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Google has managed to add the entire Google Voice Search, which is not dissimilar to Siri, to Android and the entire thing is usable while offline. This is how it should be.

I don't know where you got your information from, but this is my Nexus 4 without an internet connection using voice search:

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Voice recognition is not an easy task, you need vast amounts of data and a lot of processing power if you want to it to work with a majority of people's voices.
 
Sure, they want people to buy apps, but I don't think they intentionally gimp their own to do so. If their apps are feature light, it's for different reasons. One of them being, default apps are designed for a general audience, so simplicity is prioritized over feature load.

I disagree. The features they leave out and the ease with which they could have included is often striking to my experience. GPS apps are great example and they remain a healthy source of income for Apple.
 
I disagree. The features they leave out and the ease with which they could have included is often striking to my experience. GPS apps are great example and they remain a healthy source of income for Apple.

I think you are overestimating the money apple gets from developers. They make their money from hardware, not software.

Also, keep in mind turn by turn is still relatively new on the iPhone. It will gain features slowly over time. Most 1.0 Apple features are generally feature-poor.
 
That's exactly why problems should be discussed here. Why discuss them in a forum for an OS version that can't change, and that is about to be rendered obsolete?

iOS 6 is current, it can also change, only obsolete versions like iOS 4 are really unlikely to change.

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Saving maps would probably use up memory, and GPS wouldn't work properly with no signal.
 
iOS 6 is current, it can also change, only obsolete versions like iOS 4 are really unlikely to change.

They're probably about a month away from releasing iOS 7. There is no way they're going to update iOS 6 unless they find a critical bug, which at this late stage in its life-cycle is highly unlikely.

This is the right forum to discuss changes to iOS.
 
I don't know where you got your information from, but this is my Nexus 4 without an internet connection using voice search:

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Voice recognition is not an easy task, you need vast amounts of data and a lot of processing power if you want to it to work with a majority of people's voices.

Hmm you're right.

The dictation works offline, at least. I thought Google Now did too but I can't get it to work either.

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and GPS wouldn't work properly with no signal.

Yes it would. Have you never had an offline sat nav? My TomTom has no means of connecting to the internet yet it navigates just fine.

GPS doesn't require data. The reason data is required is for the downloading of the maps themselves, and also for A-GPS (a means of finding a GPS satellite more quickly).
 
You guys want to know something sad? If you turn Siri off and enter airplane mode, you can sill use Voice Control.

Why doesn't Apple have Siri do it's processing locally (a la Voice Control) and push it to the servers. Whichever process finishes first, wins. That way, if you don't have a signal, you can still use some functions.
 
You're tired that not everyone has 400 dollars to blow on a 64gb phone? Maybe you should do a good deed and buy one for them so you don't have to hear them complain :)

Actually I buy mine for full price, no discount, no contract so it comes unlocked and I am not tied to any one carrier

Really, for an item I use repeatedly, every day for a year or perhaps more, it is a small price to pay.

I hardly see that as "blowing" money.
 
Actually I buy mine for full price, no discount, no contract so it comes unlocked and I am not tied to any one carrier

Really, for an item I use repeatedly, every day for a year or perhaps more, it is a small price to pay.

I hardly see that as "blowing" money.

That may be the case for you, but that being said, not everyone is as rich as you are :)
 
I buy mine full price too. I won't get strung up by those carriers.

Only Apple. :apple:
 
To everyone who turned Siri off; do you drive? If so, do you just manually dial people or is there another way of voice dialling?
 
I don't know where you got your information from, but this is my Nexus 4 without an internet connection using voice search:

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Voice recognition is not an easy task, you need vast amounts of data and a lot of processing power if you want to it to work with a majority of people's voices.

It need internet to pull the result, you cannot do offline search. But Android is capable of offline voice recognition.
 
It need internet to pull the result, you cannot do offline search. But Android is capable of offline voice recognition.

Offline dictation, yeah. But you still can't use the local features of voice search, like adding calendar entries, to do lists, timers, alarms, etc.
 
To everyone who turned Siri off; do you drive? If so, do you just manually dial people or is there another way of voice dialling?

You can use the original "Voice Control" that was introduced with the iPhone 3GS. Basic things only however, but calling people, dialing, and playing music/playlists are some of those things. :)
 
Why is iOS 7 still slow that's all I care about. They got like 20 days left. The clock is ticking.

Voice control is more responsive actually, and I just dial manually.
 
Not sure if it's been addressed or not but maps does support offline usage. If you visit an area in Maps and zoom right in, it'll cache that area. For visiting cities you don't know, just go and explore the area in maps before you go.

With google map I know you can type 'ok maps' or something like that and it'll cache the map for you, but with Apple Maps it's automatic.
 
Not sure if it's been addressed or not but maps does support offline usage. If you visit an area in Maps and zoom right in, it'll cache that area. For visiting cities you don't know, just go and explore the area in maps before you go.

With google map I know you can type 'ok maps' or something like that and it'll cache the map for you, but with Apple Maps it's automatic.

Good to know, thanks! I might try that out next time I go out.

Any ideas how much it lets you cache? I make a 240 mile round trip every other weekend.
 
Good to know, thanks! I might try that out next time I go out.

Any ideas how much it lets you cache? I make a 240 mile round trip every other weekend.

I'm not sure. I tested it with a trip to Paris last year. Make sure to zoom all the way in and it'll cache that area. If you're planning on doing that for an entire 240 mile journey...good luck ;-)
 
I'm not sure. I tested it with a trip to Paris last year. Make sure to zoom all the way in and it'll cache that area. If you're planning on doing that for an entire 240 mile journey...good luck ;-)

I know the way off by heart now so I don't really need to, would just be good to know it works as I sometimes have to make other long trips I'm not so used to :p
 
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