Soldered RAM? Don't care. Show me the benchmarks

Discussion in 'Mac mini' started by ZipZilla, Oct 17, 2014.

  1. ZipZilla macrumors regular

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    Can we get some benchmarks on these new Minis already? They were supposedly available yesterday. Doesn't some site want a lot of traffic?
     
  2. fa8362 macrumors 65816

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    What's the hurry? They're DEFINITELY going to suck.
     
  3. ZipZilla thread starter macrumors regular

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    I don't necessarily think so.
     
  4. cfedu macrumors 65816

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    Sorry you are wrong!!!
    they will suck hard!!!
     
  5. fa8362 macrumors 65816

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    Wishful thinking, but your hopes will soon be dashed.
     
  6. ZipZilla thread starter macrumors regular

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    I expect the $499 entry level mini to suck. But I can't imagine the $699 mid-level Mini is going to be a horrendously slow machine. Until we have benchmarks, nobody knows. It's 2 less cores, but what apps utilize those extra cores?
     
  7. fa8362 macrumors 65816

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    Many apps I use do.
     
  8. cfedu macrumors 65816

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    I think the extra cores were for people who live in northern regions. They would only work in the winter to heat up the house. I think they should have just used an single core Atom CPU.
     
  9. ZipZilla thread starter macrumors regular

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    One thing is for sure: Apple views us as pro freeloaders and has fisher priced the mini. They've decided it's time for us to pay some more Apple tax.

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    LOL! Yes. Put a 1ghz Celeron in it!
     
  10. justin216 macrumors 6502

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    The new 2014 i7 Mac Mini should benchmark for about the same as a MacBook Air with i7, which benchmarks for around what the 2012 i7 Quad Mac Mini did. So CPU should come out about the same, even with less cores. You'll see GPU gains over the 2012 Mini for sure, Iris is a decent performer.

    All in all, it's a reasonable upgrade, just not the large leap it could have been. The lack of user accessibility/replacing RAM not withstanding, naturally, as that's a deal breaker in and of itself for some.
     
  11. Cherish macrumors member

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    Isn't the new Mac mini the same as the current Macbook Pro Retina 13" i5?
     
  12. justin216 macrumors 6502

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    The 2014 Mac Mini is more like a screen-less MacBook Air, but with the option for 2 drives and Iris graphics on the higher models. The MacBook Pros use more powerful/higher TDP CPUs, as far as I'm aware.
     
  13. Cherish macrumors member

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    I checked Geekbench and the 2012 Mac mini i5 uses 3210m which is the same as 2012 Macbook pro i5 and the scores are similar too.
     
  14. cfedu macrumors 65816

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    I found this chart in another thread, I forgot who.
     

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  15. iamthedudeman macrumors 65816

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    The 2012 quad mini has the same cpu's as the 2012 macbook pro retina. The current mac book air do not come close to the quad i7 in those machines.

    This update cpu wise is a major step backward. Apple is counting on most people not noticing as the general public do not know a thing about cpus, dual or quad core etc.
     
  16. markusbeutel macrumors regular

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    In comparison, they will. Dig around on the forum, people have posted processor comparisons, the new models win out by a little on single-core tasks, while the 2012 models completely dominate on multi-core.

    Edit: Or just scroll up :p
     
  17. waloshin macrumors 68040

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    That is true, 90% of Apples core market know nothing about specs and usually don't care.
     
  18. Glassed Silver macrumors 68020

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    At this point probably all to some extend.

    Enter Grand Central Dispatch (damn, the name alone is amazing, it's pretty lovely tech, too)

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Central_Dispatch

    Glassed Silver:mac
     
  19. johngwheeler macrumors 6502

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    I don't think so. I have a 2011 quad-core i7 Mini (2.0GHz) and it's about 25% faster than my 2013 MBA i7. I think the 2012 quad-core Mini would be quite a bit faster.
     
  20. opeter macrumors 65816

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    So, the best value is the middle Mac mini ...

    Is it worth to upgrade the RAM from 8 to 16 GB if you do relatively heavy image editing and DTP?

    Because the price difference between 8 -> 16 GB RAM is +200 €!
     
  21. fa8362 macrumors 65816

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    If you need CPU power, the best value is the 2012 i7. You can add RAM in less than a few minutes.
     
  22. voyager03 macrumors member

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    I think you are completely correct. The majority of the market Apple attract with the mini mostly will not care, or need, to add to the RAM the box they get has. They will just use it - and it will work fine for them.
     
  23. xylitol macrumors regular

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    Maybe that just shows how slow they are.
     
  24. opeter macrumors 65816

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    Thanks. The problem is, the GPU in the new minis is (much) better, than in the old ones. Or is it maybe better to wait until, I don't know ... next year, until Broadwell comes out and the Mac minis get a refresh with better intel GPU?
     
  25. thedeske macrumors 6502a

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    If nothing else, my late 2012 just gained 100 bucks in resale value.
    Thanks Apple!
     

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