Some animations are choppy

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  1. mdimovv, Jul 26, 2012
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    mdimovv macrumors newbie

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    Hey,

    MacBook 13 inch mid-2012 here.
    When i was on Lion 10.7.4 all animations were great snappy and awesome.
    When i updated to 10.8 Mission control, app folder open, calendars app are 10 fps down - still usable but choppier. Although switching between spaces, scrolling in Safari and many other are great like 60+ fps.

    Anyone experiencing something like this? Suggestions?
    Probably going to be fixed in future updates...
     
  2. Skoopman macrumors 6502

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    I had choppy animations while switching through desktops. Doing a clean install now.
     
  3. MasterHowl macrumors 65816

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    I've got a mid-2009 MBP and the only thing that's choppy on mine is flipping pages in Calendar... must be a software issue, because my machine's ancient now...
     
  4. fb0r macrumors newbie

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    I suspect it's graphics driver issues.

    I've got three Macs and the one that is particularly struggling with UI animations (especially swiping between desktop spaces) is my old 2010 MacBook Air 13" (w/4GB RAM and the 2.13GHz CPU). I traced some of the desktop sluggishness back to the dock which, when visible, makes switching between desktop spaces (I usually use two or three) noticeably choppy when compared to how they were on Lion and Snow Leopard. If I hide the dock then switching between my desktops is smooth as silk. My guess is that it has to do with the drivers for the 2010 Air's nVidia graphics as most other animations in the UI are perfectly smooth.

    To add to that I've seen Mountain Lion on another 2010 MacBook Air 13 (baseline) and it has the exact same issue when swiping between desktop spaces while the dock is shown.

    In comparison my 2011 Sandy Bridge Air has no problems at all with any UI animations which is remarkable since the Intel HD3000 graphics are just about as powerful as the previous MacBook Air generation's nVidia graphics...

    The calendar app is entirely another matter. All my Macs struggle with the page flipping animation etc so obviously something's up with that app.

    Cheers, fb0r
     
  5. Hephaestus macrumors 6502

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    Same for me, everything is buttery smooth except for flipping pages in calendar. I'm running a 2009 MBP 15" 2.66GHz and 8GB RAM.
     
  6. netnothing macrumors 68040

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    2010 Mac Pro......switching between desktops is choppy for me.

    -Kevin
     
  7. Michaelgtrusa macrumors 604

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    I see this also when moving from desktops and mission control.
     
  8. netnothing macrumors 68040

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    Anyone else seeing the flickering when using the screenshot tool?

    I posted this in the other thread I started....when I use:

    CMD + Control + Shift + 4

    The crosshairs that popup with the coordinates are stutterey as I move the mouse.

    -Kevin
     
  9. dixido macrumors member

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    I also see the same flickering on my 2010 15" MBP.

    Although it's not the end of the world for me I hope they will fix it rather soon.
     
  10. netnothing macrumors 68040

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    Thanks for letting me know. Overall I'm thinking Apple screwed a lot up with the graphics drivers in ML. Hopefully 10.8.1 comes in a few weeks and fixes some things.

    -Kevin
     
  11. motorazr macrumors 6502

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    +1 guessing a graphics driver thing.

    My 2011 MBA (11", i7) has very rarely had trouble with smooth graphics between exposé, mission control, spaces, etc. . . but mission control and a few other things randomly are choppy.

    Also, the iMac had a rough transition in safari into the tab view... haven't done too much on the iMac yet tho. Overall happy with the system :)
     
  12. mdimovv thread starter macrumors newbie

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    Guys something strange happened here.
    Was opened Safari, Xcode, Preview, Activity Monitor, App Store and playing with the dock. And then tried App Grid animation and buttery smoothness like on Lion - even better. Tried Launchpad, Mission Control - the same. That was on 15:45PM, till now.
    Changed wallpaper, played a bit and... now it is not smooth again at some animations.
    MacBook Air 13" 2012 here.
    Trying to reboot now and see what happens.
     
  13. Michaelgtrusa macrumors 604

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    eternalstorms posted this on twitter.
     

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  14. Roofy. macrumors 6502a

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    you only need cmnd shift and 4.
     
  15. iGuybrush macrumors newbie

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    Same here, also on a MBP 15" 2010. Cursor flickers when trying to get a screenshot, but also do it randomly when hovering the mouse over some elements (Mail text editor, web pages elements...).
    I think this only happens with the intel card.
     
  16. netnothing macrumors 68040

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    Cmd + Shift + 4 = saves to a file
    Cmd + Control + Shift + 4 = saves to clipboard to paste in other apps

    Same with the 3 option.

    -Kevin

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    Well I have a Mac Pro 2010 with the ATI 5870.....that's a 1GB RAM card.....I'd expect ML to be buttery smooth....but it seems Apple couldn't give a crap to program for cards like that.

    -Kevin
     
  17. mdimovv thread starter macrumors newbie

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    No problems with Screenshot tool here.
     
  18. netnothing macrumors 68040

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    I'd hope you wouldn't have the flickering on a mid 2012 :p

    -Kevin
     
  19. mdimovv thread starter macrumors newbie

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    Try this - immediately after waking up from sleep, try some animations - with my Air now after wake-up it is again buttery smooth, and after 5 secs it isn't.
     
  20. Set845 macrumors regular

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    I clean installed the GM release on a 60GB partition on my mid 2011 i7 16 GB RAM with 1 GB AMD. I found animations were smoother than Lion everywhere. Yesterday I updated to Mountain Lion on my main partition and deleted the GM partition. I noticed choppy animations as you describe so I repaired permissions. I noticed a bunch of core animation files needed repairing. After a reboot all animations everywhere were smooth again. I hope this helps.
     
  21. netnothing macrumors 68040

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    I'll have to try this later.

    Permissions repair is clean now. Was done right after install and I've rebooted multiple times as well as a Safe boot.

    -Kevin
     
  22. digitalgopher macrumors newbie

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    Not choppy but slow

    Anyone notice this -> it's not necessarily a choppy animation as per the OP but a different, slower animation than in Lion:

    when swiping across desktops (both left and right), I get super smooth sliding action until almost the very end when the desktop slide is almost settled. it's not a stutter, but a general slowdown in the pace of how quickly the 'slide' settles to rest as compared to how it used to be in Lion. This is on a MacBook Air (Late 2010) and iMac (late 2009).

    it's almost a second or so longer, but quite noticeable... and a tad bit annoying. I liked the slide better in Lion.

    anyone else experience this?
     
  23. netnothing macrumors 68040

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    Between my Mac Pro with ML and my old White Macbook with Lion....I do notice this very subtle difference when switching desktops by swiping (or in my case Control Arrow).

    It's almost as if in ML, they are slowing it down right before it finishes.

    -Kevin
     
  24. Set845 macrumors regular

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    I see this too. Try a fast swipe. The space snaps right in.
     
  25. digitalgopher macrumors newbie

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    I'm not familiar with fast swipe (and am not in front of my Mac atm). is it an option in Settings?
     

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