Solar Face Inaccurate

Discussion in 'Apple Watch' started by nkk82oc, May 28, 2015.

  1. nkk82oc macrumors newbie

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    Anyone else experiencing inaccurate sun location on the solar face? This has happened twice now, where the sun shows as setting or nearly set when in fact there are still hours still left of daylight. I attached a picture from yesterday when it showed the sun set, yet it was actually still 2 hours from sunset with the sun still high in the sky.

    When I had the issue before I reset all settings on the watch and it corrected, but it's happening again a few days later. It's my favorite watch face, sort of sucks that it is not accurate.
     

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  2. JohnApples macrumors 65816

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    I wonder if this has any relation to the Sunrise/Sunset complication also not displaying the correct times? While I haven't had your problem yet (or haven't noticed it), my sunset complication frequently displays an incorrect time, or no time at all.

    Nothing I've tried seems to correct it, sometimes even resetting the watch doesn't work. It corrects itself seemingly randomly. Some have suggested loading up and refreshing the Weather app on your watch, since that's where it gets it's sunset data from. I haven't tried it yet, but maybe you can give it a shot?
     
  3. nkk82oc thread starter macrumors newbie

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    My watch is still having the issue, and just checked the sunrise/sunset complication and it is lined out - not showing any times at all. Weird bug, it seems like this would be something pretty easy to get right.
     
  4. JohnApples macrumors 65816

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    Yeah, it get's pretty frustrating, and a pretty major bug considering that's what the Solar face depends on. Curious, did you notice this bug before or after the 1.0.1 update?
     
  5. nkk82oc thread starter macrumors newbie

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    Only started to occur AFTER the 1.01 update. Never had the issue before.
     
  6. JohnApples macrumors 65816

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    Interesting, me too. I haven't seen anyone else complain about this on here yet though. I'll have to submit a bug report so we can hopefully get a quick fix along with the heart-rate tracking bug.
     
  7. Night Spring macrumors G5

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    Oh, believe me, nothing about programming is easy to get right, but plenty easy for things to go wrong!

    As for the solar face bug, I haven't experienced it myself, and I have my watch on the solar face all the time. Do you know if your watch is getting the correct location information?
     
  8. nkk82oc thread starter macrumors newbie

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    Location information is correct as far as I can tell, the only settings that are location specific would be weather - which I have to set based on my current location. The solar sun location seems to be set at central time, as it seems to consistently be 2 hours ahead of me and I am in Pacific.
     
  9. Night Spring macrumors G5

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    That seems weird. I am in Eastern time, and my solar sun location seems to be on Eastern time also. I can often see the sun setting, then glance at my watch to confirm that it is also showing the sun setting. The beauty of the solar face is that it shows the sun position where you are. Otherwise what's the point? That said, I have no idea what is causing your issue. It does sound like a very weird bug!
     
  10. AtheistP3ace macrumors 6502a

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    I have not experienced inaccurate display but I used this face the other day and by end of day my battery was almost dead vs the color or motion face I usually use which leaves me with plenty of extra battery life.
     
  11. CellXor10 macrumors regular

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    Hmmm, do you have Location Services for the Weather App set to "Always"? I really don't know if that would do anything to help fix your problem (and almost doubt it will) but just trying to think of any potential reasons you may be running into this issue/bug.
     
  12. macduke macrumors 604

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    It shouldn't have to get data from anywhere aside from the current time and location. It's just math. That could all be programmed into the Apple Watch. This page explains the formula, and you can even account for atmospheric refraction: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunrise_equation

    Sometimes it's just best to do things the gold ol' fashioned way instead of relying on some API.
     
  13. vladzaharia macrumors regular

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    Why do all that processing when the weather app has the data already processed for you by a server? That way, you also don't have to deal with all the complications of time zones, leap years, and all that other ******** that comes with dealing with time.
     
  14. macduke macrumors 604

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    Because the math is quite simple and because we have problems like the OP mentioned.

    The Apple Watch would use far my processing power just showing the solar face for a second than making that calculation. It uses more processing power on your arm while it measures your activity. It uses more processing power at rest receiving data from your iPhone. The Apple Watch is essentially an iPhone 4S inside and my 4S had no problem recording 1080p video or playing 3D games.

    You don't have to do any time calculations at all because your iPhone is synced to the atomic clock any time it connects to any cellular network. I believe cellular networks use UTC and the iPhone makes the local adjustment for display. I _THINK_ developers can access UTC time.
     
  15. jclardy macrumors 68040

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    I'm pretty sure they are related, whenever the sunset complication is stuck then the solar watchface is screwed up as well. Just checked mine and it is not loading and the solar face is wrong.
     
  16. JohnApples macrumors 65816

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    I agree, it shouldn't have to, and I don't know why they went the route they did, especially since it's clearly inadequate for just displaying the sunset/sunrise time. There doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason to it either, as this happens even when I'm connected to WiFi.

    Even if it does pull the sunset/sunrise data from the app instead of calculating it on it's own, it should only need to do that once per day. Why it can display the correct sunset time at noon, but 5 hours later it displays the incorrect time or nothing at all? Makes no sense to me.
     
  17. kdarling macrumors demi-god

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    Considering how often over the years that iOS has had time related bugs (alarms, Daylight Savings, year end rollovers, sun equations), they might want to think about having one or two people dedicated to nothing but doing QC on related sections.

    Of all things, most especially a "timepiece" should get these things right.
     
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  19. nkk82oc thread starter macrumors newbie

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    Update - Was able to fix the issue using a tip discovered on Apple's support site for a similar issue with the astrology face not showing GPS location.

    Under Settings > General > Restrictions >
    Enabled restrictions and then disabled restrictions

    Within a few minutes the watch updated with accurate sunrise/sunset times, solar face corrected, and location now shown on the astrology face.

    We will see how long this fix lasts, but sure beats doing a full restore which is what I did last time and wasn't about to do again.
     
  20. ReardenMetal macrumors regular

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    This bug has occurred twice, I think. Not sure what behavior makes it happen as I'd love to be able to reproduce it, but I've found power cycling my AW and iPhone solves it.
     
  21. Packfan99 macrumors member

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    I've seen it about 4-5 times. Then, somehow, it would fix itself later.
     
  22. ReardenMetal macrumors regular

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    Think I found a workaround. If the solar face is having trouble, try opening the maps app on the watch and make sure it locks onto your current location. After that, try going back to the solar face. Worked for me.
    Still, shouldn't have to do that.
     

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