I have both the Air and the rMini and they don't have any image retention after the gird test.
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Some Retina iPad Minis Showing Image Retention Issues
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I have both the Air and the rMini and they don't have any image retention after the gird test.
From the same source that "told" the original poster that it was 0.001% The simple truth is we just don't know.
Eh.. I have it on the rMini and even on the iPad 4, but I don't think I will return for IR issues, I never notice during normal use.
However if other screens seem to be having a better gamut, I might think, since that bothers me a little more and I do a lot of video and photography.
However if other screens seem to be having a better gamut, I might think, since that bothers me a little more and I do a lot of video and photography.
So basically your saying the MBPr displays sucked.
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Agree, though saying it's only a very scant cut of devices is incorrect.
Most people will have a defect and never know.
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I believe nothings changed.
Mac Pros are an entirely different beast, and can only sortakinda be compared. That $100 million manufacturing plants are probably responsible for building the chassis, cooling components, the case, and the assembly for the MPs. The two most difficult parts to make, the CPU, GPU, and motherboards, are fabbed offsite by Intel and AMD.
On top of that, the Mac Pro is a much slower seller than any of the iDevices. Apple doesn't need to hire nearly as many employees to churn out millions upon millions in a short amount of time to meet demand.
And a third, Apple has always manufactured some of their own products in their own backyard. The Mac Pro (and some iMacs, I believe) being produced here isn't a new thing, rather a return to the oldschool. And much like now, they didn't do any of the fabbing themselves. They've always outsourced to someone else to make their CPUs, motherboards, and screens.
To put it simply, Apple homegrowing all the separate components of the iDevices under their own umbrella would cost a helluva lot more money than what they're spending producing Pros stateside. Likely by a factor of a thousand. Producing CPUs, motherboards, and LCD panels requires a lot of specializing that costs tons of cash to make. Doing it quickly, efficiently, and massively requires even more money, and a good bit of expertise to do it well.
Yeah, Samsung can do it, but they can subsidize the cost of all their fabbing plants by dabbling in a little bit of everything, from fridges, to TVs, to computers, to stereo equipment, to life insurance. They're a conglomerate in every sense of the world, and are a thousand times bigger than Apple ever will be. Apple, on the other hand, is a company focused on doing a narrow range of products well, as per the wishes of Steve Jobs. For them to grow to the point where they could actually justify making all their components inhouse would destroy what Apple currently is.
Panasonic hopes to build LCD panels for iPads
let's all wish this happens:
http://appleinsider.com/articles/12...-to-build-lcd-panels-for-apples-ipad---report
they make best quality displays.Apple should get rid of LG.
let's all wish this happens:
http://appleinsider.com/articles/12...-to-build-lcd-panels-for-apples-ipad---report
they make best quality displays.Apple should get rid of LG.
Not bothered who they buy to be honest, that wasn't my main point. Could be Sharp, could be someone else. They could easily sell off or close the factories and keep the core IP and staff.
Assuming they don't buy someone how are they going to make a Television? It would just be a Sharp or LG TV rebadged.
guys, i just realized, holiday return policy--we have until January to return..pretty nice, so we can play with our mini retinas, and then return if a better batch comes through later 
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You raise a good point. I purposely don't run all the stupid tests because my Air is perfect and to be honest I am enjoying it and prefer not to look for problems. People who post here are some of the small percentage of users with issues or who look for issues. All that being said, in every day use, if I use my Air and discover a dead pixel it's going back for a replacement. I don't go through a battery of tests but I do expect my devices to have a flawless screen for what I paid for it.
Gamut is the real issue
For me, the burn-in is not a concern. What I'm seeing is a substantial reduction in color saturation and accuracy between the rMini and the iPad Air. Anandtech reviewed the rMini, and according to their lab tests, the display is NOT sRGB. This is a big problem for me, given the premium we're paying for these devices. Its like we got 1/2 of a Retina display - better resolution, but sucky color depth.
I'm posting a pic of a web page displayed on my rMini (left) next to my iPad Air (right). Brightness was set at 100% on both devices, and this picture has not been retouched. The difference in color accuracy is glaring, and quite frankly, disappointing.
For me, the burn-in is not a concern. What I'm seeing is a substantial reduction in color saturation and accuracy between the rMini and the iPad Air. Anandtech reviewed the rMini, and according to their lab tests, the display is NOT sRGB. This is a big problem for me, given the premium we're paying for these devices. Its like we got 1/2 of a Retina display - better resolution, but sucky color depth.
I'm posting a pic of a web page displayed on my rMini (left) next to my iPad Air (right). Brightness was set at 100% on both devices, and this picture has not been retouched. The difference in color accuracy is glaring, and quite frankly, disappointing.
Jesus christ, more issues with LG displays?
A friend of mine just got a new rMBP 15inch and his LG screen has horrible burn-in already. My Samsung screen is flawless.
They either need to have better quality control (LG) or Apple needs to go to Samsung. They are capable of making a quality product, LG isn't.
A friend of mine just got a new rMBP 15inch and his LG screen has horrible burn-in already. My Samsung screen is flawless.
They either need to have better quality control (LG) or Apple needs to go to Samsung. They are capable of making a quality product, LG isn't.
You're right, Samsung is excellent. But Apples ego prevents them from acting respectfully. They'd rather play games, threaten to take their chip business elsewhere etc. Apple can't stop worshipping themselves.
Bingo. Both of them need to sack up, set aside their differences, and work together.
For those complaining about people checking for image retention, my question is, people are paying premium for Apple products, shouldn't they get a superiour product?
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FWIW I bought both the 16GB Silver in wifi only and cellular (AT&T). Wifi only has no retention issues, cellular did. Returned it today and the only replacement they had was a 16GB Silver Verizon model. Image retention again. Takes less than 2 min on the grid to be able to see it on the grey.
Apple gives lip service to this, yet in reality they love their profits so much they spend the first segment of every keynote bragging about their accomplishments.
The true test is Apple superior brand strength that is so influential nothing else matters.
Image retention is pretty common and I think it should be judged by typical use, not checker patterns. People don't stare at these patterns when using the devices.
I looked at a light bulb for a second, closed my eyes and hollysh**! An image was still there!! Should I call God the almighty and report this? Maybe drop a class action lawsuit on him/ her/ it whatever.