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So who will be getting an Asus EEE instead of a Macbook Air?
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Its called earth in case you don't know.
And without a piece of *** which is called Linux, Im afraid your little OSX won't be that great neither.
Its really necessary to know something in depth about your system, since you obviously love it a lot.
I would be much more likely to get an Eee PC than a MacBook Air simply because of price. I'm planning on buying a standard MacBook in February, but I still might also buy an Eee on impulse.
Um... what?
The Asus Eee PC runs Linux.
Um... what?
The Asus Eee PC runs Linux.
On that same note without Unix, Linux wouldn't be that great either. Without Unix OSX wouldn't be that great. OSX isn't written on Linux, it's more Unix based.
How about YOU know something in depth about YOUR system.
my system? which one are you referring to? vista? osx? ubuntu? mandriva? xandros?
try remove all the apps, libraries developed under linux, see what do you have left with OSX. forget handbrake, isquint, perian, vlc, gimp, neooffice, forget cups, for example...
I know my system in depth? huh, yes, I always try to learn more. indeed.
£218.00, can't go wrong at that price! I love mine except for the keyboard which is a little small and cheap feeling. Running in full desktop mode it's all I need and it works. Can't get Bluetooth to function though which is a shame.
MBA is a joke, who cares if it's thin, it's footprint is far too big.
MBA is a joke, who cares if it's thin, it's footprint is far too big.
FUD.
A lot of people care more for weight than footprint. A lot of people care more for footprint for weight. It's a joke to claim the latter is much larger than the former.
On an low end (as in "cheap"), moving, 6-bit LCD, you're going to go with "it's not glossy" as your reason for choosing it? The eee is not suitable for photo work, period. That remark is nothing short of pure insanity.
It's fine. People charged with a little knowledge take the issue to extremes (particularly on this forum).
A glossy display is more than just shiny--it involves a number of technologies and processes which enhance the richness of colors as well as the brightness and contrast of the panels. As a result, out of the box, it usually provides less accurate (as in true-to-life) colors than a matte panel. They also have a limit (for professional models that put Cinema Display prices to shame) beyond which the glossy units cannot match professional-grade matte units.
None of this applies in the consumer market. A quality glossy display is better than a mediocre matte display. Users who wish to see more "natural" color can calibrate their displays to do exactly that with their glossy panels. Keep in mind that all notebook displays, with a few exceptions in the 17" range, have a 6-bit panel. This, and other realities of notebook computing, means that glossy vs. matte is just about the least significant accuracy concern imaginable--neither comes close to desktop LCDs. No one does any serious graphic work on anything less than 8-bits, and 10-bits is quite common.
Quite right. A 13" notebook will fit in every briefcase or travel bag I have ever seen. 15" notebooks, however, sometimes do not. Thickness and weight are the key concerns--people who can't deal with a 13" notebook's footprint are an extreme minority of ultraportable users, themselves already a minority.
I would like you to add a "I think" before that statement, of course, if you can show me some survey results.
Looking around, which ultraportable is larger than 12.1"? and where did you draw the statement you made? imagination?
The question is, "which ultraportable is more than 12" wide?" The answer includes a couple Lenovo models, the Dell XPS 1330, HP tx1205, the Fujitsu Lifebook S6510 and Q2010, Acer Ferrari 1000 series, and the Asus W5F, to name a few.
Not a single one of these, including the MBA, breaks 13" in width. Even those with smaller displays round out about 11-12" wide typically. They are all approximately the same depth (8.5-9.5 inches). Is there some environment in which a slight saving in width would become absolutely essential (i.e. where an 11.5", but not a 12.5", would work)? Is there some reason you have to believe that people would rather have a thicker machine to save a little bit on width?
A machine less than 13" wide that fits in any bag, briefcase, or carry-all pretty much fits the bill all around. Once you get below that, thickness and weight are the priorities--the goal is to take up as little space as possible, and thinner does it. Less width doesn't--you can't put something next to a computer in the same bag slot (excepting UMPCs), so making a machine narrower instead of thinner is a waste of time beyond a certain point.
Even if you're looking at the UMPC subset, with displays below 10" or so, you're also not likely to compete on width--machines will be approximately 9.5" wide or less, largely as a function of screen size.
It's the less likely outcome, that people choose ultraportables based on width before considering weight and thickness, that is in need of evidentiary support.
Can you really compare the MacBook Air to the Asus EEE PC though? Their two different things. If you're looking for more power, the MacBook Air is a clear winner between the two. If you're looking for portability, the EEE PC is the winner.
Personally, I'm going to stick with my MacBook. It's small enough to fit my needs as far as portability goes and powerful enough to be my main machine.
Personally, I'm going to stick with my MacBook. It's small enough to fit my needs as far as portability goes and powerful enough to be my main machine.
huh, exactly which of these are regarded as "ultraportable" with >12.1" screen?
PS. XPS 1330 was not regarded as ultraportable by any credible source, while xps 1210 is, which is 12.1" screen, Acer Ferrari 1000 is 12.1", so is Fujitsu Lifebook
what are you trying to say here? do you realize the footprint of MBA is larger than the one you just listed?
Also, there is no need to play trick and change subject, MBA is 13.3" screen, not 13.3" wide, and we are not talking about width here, everybody knows it.
huh, you ask me? now tell me first, exactly why do you believe "extremely small" fraction of ultraportable users care more about footprint than weight?
again? why? did you do some credible survey to show "most" ppl choose ultraportable based on weight rather than size?
statement need support of evidence, not what you think, you can think less weight is better than smaller size, I think otherwise. whats the point?
You just made that bold statement with no data support? extremely small fraction? please, discussion need to be honest.
Oh, My God, I forget to mention EEE is 2lbs! MBA is 3lbs! anything else?
If people are so concerned about weight then there are the Vaio TZ series. Basically the same thing as the MBA except half a pound lighter and comes with everything youd expect from a real laptop (like more than one USB and an optical drive). It also has an 11" screen with a higher resolution than the MBA, so the footprint is smaller yet theres still more pixels. It also looks a hell of a lot better.
The EEE PC's screen resolution is a deal breaker for me. 1024x768 is as low a resolution as I can tolerate.
For portability, nothing beats my Thinkpad X60s (IMHO).
For portability, nothing beats my Thinkpad X60s (IMHO).
What is with all the arguing in here?
The EEEPC and the MBA aren't comparable. The MBA blows it away spec-wise, and thus blows it away price-wise. Look at the computers the MBA competes with, IT IS COMPETITIVELY PRICED. The Asus is going after a different type of consumer, someone who wants to sacrifice a LOT of power for a cheaper price. I'm not knocking it, but just get it straight guys....
The EEEPC and the MBA aren't comparable. The MBA blows it away spec-wise, and thus blows it away price-wise. Look at the computers the MBA competes with, IT IS COMPETITIVELY PRICED. The Asus is going after a different type of consumer, someone who wants to sacrifice a LOT of power for a cheaper price. I'm not knocking it, but just get it straight guys....
how much grunt does eeeeee have?
does anyone here have one?
i'd like to know how practical an Eeee (or whatever) would be for me - i'd need to be able to scroll smoothly through large (1000 page) pdf documents and add annotation to them... i'm a student and my lecture notes/textbooks are pdfs.
does anyone here have one?
i'd like to know how practical an Eeee (or whatever
) would be for me - i'd need to be able to scroll smoothly through large (1000 page) pdf documents and add annotation to them... i'm a student and my lecture notes/textbooks are pdfs.
does anyone here have one?
i'd like to know how practical an Eeee (or whatever
never tied 1000 pages stuff, all i have is 45 pages papers I did, scroll fine.
its more about 1. how large the file is, 2. how much pics in the page, acrobat reader doesn't render the whole document all at once, it does it page by page.
I went from a desktop PC to a powerbook 15''. A couple of months ago I got a macbook which is now my main workhorse.
(the powerbook is retired (broken-ish screen) and sits under the sofa serving files.)
My 2.2 ghz c2d MB is still the fastest macbook out, and runs rings around the PB. (there are still a couple of things I miss about the PB)
I would still like something even lighter and smaller that I can throw in a bag and pull out on the bus and not worry too much about it being stolen. It would be mainly for surfing and writing email.
The MBA is unrealistic for me. Hence the eeee seems like a possible option. If a future version had a screen I could turn around and use as an ebook reader, (like the OLPC) that would be even better.
I also have my eye on getting the OLPC later this year if you hadn't noticed. My main concern is synchronising email between the eee / olpc and my main macbook.
Gmail is one way, but it's too dependent on having network access which isn't always guaranteed when you're out and about, or down the tube.
(the powerbook is retired (broken-ish screen) and sits under the sofa serving files.)
My 2.2 ghz c2d MB is still the fastest macbook out, and runs rings around the PB. (there are still a couple of things I miss about the PB)
I would still like something even lighter and smaller that I can throw in a bag and pull out on the bus and not worry too much about it being stolen. It would be mainly for surfing and writing email.
The MBA is unrealistic for me. Hence the eeee seems like a possible option. If a future version had a screen I could turn around and use as an ebook reader, (like the OLPC) that would be even better.
I also have my eye on getting the OLPC later this year if you hadn't noticed. My main concern is synchronising email between the eee / olpc and my main macbook.
Gmail is one way, but it's too dependent on having network access which isn't always guaranteed when you're out and about, or down the tube.
most attractive thing about OX is its super long battery and manual charger....
Thunderbird is cross-platform, hence is the best way to sync the emails across different computers w/o internet access...I think...
Looks like someone did their research
The EEE runs Linux. If your principles prevent you from owning anything that RUNS Windows, then I hope you don't own or ever plan on owning an Intel Mac