software update expected to be released on 5 July?

Discussion in 'Jailbreaks and iOS Hacks' started by The new member, Jul 4, 2007.

  1. The new member macrumors member

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    Found this...


    http://www.macworld.co.uk/ipod-itunes/news/index.cfm?newsid=18450

     
  2. scotty1024 macrumors newbie

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    Just thieves hurting Apple

    Anyone using or creating this software is very likely violating the DMCA and the EULA of the iPhone. The iPhone contains at least 700MB of software that is shutdown and unusable until you properly activate it.

    Substitute the legal word "license" for the cellphone term "activate" and I think you will begin to see the issue.

    On a moral level this isn't your previous cellphone. The carriers gave you a small break on the price of the phone and then sucked your blood for years, often never allowing the phone to be unlocked. They would never upgrade the firmware of your phone (even if you begged), you never got improvements/fixes unless you bought a new phone. A bad bad bad deal and one of the major reasons I was standing patiently in line to get an iPhone.

    Apple gets part of the data plan money. This money will be used to fund further improvements to the iPhone you bought. I'm tickled pink to give Apple $5 (or whatever they carved out of the greedy clutches of AT&T) per month for them to keep improving my iPhone with new capabilities.

    If you want a 6G iPod: its coming. It will cost less than an iPhone, it will weigh less and it will have better battery life (no GSM radio). So why spend double, violate the EULA/DMCA and hurt Apple when you can just wait a few more months?

    One last point: why is Apple taking the unusual, for them, move of not claiming profits on the iPhone in the quarter of the sales of the units?

    Because Apple still hasn't made a profit on the iPhone. Even if Apple sells one million of them this week they won't have turned a profit. They've spent over two years with hundreds of people porting Mac OS X to the ARM CPU as well as developing the hardware itself. They've poured hundreds of millions of dollars into creating this device, and will continue to pour in even more. As iPhone haters keep pointing out: features are missing. Those features will require more $$$ to get them implemented.

    Even worse in my opinion, these criminals writing this software to take money away from Apple will divert some of the resources that could be spent implementing iChat (or whatever your shiny shiny missing feature is) and they'll be spending them shutting down these thieves.

    If you are tired of the tyranny that has been Motorola, Nokia and Sony then now is the time to stand up and tell these criminals: NO! And I hope MacRumors gets a DMCA take down notice or ten for linking to this material.
     
  3. mkrishnan Moderator emeritus

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    Software that is used for unlocking phones is an exempted category under the DMCA.
     
  4. pdpfilms macrumors 68020

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    Scotty-
    I too appreciate Apple's efforts to thwart those of other corporations. But one of the huuuge reasons for these hacks is to enable Apple fans who don't have access to AT&T use of the iphone. I am one of these people. I cannot get an AT&T plan in my area, but want so badly to get rid of my crappy RAZR. Thus, I am hoping that these guys succeed in hacking the activation.

    Sure, I may not be paying $5 to Apple each month I use the iPhone. But my intentions are not to cheat them- I intend on using my phone and praising Apple for it. At the very least Apple will have sold one more unit because of it, and AT&T will have one less customer. More likely is that Apple will have sold one more unit and gained a whole lot of "I want one!"s in Montana. Point out for me, if you will, where harm is being done here.
     
  5. dashiel macrumors 6502a

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    have you read the EULA on most products? it's nigh impossible not to be violating the restrictive and probably illegal terms that you "agree to". fast forwarding through the FBI warning at the beginning of a DVD is technically violating the DMCA.

    if companies, i don't care whether it's apple or microsoft, insist on treating people like a criminals then don't be shocked when people start becoming criminals.

    there is nothing moral about a cell phone. period. the only economic difference between the ipod and a razr, is that apple insists on charging full price. at&t is still charging the exact same monthly fees.


    apple would be improving the iphone regardless of any monthly income. os x receives improvements all the time, no monthly fee. ditto :apple:tv and ipod.




    apple is amortizing the revenue from the iphone over 24 months in order to add additional features down the road without violating sorbanes-oxley avoiding the $5 802.11n style costs -- though many may dispute the actual necessity of this, apple believe it needs to.

    apple spends about $500 million dollars a year on R&D. i have no doubt apple spent a lot, but "hundreds of millions" on the iphone alone? doubtful.


    apple hasn't shut down any of the :apple:tv projects, and because of them we have larger hard drives, more codec support, youtube support, rss features, games, etc... in fact far from shutting these projects down -- apple actually responded with an upgraded :apple:tv that supported youtube and larger hard drives

    how ironic that you throw around the accusation of "criminal" and then fall back on the DMCA, which is nothing more than a government funded and enforced gestapo tactic to maintain the "criminal" strangle hold corporations have over the little guy. the DMCA is right behind the patriot act in terms of disgusting legislation.

    fwiw, motoroal, nokia, sony, et al. are far from the "bad guys" in the US cell phone market. it's the carriers who dictate phone features and capabilities. just look at europe and asian versions of their phones -- light years more advanced than the american models.

    bottom line: without hackers like these verizon customers wouldn't have bluetooth access to their phones, appleTV users would be stuck with quicktime/h.264 as their only codec. DVD owners wouldn't be able to back up their legally purchased content, or store them on their hard drives.
     
  6. sunnywala macrumors newbie

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