Someone explain what multtasking is, and why ios is worse at it?

GKDAIR

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I've played around on several Android machines, but I'll just be upfront about my loyalty being to Apple.

I wouldn't exactly call myself a "power user" but I'm more than a "casual user"

Everybody always talks about multitasking, and how the Android has "true" multitasking" but to me, it doesn't do anything differently than ios.

I'm starting to think it's just a market buzzword that Android likes to throw around, much like Segas "Blast Processing"
 

mattopotamus

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I may be wrong, but that was an issue in the past. IOS "multi-tasking" use to just suspend an app where you left off or even restart it completely. For example, you could not start going to a website, leave the app, and have it continue to load the website. I think IOS 7 fixed that and does it similar to android now.
 

Sensamic

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I may be wrong, but that was an issue in the past. IOS "multi-tasking" use to just suspend an app where you left off or even restart it completely. For example, you could not start going to a website, leave the app, and have it continue to load the website. I think IOS 7 fixed that and does it similar to android now.
Nope. Multitasking is basically the same, only now selected apps can fetch data on the background, but there's still no true multitasking. It's like the app turns on by itself for a minute and then exits on it's own again. It doesn't stay active! The example you gave with Safari is excellent. Not only that, if you touch the screen while the webpage is loading it will stop loading until you take your finger off the screen.

You can't download something in the background while you are doing something else, for example. With Android, I download my tv shows via torrent while I browse the web or do something else. This is impossible with iOS.

As much as the OP wants it, iOS has no true multitasking and Android does, and it is much much better. That's the way things are. He is a casual user, so he just doesn't get it.

I can even turn the screen off in my Android device and let it download stuff for hours without a problem, just like a computer.

Google Now is another example of true multitasking.
 

jonAppleSeed

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Take for example DropBox with photo sync enabled.

On Android:
Take a picture with the camera app and within seconds your photo is now in DropBox.

On iOS:
Take a picture with the camera app. Open up DropBox. Your photo is now in DropBox.

DropBox on Android has a service that runs in the background looking for new photo to upload.
 

dojoman

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Take for example DropBox with photo sync enabled.

On Android:
Take a picture with the camera app and within seconds your photo is now in DropBox.

On iOS:
Take a picture with the camera app. Open up DropBox. Your photo is now in DropBox.

DropBox on Android has a service that runs in the background looking for new photo to upload.
In iOS7 I can upload to flickr without opening flickr app, it uploads in background. Apple hasn't support Dropbox as native upload in iOS7.
 

GKDAIR

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As much as I want multitasking?

Since I never noticed a difference between Android or ios in terms of multitasking, I clearly don't want it that badly.

Web pages load in a matter of seconds, so I don't know why I would even bother with that.


Again, to me this just sounds like a Market Buzzword, which Apple has plenty of those as well, don't get me wrong.
 

Sensamic

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As much as I want multitasking?

Since I never noticed a difference between Android or ios in terms of multitasking, I clearly don't want it that badly.

Web pages load in a matter of seconds, so I don't know why I would even bother with that.


Again, to me this just sounds like a Market Buzzword, which Apple has plenty of those as well, don't get me wrong.
Ok, so you just really don't see the benefits of having computer-like multitasking on mobile devices...

Maybe we should all go back to black and white screens too. No one needs color screens :rolleyes:
 

cullen43

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I always understood multitasking to mean using two apps (programmes) at the same time.

For example, on my win 7 machine: having IE open together with windows mail and each using half the screen. I can then be writing an email and checking data from the web, switching between the two by simply clicking where I want.

Surely that is as close to true multitasking as you can get on a computer.

Or...try juggling with a couple of tennis balls while kicking a football at the same time.
 

walie

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Your mistake is thinking "multitasking" is a pr buzzword as you call it. Its an actual term that existed long before Android or iOS was created.
 

mattopotamus

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I always understood multitasking to mean using two apps (programmes) at the same time.

For example, on my win 7 machine: having IE open together with windows mail and each using half the screen. I can then be writing an email and checking data from the web, switching between the two by simply clicking where I want.

Surely that is as close to true multitasking as you can get on a computer.

Or...try juggling with a couple of tennis balls while kicking a football at the same time.
That is multi window and the note line offers that feature.
 

Lloydbm41

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I've played around on several Android machines, but I'll just be upfront about my loyalty being to Apple.

I wouldn't exactly call myself a "power user" but I'm more than a "casual user"

Everybody always talks about multitasking, and how the Android has "true" multitasking" but to me, it doesn't do anything differently than ios.

I'm starting to think it's just a market buzzword that Android likes to throw around, much like Segas "Blast Processing"
On Android, begin downloading an app, a file from the internet or drop a picture into Google Drive, Dropbox, Box, whatever and then turn your screen off. Everything continues to run until finished.

Open a webpage, and begin downloading a file. Minimize the web browser and play a game. The file continues downloading in the background and when finished you will be notified in the status bar and then can go into your files and view it.

Rich notifications and multi-view was also added into KitKat, allowing for things like I mentioned above. This allows for complete multitasking. Example. I am watching a podcast or a video. A notification comes in and I hear the notification and now see my LED light up the color green. I know I have an email based on the tone and led. However, before 4.4, I would have to pause my video and go to notification drawer to see what the email was. As of 4.4, I can simply swipe down and preview the notification drawer to see if it is worth pausing my video to answer the email (or text, or whatever).
 

gotluck

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I always understood multitasking to mean using two apps (programmes) at the same time.

For example, on my win 7 machine: having IE open together with windows mail and each using half the screen. I can then be writing an email and checking data from the web, switching between the two by simply clicking where I want.

Surely that is as close to true multitasking as you can get on a computer.

Or...try juggling with a couple of tennis balls while kicking a football at the same time.
Some android browsers can do this, namely Boat Browser. Can be used in a resizabile window over another app.
 

Misskitty

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I may be wrong, but that was an issue in the past. IOS "multi-tasking" use to just suspend an app where you left off or even restart it completely. For example, you could not start going to a website, leave the app, and have it continue to load the website. I think IOS 7 fixed that and does it similar to android now.
rofl
 

mattopotamus

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On Android, begin downloading an app, a file from the internet or drop a picture into Google Drive, Dropbox, Box, whatever and then turn your screen off. Everything continues to run until finished.

Open a webpage, and begin downloading a file. Minimize the web browser and play a game. The file continues downloading in the background and when finished you will be notified in the status bar and then can go into your files and view it.

Rich notifications and multi-view was also added into KitKat, allowing for things like I mentioned above. This allows for complete multitasking. Example. I am watching a podcast or a video. A notification comes in and I hear the notification and now see my LED light up the color green. I know I have an email based on the tone and led. However, before 4.4, I would have to pause my video and go to notification drawer to see what the email was. As of 4.4, I can simply swipe down and preview the notification drawer to see if it is worth pausing my video to answer the email (or text, or whatever).
Only thing missing is quick reply...how is that still not baked in?
 

GKDAIR

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Your mistake is thinking "multitasking" is a pr buzzword as you call it. Its an actual term that existed long before Android or iOS was created.
No.


I'm saying that the way Android talks about multitasking makes it seem like it's a marketing buzzword used by higher ups, and nobody can really tell me what it actually means. As evidenced by this topic.
 

nebo1ss

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No.


I'm saying that the way Android talks about multitasking makes it seem like it's a marketing buzzword used by higher ups, and nobody can really tell me what it actually means. As evidenced by this topic.

I think it has been explained to you by many others already not sure why you do no understand it. The meaning is in the expression itself "Multi-Tasking"
The ability to do more than one thing at a time. Android has the ability like a computer to have multiple applications running at the same time completing different tasks. Apple does not do this, only the application that you can see is active. They provide a way to get back to other applications that you were using previously at the point at which you left them. However, they are not active when you leave them and move to another application.
 

pdqgp

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True Multitasking

No.

I'm saying that the way Android talks about multitasking makes it seem like it's a marketing buzzword used by higher ups, and nobody can really tell me what it actually means. As evidenced by this topic.
It's not just a "buzzword" on the part of Android/Google/etc. It's real and several examples in this thread are perhaps not of value to you but they are real. In some cases however, they aren't of value such as downloading a spreadsheet, pdf, MSWord File, etc. because in iOS you really can't download it, edit it and store it in a true file system for later use. You can "park it" in the file system of another 3rd party app but that's just a ridiculous work-around.

I was at the airport recently and while waiting for my flight, wanted to take advantage of the time by multitasking on my phone. There were about a dozen videos (11 GB) worth of Affordable Care Act related videos up on YouTube that I wanted to download and review on a plane ride in efforts to tackle some learning for work, but on an iPhone that wouldn't be possible in several ways. However, with my Note 3 not only could I open a dual screen answering email (1) while simultaneously searching downloading multiple videos from YouTube at one time (2), I could then put both those apps in the background and move onto something else (3rd thing), all while waiting for my notification that the videos were on board my micro SD Card. At the same time as all of the above, Google Now was keeping me posted on the status of my flight real-time, including gate changes and delays pushing those notifications to me as well while I was doing something else (4th thing). While all that's going on, my weather widget is keeping me updated real time on what the weather was like at my destination. (5th thing) Before getting on my plane I could swipe over to my 2nd home screen and see my SalesForce.com Widget and read real-time updated communications from my sales team. (6th thing)

At the same time Google Now is also reading through my emails, picking up any order confirmations that come to me from vendor. Once it sees it, it begins tracking my UPS Package from Amazon that I ordered the night before and will notify me of it being delivered without me doing anything, so I can call my neighbor and insure he gets the box off my front porch as I would be in the air. When I land and turn on my phone, it will update me on traffic and the route/time to my hotel so when I get in my rental car, I'm not caught by a surprise accident delaying me. As I approach my hotel, Retail me Not will chime in with updates on coupons and specials that are around me and Google Now will read my calender and present me the directions to the steakhouse I'm having a dinner meeting at and also present me with their menu. The last few aren't true multitasking but they are an example of great Google Driven features that happen in the background and come through as notifications that I can dismiss individually.

The above is true multitasking. 6 Tasks all being done simultaneously some in the background and some by me first hand all with the ability to switch back and forth without interrupting the other.

There are a number of examples whereby Android can use Live Widgets that are active in the background updating and presenting us with real-time information. Not just with "select-supported" apps either. Sure, Apple has "supported" apps that can do similar things....but not supporting Dropbox? Really? Users are okay with that? iOS will support. No thanks, I want to be able to choose which apps I want to use and know that if it's my photos, that they will be uploaded in the background while I do other things.
 
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Lloydbm41

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Only thing missing is quick reply...how is that still not baked in?
I have quick reply, but that may be part of my CM11 ROM? Although, I have never needed or used the feature. It's just simpler to ignore a text if I am driving rather than having to press a button to send a quick reply saying that "I can't respond right now. I am driving". :p
 

mattopotamus

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I have quick reply, but that may be part of my CM11 ROM? Although, I have never needed or used the feature. It's just simpler to ignore a text if I am driving rather than having to press a button to send a quick reply saying that "I can't respond right now. I am driving". :p
Yeah that is part of the ROM. It's more useful when in another app and want to respond without leaving. Third party apps can add it, but it changes the messaging app.

You are thinking of something different than quick reply. You are thinking of just an auto message and that is part of the default launcher

Quick reply is more of a pop up that let's you respond without leaving the current app you are in.
 

Lloydbm41

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Yeah that is part of the ROM. It's more useful when in another app and want to respond without leaving. Third party apps can add it, but it changes the messaging app.

You are thinking of something different than quick reply. You are thinking of just an auto message and that is part of the default launcher

Quick reply is more of a pop up that let's you respond without leaving the current app you are in.
Oh yeah. Got ya. I have used that feature in my ROMs. When a person texts me, I can respond to the pop-up while still in my app or on the web. Respond to the person and the pop-up auto-closes and the text is sent. I do use that feature quite a bit. Never really thought about how Google hasn't added that as a stock feature until just now when you said it. And you are right. That should be an added built-in feature!
 

Dontazemebro

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No.


I'm saying that the way Android talks about multitasking makes it seem like it's a marketing buzzword used by higher ups, and nobody can really tell me what it actually means. As evidenced by this topic.
I believe it's because you're a casual user and don't really need true multitasking whereas most android users here, myself included, use it frequently on a daily basis. Therefore you're not comprehending what everybody is telling you. Probably just like I don't need or care about iMessaging, and don't understand the huge fascination between iOS users. I mean text messaging plans are unlimited by default, so what's the big deal?
 

Fanaticalism

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I believe it's because you're a casual user and don't really need true multitasking whereas most android users here, myself included, use it frequently on a daily basis. Therefore you're not comprehending what everybody is telling you. Probably just like I don't need or care about iMessaging, and don't understand the huge fascination between iOS users. I mean text messaging plans are unlimited by default, so what's the big deal?
iMessaging is only relevant because Apple integrated instant messaging into their native sms application which creates issues for group chats for non iOS users, when send as SMS is disabled in their iMessaging settings (the real issue is that most don't know they have it disabled and or know the difference).
 
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