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So why does Apple charge so much for OS X updates?

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MeatRocket said:
So, in short, I have absolutely no problem paying for major OS updates, especially at the rates they're charging. If you want to see expensive, just look into what upgrading a Cisco device from one version to the next minor version costs (say IOS 12.3.55 E3 to 12.3.55 E5). Once you pick your jaw up off the floor, head back over to the App Store & happily pay the paltry $20 for the latest OS X. :D
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I am confident you are already aware that enterprise products and support are quite different beasts from consumer products. Apple has been smart enough to target the more vulnerable and influenced consumer market. I can't imagine apple trying to charge thousand of dollars enterprise customers just for a design of a slim unibody rack server signed by Jon Ive... :D
 
aristobrat said:
It's odd to me to hear someone who brought up the law of attraction in a post a few days ago consistently speak from the vantage point of 'shortage' in this thread.
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You are mixing up things. According to you, applying the WYTIWYG pattern means I must agree with whatever dictates a corporation?
 
surjavarman said:
I already paid a premium when I bought hardware from Apple. I expect this premium to include any future software updates for as long as this machine is being used. For me that is about 5 years. I think its wrong to force people to buy a lifetime subscription of $30/year just to get any future performance improvements and security updates.

I can basically get all the new features now with 3rd party apps and I find OS X bloated and too iOS-ified since SL. I don't want to pay for that just to have Apple support my hardware which I have just owned for 1 year or that has about 80% of its life left.

Most linux distributions are free and offer more cutting edge technology. I didn't even pay a premium for it.
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You are seriously confusing "UPGRADES" with "UPDATES". Apple gives free updates for years to come when you buy a Mac. Security updates, Firmwares and the like. You paid for a computer that came with an OS that works best with that hardware and the software of that generation. You're entitled to having a working system. If you're expecting them to give you new features in those free "UPDATES" then you've got to be kidding. :rolleyes:
 
surjavarman said:
I already paid a premium when I bought hardware from Apple. I expect this premium to include any future software updates for as long as this machine is being used. For me that is about 5 years. I think its wrong to force people to buy a lifetime subscription of $30/year just to get any future performance improvements and security updates.

I can basically get all the new features now with 3rd party apps and I find OS X bloated and too iOS-ified since SL. I don't want to pay for that just to have Apple support my hardware which I have just owned for 1 year or that has about 80% of its life left.

Most linux distributions are free and offer more cutting edge technology. I didn't even pay a premium for it.
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That's your fault for expecting as such. You do get free software updates, just don't expect any free upgrades.

Unless you sign a contract with Apple to provide you with free *life of hardware* software upgrades, you are not entitled anything, period.

You bought a premium for the hardware and the software it came with, the software already has a decade of development+improvements behind it. You will get free updates.

You do not buy hardware for its future, you buy it for the present stuff on the hardware. If you want the future stuff, you have to wait and then buy the hardware with that future OS.

How about thinking about this in a different way. Apple did not include the OS prices in the premium cost and let you do this optionally by buying the OS upgrades. Shocking concept, I know!
 
sofianito said:
Windows & Linux operating systems suck. I personally buy apple hardware because of OS X. It is much more stable, powerful, integrated, and improves my productivity. I don't have or can't waste time trying to hackintosh, but if apple made OS X available for other platforms and hardware such as does Windows, then I wouldn't buy anymore apple hardware (too expensive), and I wouldn't mind to pay more than $100 for every OS X release...

OS X upgrades should be free for the premium price you are paying for apple hardware...
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Nearly everything about your post screams "ignorance".
 
surjavarman said:
I already paid a premium when I bought hardware from Apple. I expect this premium to include any future software updates for as long as this machine is being used. For me that is about 5 years.
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I expect fairies to wash the dishes and do my laundry. Sadly, neither of our expectations is realistic.
 
sofianito said:
Windows & Linux operating systems suck. I personally buy apple hardware because of OS X. It is much more stable, powerful, integrated, and improves my productivity. I don't have or can't waste time trying to hackintosh, but if apple made OS X available for other platforms and hardware such as does Windows, then I wouldn't buy anymore apple hardware (too expensive), and I wouldn't mind to pay more than $100 for every OS X release...

OS X upgrades should be free for the premium price you are paying for apple hardware...
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You really should take the time and learn about operating systems before posting such nonsense. You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about, period.
What you said about Linux, good grief. :rolleyes:, and it's obvious you don't understand that OS X is optimized to run on the Mac hardware. It's not just about a hard drive and ram so running it on any system won't give you the same experience as using a Mac. There's firmware involved and the like.

And everything else you said, gimme a break. :rolleyes:
 
What I don't get is people using the word 'premium' here.

Apple products cost what they cost, you pay for the specs of the machine and the OS specified on the box, unless you're buying within an 'up-to-date' period. If you don't want to pay that, or only pay that expecting more in the future, then its your problem and no-one else's.

A premium would be the cost of the laptop, plus an extra 'safeguard' fee to keep that OS up to date - and no, Applecare is not part of that, thats a hardware 'premium'.

Personally, the fact that I can buy an OS upgrade for my mac, and then use that to upgrade my wife's, and my dad's macs is outstanding for a price as low as £15.
 
sofianito said:
Good try, but the first letter is e, not i.

I meant your contribution to this thread is short as a tweet, but sadly it screamed "emptiness" :) ;)
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Ignorance.... ;) :)

The cost of OS X isn't expensive at all, it's only €20 compared to €120 for the Windows 8 Standard Edition Update.
 
sparkyms said:
What I don't get is people using the word 'premium' here.

Apple products cost what they cost, you pay for the specs of the machine and the OS specified on the box, unless you're buying within an 'up-to-date' period. If you don't want to pay that, or only pay that expecting more in the future, then its your problem and no-one else's.

A premium would be the cost of the laptop, plus an extra 'safeguard' fee to keep that OS up to date - and no, Applecare is not part of that, thats a hardware 'premium'.

Personally, the fact that I can buy an OS upgrade for my mac, and then use that to upgrade my wife's, and my dad's macs is outstanding for a price as low as £15.
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If you sum the price of all your family's macs, then paying $20-$30 for an upgrade sounds like your loyality is not rewarded...

People purchase systematically AppleCare whenever they buy a new computer, especially if it is a retina model. Chances are you would never have to use it because Apple has already calculated the risks and estimated you probably would not need it during the first 3 years. What happens with those loyal customers? Simply put, no bonus at all...

If you ever contracted a car insurance, and did not have any accident the first year, then you know you get bonified and will pay less next year... This is a fair model, but AppleCare don't care...
 
HenryDJP said:
You really should take the time and learn about operating systems before posting such nonsense. You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about, period.
What you said about Linux, good grief. :rolleyes:, and it's obvious you don't understand that OS X is optimized to run on the Mac hardware. It's not just about a hard drive and ram so running it on any system won't give you the same experience as using a Mac. There's firmware involved and the like.

And everything else you said, gimme a break. :rolleyes:
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When I said Linux sucks, it was about the bad UI and user experience provided by the current desktop managers: Gnome, KDE,...etc.

Let me ask you some questions. Does apple build their computers using:
Intel processors and chipsets?
Intel iGPU?
Nvidia or AMD dGPU?
Intel gigabit ethernet?
Broadcom or atheros WIFI?
The Mobo has a different form factor nothing more nothing less.

What firmware you are talking about? The UEFI firmware? Again, UEFi is a standard.

Don't you know Mac OS X run on some PCs that have similar specs?

HenryDJP said:
so running it on any system won't give you the same experience as using a Mac. There's firmware involved and the like.
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As you seam a knowledgeable person, I am eager to read your details regarding the different experience, firmware, and the like?
 
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Really people are comparing an ios upgrade to mac os. You've got to be joking. And it's just 20 bucks for the love of. Also, nobody is forcing you to buy it. Why is microsoft allowed to charge 120 bucks on their os?
 
HenryDJP said:
What you said about Linux, good grief. :rolleyes:, and it's obvious you don't understand that OS X is optimized to run on the Mac hardware. It's not just about a hard drive and ram so running it on any system won't give you the same experience as using a Mac. There's firmware involved and the like.

And everything else you said, gimme a break. :rolleyes:
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LOL, it's funny that you try to reprimand someone when you don't have a clue about what you are talking about yourself.
 
It would be nice to get free OS updates but it has never worked that way as far as I can remember.

I bought an Alienware before they got bought out by Dell, '03, that was a premium system around $2,500 and I didn't get a free Windows upgrade.

Or the $1,900 HP system I got in 2000, I had to buy Win XP 3 months later.:roll eyes:

Either way, if someone frequents this website then they should be on top of when a new OS X is coming out and be able to plan for that if you need to.

A new OS update for a year costs as much as 3-4 cheeseburgers,
speaking of ..McDonalds has a new 1/4lb burger out but I just bought the older version last week, where's my free upgrade.
 
mmomega said:
It would be nice to get free OS updates but it has never worked that way as far as I can remember.

I bought an Alienware before they got bought out by Dell, '03, that was a premium system around $2,500 and I didn't get a free Windows upgrade.

Or the $1,900 HP system I got in 2000, I had to buy Win XP 3 months later.:roll eyes:

Either way, if someone frequents this website then they should be on top of when a new OS X is coming out and be able to plan for that if you need to.

A new OS update for a year costs as much as 3-4 cheeseburgers,
speaking of ..McDonalds has a new 1/4lb burger out but I just bought the older version last week, where's my free upgrade.
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Why Apple doesn't invite its loyal customers to have 3-4 cheeseburgers a year? :) Won't you feel special?
 
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