Software for uncompressed DVD trans

True Tao

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I know there is a lot of software out there that can convert m2ts, video ts folders but what could I use to rip a DVD in a uncompressed format? Could I just open a DVD on my mac and copy the video ts folder to a location? Thanks, appreciate it
 

rhett7660

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Just so I understand, you want to rip a DVD in it's native format or in another format that preserves the size and is uncompressed correct? Are you looking to play it on any specific device? Are you looking for any specific format?
 

True Tao

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Yes native uncompressed .....I guess essentially a one for one copy to have as a back up of DVDs to which I can convert at a later time to whatever format I decide. I guess I'm not Into having one universal rip for all my devices. Thanks
 

ncc1701d

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If I may bump this question. I want to store the video file on my macmini for front row to access uncompressed.

I have been using Handbrake, but still getting some pixilation / distortion / bleeding. According to the search I did on Handbrake's site: "If you're not concerned about how big your output is, don't mess around trying to guess the best bitrate or file size. Just set a high constant quality, in the 60%-70% range." but, I'm not sure under what "preset" I should choose.

I read another option was to just copy the vob file directly... I'll give that a try and see if it works.

Otherwise I will also try MTR, which is something I've had sitting in my apps for a long time, but never used.
 

handsome pete

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Yes native uncompressed .....I guess essentially a one for one copy to have as a back up of DVDs to which I can convert at a later time to whatever format I decide. I guess I'm not Into having one universal rip for all my devices. Thanks
Are you sure you're looking for uncompressed?

Uncompressed SD video averages about 1gig per minute.
 

spinnerlys

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Yes native uncompressed .....I guess essentially a one for one copy to have as a back up of DVDs to which I can convert at a later time to whatever format I decide. I guess I'm not Into having one universal rip for all my devices. Thanks
Are you sure you're looking for uncompressed?

Uncompressed SD video averages about 1gig per minute.
I think the OP meant to involve no further compression, as video DVDs are already highly compressed (MPEG-2), thus any transcoding will mean some kind of quality loss. I doubt though, the OP meant transcoding it to uncompressed SD, as that takes up 22MB/s (PAL, Avid Media Composer, 1:1 MXF Digital Betacam SD footage).

The OP can use a variety of ripping software.




1. How to copy (rip) the content of video DVDs to your HDD
2. How to transcode the MPEG-2 encoded video DVD material for use on your computer after you ripped the video DVD.
3. How to transcode the MPEG-2 encoded video DVD material for use on your computer without ripping the video DVD.


1. How to copy (rip) the content of video DVDs to your HDD

As commercial video DVDs use a copy protection scheme called CSS (Content Scramble System), additional software is needed to copy the content of a video DVD to your HDD, which is called "ripping". There are several applications to accomplish this.No quality loss is involved, as ripping is a 1:1 copy.​

1.1. MacTheRipper 2.6.6 (free)
Insert the video DVD into your DVD drive and open MacTheRipper and click the GO button, after which you can select the place you want the video DVD's content saved to.
As this version of MTR is quite old, it will not read many modern DVDs.

1.2. RipIt (19.95 USD, trial with 10 rips free)
Insert the video DVD and press the RIP button.

1.3. Fairmount (free) - needs VLC 32-bit to decrypt the CSS (thanks to Satori for that information)

1.4. Mac DVDRipper Pro (9.95 USD)
Insert the video DVD and select a destination folder, then press the RIP button.


2. How to transcode the MPEG-2 encoded video DVD material for use on your computer after you ripped the video DVD.

As video DVDs take up a lot of space (up to 8GB), one can transcode (changing the format and encoding) the MPEG-2 encoded video into MPEG-4 encoded video via Handbrake, which might only take 1GB of HDD capacity away, while still looking good.

Handbrake currently offers to read VIDEO_TS folders, the folder on the video DVD with all the material (menus, video and audio) inside, and transcode the footage to something smaller. Currently variants of the space efficient and highly qualitative MPEG-4 codec are used, H264 or Xvid for example.
The current version of Handbrake offers two container formats, .mkv and .mp4, older versions also had the .avi container to transcode to.
.mkv and .mp4 containers accept the H264 codec, also used for the QuickTime trailers on Apple's Trailer page.
Handbrake also offers PRESETS for you to choose from. There are for the AppleTV, iPhone and iPod Touch, iPod and some more.

For more information about properly using Handbrake, either go to the Handbrake Community, read the Handbrake Guide or use MRoogle to find dozens upon dozens of threads about this.​


3. How to transcode the MPEG-2 encoded video DVD material for use on your computer without ripping the video DVD.

If you don't want to rip the video DVDs first, and just use Handbrake for transcoding the video, make sure to install VLC Player to circumvent the CSS I mentioned earlier.
Make sure you have the 64-bit version of both applications installed, or the 32-bit versions. Both applications will not work together, if one is 32-bit and one is 64-bit.

VLC Player 64-bit (VLC 1.1.0) - VLC Player 32-bit (1.0.5 and lower)
Handbrake 64-bit Intel, 32-bit Intel and 32-bit PPC on this page, so choose the right one

from How to backup/copy/rip video DVDs to your HDD and transcode them to another format.


Also of interest: How-To: Automating DVD & Blu-Ray (Backup, Encoding & Tagging) for Mac OS X 10.6
 

ncc1701d

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For what it's worth, I've decided to stick with Handbrake, Preset "High Profile". Deinterlace On, Deinterlace - Fast and have bumped the constant quality up to 70%. Large File Size selected.

(And that's for storage on a drobo pro, connected to a mac mini which then uses Front Row to watch on 48" LCD)
 

ncc1701d

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Well, I officially give up. I just tried the above setting on a previously ripped Blue Ray Iron Man DVD. It was a lower size and I could see a very slight difference in quality.

my settings seemed to be better for a standard DVD, but not as good for the Blue ray. :confused: :eek:
 

totoum

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Well I don't know who told you 70% , true lossless is 100%,but a word of caution (from the handbrake faq)


So I was encoding with 100% quality using x264 and…

Okay listen. 100% quality? You're going to end up with a video that's way larger than the source. It's sorta misleading, but we haven't figured out a better way of presenting it. Here's the deal: 100% quality isn't "the same thing as the DVD" or anything like that. For x264, it means lossless mode. Sounds good, huh? Not exactly. DVDs already use lossy compression. x264 can't eat compressed video. It needs raw, decoded video, which takes up a lot of space. In comparison to that, 100% quality, lossless x264 takes up little space. But in comparison to the lossy compressed source on the DVD, it will still be quite chunky -- and it won't look any better than the source, either. Only use it if you know what you're doing.
So yeah,i think you'd be better off using MTR.

Also,is your blu-ray interlaced?Because if it isn't deinterlacing will just degrade video quality.
 

ncc1701d

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Well I don't know who told you 70% , true lossless is 100%,but a word of caution (from the handbrake faq)




So yeah,i think you'd be better off using MTR.

Also,is your blu-ray interlaced?Because if it isn't deinterlacing will just degrade video quality.
Of all the research and going through threads on the handbrake forum, most say 60-70%. Anything over that seems to be a significant increase in file size for negligible quality improvements. But I will give 100% a go.

I got MTR, but I mustn't be using it properly. My end result is significantly worse off. I'll do a search for some MTR user guides and have another go at that. Cheers!
 
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