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I have asked for help in the past regarding my ATV bandwidth issues where the ATV has to be reboot after 1-3 days because the bandwidth drops to be super slow. Some new info..

All roommates are out of the house this week on vacation and no one is using the wireless but me. But today I had to reboot my ATV because of WIFi bandwidth issues. "Sometimes" I also need to reboot my Mac or other apple device because of the same problem but not as frequently. All apple devices reside in my room which is upstairs while WIFI router is downstairs. Running a long ethernet cable will not work due to the placement of WIFI router and landlord rules. So anyone have any suggestions given this new update? Before I thought only AppleTv had the issue but apparently not. AppleTV just has the issue and needs to be rebooted more than other apple devices.
 
Since wired connection is not possible, you can get a router and set it as a repeater that act as an extender (connect to the main router 5GHz band). You can place it between your ATV and the main router which can help improve coverage and speed. You can try placing it around the 2nd floor or even in the room where the ATV is and/or connect the ATV using Ethernet cable to that router. I would suggest give it a try for a few days and return it if it doesn’t resolve the issue.
 
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Since wired connection is not possible, you can get a router and set it as a repeater that act as an extender (connect to the main router 5GHz band). You can place it between your ATV and the main router which can help improve coverage and speed. You can try placing it around the 2nd floor or even in the room where the ATV is and/or connect the ATV using Ethernet cable to that router. I would suggest give it a try for a few days and return it if it doesn’t resolve the issue.
So just buy a WIFI router at Best Buy and Ethernet cable?
 
Yes. If you know what model is the main router aka AC or AX, you can get something similar. There are routers ~ $100 which should be enough unless it is a very large house and the main router is at very end. Just avoid those WiFi extenders that plug into the wall and mesh routers unless the main router is an ASUS then you can get another ASUS router that can create a mesh network.
 
Yes. If you know what model is the main router aka AC or AX, you can get something similar. There are routers ~ $100 which should be enough unless it is a very large house and the main router is at very end. Just avoid those WiFi extenders that plug into the wall and mesh routers unless the main router is an ASUS then you can get another ASUS router that can create a mesh network.
No clue what you are saying. I am just gonna stop by Best Buy tomorrow and ask them.
 
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Yes. If you know what model is the main router aka AC or AX, you can get something similar. There are routers ~ $100 which should be enough unless it is a very large house and the main router is at very end. Just avoid those WiFi extenders that plug into the wall and mesh routers unless the main router is an ASUS then you can get another ASUS router that can create a mesh network.
It’s a small house or town home.
 
if you know what model is the main router aka AC or AX,

manufacturer and model number would help - for the main router connected to the internet modem.

Most vendors have routers now that support mesh networks. If the main router supports it then you would be better getting a mesh extender. A repeater often has 1/2 the bandwidth of the main router, and you are already having bandwidth problems.

 
I mostly agree with the above- except the part about buying just any router.

If you really cannot get one run of ethernet run upstairs somewhere in the house- something I doubt if both you and landlord are $$$ motivated (you for a reliable connection and landlord for a new benefit to pitch to future renter candidates)... especially if you 100% pay to have it done and make it look as "pretty" as possible when finished (an ethernet wall jack at both connection points- you need to identify exactly WHICH kind of router landlord has. If it is a mesh router, buy a matching extender for that unit (as HDFan says in the prior post).

If landlords router is old/non-mesh, pitch buying a "latest & greatest" Wifi 6 or better mesh router replacement. If you 100% pay for it (to eliminate any cost concern from a potentially penny-pinching landlord), landlord should welcome the "free" hardware upgrade (to maximize their own wifi downstairs too). Hook router up downstairs and extender(s) upstairs. If you get one with 2 extenders, put one close to AppleTV and plug AppleTV into the ethernet jack on the extender so you can bypass wifi usage for AppleTV within your own space (unfortunately, mesh is still using wifi to connect to the router downstairs, so if there is some odd interference cause around, this may not resolve your issue (which again points back to one run of ethernet from landlords router to your space).

An extender (as also just recommended by HDFan) is another option that I know first hand can work pretty well. It differs from a mesh extender by not necessarily being from the same mesh product line or even the same manufacturer. Nevertheless, it functionally works similar to mesh though it too is at the mercy of getting wifi from downstairs to it and whatever the interference may affect that too. The best option with an extender is (again) to use one run of ethernet from router to it to bypass any floor-to-floor interference.

As also offered in your prior threads, ethernet over power lines can work great (not as great as one run of ethernet cable down the inside of the wall but better than nothing)... a way to kind of run an ethernet connection up to you without having to actually get an ethernet cable in the wall (using existing electrical lines instead). In a situation like yours, I've set someone up with this solution to make for better AppleTV usage and it worked fine. Basically, this is:
  1. 2 little boxes plugged into an electrical jack on the wall, one downstairs near landlords router and one upstairs (almost) wherever you like it.
  2. Plug an ethernet cable from router into an ethernet jack on one power line box downstairs.
  3. Plug an ethernet cable from power line box upstairs either directly into your AppleTV or ANY wifi router you like upstairs.
  4. Check signal (speed test). If no signal, try a different power jack upstairs or maybe a few until you find a solid signal. Not every electrical jack is likely to work. Both ends have to be on the SAME circuit. So move your box around and test connection until you find an outlet on the same circuit as the landlords end.
To keep this simple, from your powerline ethernet box, plug right into AppleTV and see if you have a signal (then run speed test). If you do, either leave it as a dedicated AppleTV solution or add your own router to that ethernet connection and then connect your AppleTV to your own router via Ethernet. This will give you your own wifi network upstairs as well as a fast ethernet connection for your AppleTV.

This is easy enough to buy & try (with simple landlord cooperation). If it works, problem likely solved. If it doesn't return this product and try one of the others. This probably won't yield internet as fast as a dedicated run of ethernet but it should be fast enough for your usages described in several threads about this.

Lastly, MOVE. I don't recall your first post about this but you have to be getting close to your rental anniversary. My gut guess is your first post about this "feels" like it was about 6+ months ago or so. If landlord won't work with you to deliver a solid solution (which I still argue at least ONE run of ethernet in the wall as very best option), move and choose a place with a broadband option that doesn't have you dependent on somebody else's modem & router. A solid Internet connection is obviously very important to you. One of the best things about being a renter is the easy ability to move when a rental space is no longer working for you. If you choose this option, make your new rental search include a priority to show you how you are going to have your own modem, router hookup so you can completely control all 100% of the wifi bandwidth instead of sharing only a portion of someone else's. Move into that space, hook up high quality modem & router hardware and completely resolve this problem without needing any favors from anyone else.

One more thing: roommates not being physically there doesn't mean they are not eating bandwidth. I'm traveling right now but regularly logging into the home system to transfer some files, I have a DVR system recording favorite shows and storing them on a network drive, security system is watching the property and recording any movement, etc.

While I built the home and run Ethernet to almost everything, a few things have to lean on wifi. If I didn’t wire everything, much more would be using wifi instead.

So even though I'm not there, some wifi is being used. What if your roommates are doing the same? What if landlord has some wifi things using bandwidth even when they are not there (security stuff? Etc.). If they are on vacation, what if they are remotely transferring photos & videos they are taking to their home machine over wifi? Etc. There's LOTS of possibilities.
 
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The problem with buying equipment to extend the landlord's equipment is that old saying we had, "Crap in, crap out". Without knowing a lot more about the landlord's internet setup, I have reservations about spending a lot of money on solutions which might not work if the existing system just can't operate properly. I think the best solution would be to get an internet solution like the one offered by T-Mobile which requires no cables to be run into the house from outside. Basically just set the router in an upstairs window, plug it into AC, run an ethernet cable to the ATV and all should be fine. The landlord wouldn't even need to know since it is basically like watching video on your phone--no cables, and no business of the landlord at all. It will cost about $50/month though, but no initial equipment costs.

The OP has been complaining about this for months, and the landlord always seems unwilling to assist him and/or he balks at spending even $30 to $50 for a solution. So no matter what we suggest here, it will likely just fall on deaf ears again.
 
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The problem with buying equipment to extend the landlord's equipment is that old saying we had, "Crap in, crap out". Without knowing a lot more about the landlord's internet setup, I have reservations about spending a lot of money on solutions which might not work if the existing system just can't operate properly. I think the best solution would be to get an internet solution like the one offered by T-Mobile which requires no cables to be run into the house from outside. Basically just set the router in an upstairs window, plug it into AC, run an ethernet cable to the ATV and all should be fine. The landlord wouldn't even need to know since it is basically like watching video on your phone--no cables, and no business of the landlord at all. It will cost about $50/month though, but no initial equipment costs.

The OP has been complaining about this for months, and the landlord always seems unwilling to assist him and/or he balks at spending even $30 to $50 for a solution. So no matter what we suggest here, it will likely just fall on deaf ears again.
Excuse me???? I am gonna visit Best Buy soon.
 
1. To those more knowledgable on routers. I am admittedly no expert on routers and wifi. However, the question that keeps coming to my mind is, why does rebooting the ATV apparently cure the issue of low bandwidth for a few days? If it is a weak signal issue, that most here are assuming by recommending extenders, etc., why does a reboot fix it?

2. OP, you have said many times here and in other threads, that you have limited resources and can't afford some of the other suggestions to get your own ISP or professionally run an Ethernet cable thru the wall upstairs, etc. You also state rebooting the ATV fixes the issue for a few days. Here is my low cost solution. Unplug the ATV every night before you go to bed. When you wake up in the morning, plug it back in.
 
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I had what I think is a similar problem, my ATV would slow to a crawl and restarting it would help it get back "up to speed" so to speak.

I know it not your router but I solved this problem by replacing my beloved Apple router (old tech) with a new WiFi 6 Amplify Alien router. I am not saying to get the particular router, just saying by getting a new modern one I now get much stronger signal and much faster speeds on my devices a floor below and a floor above the new router...
 
I had what I think is a similar problem, my ATV would slow to a crawl and restarting it would help it get back "up to speed" so to speak.

I know it not your router but I solved this problem by replacing my beloved Apple router (old tech) with a new WiFi 6 Amplify Alien router. I am not saying to get the particular router, just saying by getting a new modern one I now get much stronger signal and much faster speeds on my devices a floor below and a floor above the new router...
Landlord did replace the modem but I believe the problem is the router.
 
I had what I think is a similar problem, my ATV would slow to a crawl and restarting it would help it get back "up to speed" so to speak.

I know it not your router but I solved this problem by replacing my beloved Apple router (old tech) with a new WiFi 6 Amplify Alien router. I am not saying to get the particular router, just saying by getting a new modern one I now get much stronger signal and much faster speeds on my devices a floor below and a floor above the new router...
Had to reboot iPhone today as well so the problem is not just limited to appletv.
 
Look at the bottom of the wifi router and modem, all the model info should be on a sticker.
 
Look at the bottom of the wifi router and modem, all the model info should be on a sticker.
The router is on a top shelf needing a ladder to reach it. However the modem is easily accessible. Which one do you want the info for?
 
You are looking for:

NetGear NightHawk IMG_1398 edited.png

In this case the router vendor is Netgear, the model is Nighthawk AXE11000.
 
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