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Why don't you give us your last four and zip code then if you're so confident?

4235 & 42044 good luck.

TMar, please don’t encourage people to do things like this. Just because you have no idea how to exploit the use of these numbers does not mean it can not be done. This is even truer if the buyer already has his full name, phone number, and address.

NEVER DO WHAT TMar did, it is reckless at a minimum, stupidity at its greatest.

In the USA many accounts (from banks to cable companies) use your last four digits of your social security number and billing zip code as security measures. True it will take more effort to exploit someone with these numbers but not impossible.

Back on topic, if the seller was honest in his description of the auction, he is in no way responsible for mistakes of the buyer. The fact it is now a PayPal dispute I would ask the buyer to return the item and refund the money minus shipping. Next time the buyer should educate himself before making purchases like an iPhone.
 
This won't work either. The phone is locked to the buyers AT&T account. No AT&T sim of any kind by itself will unlock the phone.

If this is true then the seller made an honest mistake (that is nonetheless his responsibility) and has to refund the purchase, pay return shipping and deal with the fact that his product is unsealed. Caveat venditor.
 
If this is true then the seller made an honest mistake (that is nonetheless his responsibility) and has to refund the purchase, pay return shipping and deal with the fact that his product is unsealed. Caveat venditor.

No, it's the buyers responsibility to make sure he is choosing the "correct" product.

In this case the seller sold exactly what he described, an unopened iPhone; as proof by the buyer. Furthermore the phone worked within the manufactures perimeters. But those perimeters locked out the buyer. Too bad so sad but that's the buyers responsibility to make sure it would work.

It's akin to someone buying the iPhone then wanting it returned because it doesn't make toast, sorry but it's YOUR job to choose the "correct" product.
 
No, it's the buyers responsibility to make sure he is choosing the "correct" product.

In this case the seller sold exactly what he described, an unopened iPhone; as proof by the buyer. Furthermore the phone worked within the manufactures perimeters. But those perimeters locked out the buyer. Too bad so sad but that's the buyers responsibility to make sure it would work.

It's akin to someone buying the iPhone then wanting it returned because it doesn't make toast, sorry but it's YOUR job to choose the "correct" product.

The unfortunate part of this entire statement is that this is not how eBay and Paypal work anymore. If a dispute is filed against a seller, for whatever reason imaginable, it's guilty til you can prove you (as the seller) are innocent. The dispute process is also painful and long, almost to the point of making either party 'just give up'.

It could almost be called a 'seller beware' situation on eBay with Paypal.

The point can be argued until the cows come home, but it won't get the dispute settled in the seller's (OP's) favor.
 
400-XX-4235
401-XX-4235
402-XX-4235
403-XX-4235
404-XX-4235
405-XX-4235
406-XX-4235
407-XX-4235

Less then 1 in 800 chance.

Was just going to post this. However, I ran into this problem myself with my phone, there is no way to activate with the SSN and zip. Unless u have him ship u back the phone to activate it and then ship back you will have to supply him that info.
 
labman said:
^ math tells us there will be about 10 million numbers to guess the rest of your social...

It's been a while since I've been in math class, but isn't it only 100,000 numbers since they need to guess 5 out of 9 numbers, 10^5.
 
so you are saying don't bother the buyer... you do know paypal has your bank info, and you do know they can take money out of your bank. If you have no money in your bank, they do have your info to leave u bad credit and you will have problem getting any thing done in your real life.

Nope, PP can NOT take money out of your bank account. It can take money out of your paypal account which is of course NOT your bank account.
 
That is becasue the seller did not buy the phone you got at a discount thru their AT&T account. That is the difference. If the phone is not tied to the buyers AT&T account any AT&T or phonebook sim will unlock it.
At least for me, at least 3 times, this is not true. The seller paid $199 for it, I asked for and saw the receipt before I made the purchase.

I also have sold 2 iPhone 3GS's when they came out a year ago, brand new, sealed box, both purchased by ME for $199 right from the AT&T online store from MY account and sold them both on eBay, unopened and neither buyer had any issue. Never heard word 1 from them other than positive feedback.

There are thousands of sellers selling off their "$199/$299 upgrade" discounted iPhone NIB and if this were a major issue you'd think you would hear it over and over again here. As long as you have ANY AT&T SIM (old, new, expired, even found in the street) you can (unless it has changed since mid-July when I got mine) activate the iPhone in iTunes. There is some sort of strange message that initially comes up but the phone comes right up to normal menus.

I've sold 'em NIB and bought 'em NIB and none have had a problem being activated.
 
At least for me, at least 3 times, this is not true. The seller paid $199 for it, I asked for and saw the receipt before I made the purchase.

I also have sold 2 iPhone 3GS's when they came out a year ago, brand new, sealed box, both purchased by ME for $199 right from the AT&T online store from MY account and sold them both on eBay, unopened and neither buyer had any issue. Never heard word 1 from them other than positive feedback.

There are thousands of sellers selling off their "$199/$299 upgrade" discounted iPhone NIB and if this were a major issue you'd think you would hear it over and over again here. As long as you have ANY AT&T SIM (old, new, expired, even found in the street) you can (unless it has changed since mid-July when I got mine) activate the iPhone in iTunes. There is some sort of strange message that initially comes up but the phone comes right up to normal menus.

I've sold 'em NIB and bought 'em NIB and none have had a problem being activated.

All previous iPhones never required the owners SS# and zip to activate. This is all new to the iPhone 4. The iPhone 4 won't activate for the first time using any old sim like the previous iPhones did. There have been several threads about this from people buying NIB iPhone 4s over the past few months here.
 
All previous iPhones never required the owners SS# and zip to activate. This is all new to the iPhone 4. The iPhone 4 won't activate for the first time using any old sim like the previous iPhones did. There have been several threads about this from people buying NIB iPhone 4s over the past few months here.

Agreed and some blogs have been inundated with these threads. A good example is the DevTeam Blog, so it is an issue for many.
 
All previous iPhones never required the owners SS# and zip to activate. This is all new to the iPhone 4. The iPhone 4 won't activate for the first time using any old sim like the previous iPhones did. There have been several threads about this from people buying NIB iPhone 4s over the past few months here.

Agreed and some blogs have been inundated with these threads. A good example is the DevTeam Blog, so it is an issue for many.

Well, I dunno. Maybe I am a special AT&T customer. My eBay purchased NIB i4 activated with no problem with a SIM from an old dumbphone from a different and closed account that hasn't been used in probably 3 years and the i4 was purchased off eBay from someone who bought it for $199 from AT&T. I guess I am just the exception.

Now it is possible it DID ask for SSN and ZIP (can't say for sure) but if it did, I would have entered my own because I didn't have the slightest idea what the sellers info was. I remember I did get some sort of error message when activating with the "dead" SIM but whatever it was it went right past it.
 
solution

can you just get him to setup remote desktop and you log on and enter the info then hit activate? does i tunes retain the ssn after activation?


also did he try with the sim that was in the phone or did he pop his in right away?
 
So a while ago I sold something on eBay and the buyer ended up wanting a refund saying it didn't work and filed a claim with eBay AFTER he left me positive feedback. The whole thing seemed kinda fishy and seemed like he was the one who broke it(I cant be certain so I did give him the refund). But from what I have always heard on this site the buyer almost always wins. I figured once he filed a claim with eBay I would lose no matter what. If I would've not done anything what would've happened?
 
Here is an example of how this seller refuses to give SSN & zip to buyer will likely be resolved (from another forum)

Just to share some good news. Paypal has decided my case in my favor ( Full refund plus shipping.) Those of you with iPhones stuck on the ss# and zip screen have hope to get your money back. Do NOT hold these phones hoping for some hactivation solution (No one is really working on one.) You only have 45 days to start a dispute. You CAN get your money back. I did.
 
does limera1n or greenpoison bypass the ssn and zipcode screen?
i'm really confused as some say it will, some say it wont.
any ideas?
 
To me, this is definitely the seller's fault. Buyer expects a working iPhone, seller sells a non-working iPhone. Yes, the seller mentioned "AT&T locked" or whatever. But if he puts it in plain English and says "the iPhone cannot be used without my SSN, and I will not provide that to you", then no one will buy the phone. Just issue a refund and get it over with. Your iPhone 4 will still be worth alot.
 
Hi, I have a question concerning a problem similar to this except I was the buyer.
I bought a iphone 3GS (brand new still sealed in factory box) off ebay.
And when I check the serial #,
this message is provided in Apple Support:
Please activate your iPhone

We are unable to display coverage details because your iPhone has not been activated.
Please contact your iPhone retailer or wireless carrier to activate your iPhone.

I was wondering if I will have the same problem as the buyer mentioned in the original post.

I still haven't opened it yet but if I do, will I be able to use the phone for either AT&T services or T-Mobile (through jailbreak and unlocking?)
Assuming that the phone comes w/o a sim card and I have my own.

I have until November 10 to return the phone if I do have the same problem as the buyer in the original post and the phone is locked.
 
does limera1n or greenpoison bypass the ssn and zipcode screen?
i'm really confused as some say it will, some say it wont.
any ideas?

can someone confirm on this as well? I need to know by November 10th to see if I should return my factory sealed iphone 3GS.
 
can someone confirm on this as well? I need to know by November 10th to see if I should return my factory sealed iphone 3GS.

waiting about this too... i have an iPhone 4 sealed and i don't want to open it yet.
 
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