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Discussion in 'Digital Photography' started by asiammyself, Dec 30, 2007.

  1. asiammyself macrumors newbie

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    Im checking out a nikon d-80 tomorrow. Is there a quick easy way to check how many shots it has left. (aka the nikon d-40 shutter is tested for 50,000 clicks (I think) is there a way to check how many clicks that person has taken with it? I would prefer if there was a way to check without hooking it up to a computer but if I must. Thank you.

    _Joe
     
  2. GoCubsGo macrumors Nehalem

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    Well you can check the shutter count and hope it was never reset. I never reset my d70 but suddenly it reset itself. I was pissed. I was at about 9k actuations but I think (someone told me) it may be the battery.

    Anyway, you can check that and hopefully take their word for it. Also my understanding is you can check something like this using an application called IExif by Opanda.
     
  3. Digital Skunk macrumors 604

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    Your D70 reset itself because it reached the end of the count. It starts over at 9999 shots, resetting back to 1.

    The app you mention is the one. Get it and find out how many shots have been taken.
     
  4. OreoCookie macrumors 68030

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    The number of shutter releases is stored in the EXIF data of the pictures you've taken. Search for Actuations. Make sure not to have touched the file, usually a lot of EXIF info is lost once you edit/export the image (at least this is what happens when I export pictures with Aperture).
     
  5. asiammyself thread starter macrumors newbie

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    Well I bought the camera its great its only got about 300 shots on it. Looks brand new....:) But it seems as the kit lens on it (18-135) auto focus is not working. The person I bought it from has had it a year, how long does the kit lens have a warranty for? Could it be possible to send it in under warranty? If not how much am I looking at to fix this.:confused: This is rather annoying.
     
  6. Westside guy macrumors 601

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    For Mac users (which most of us on this forum are, I assume) - you can just install exiftool using fink. Exiftool will show you every field attached to the image, including "shutter count".

    Code:
    $ exiftool _DSC0002.JPG 
    ExifTool Version Number         : 6.54
    File Name                       : _DSC0002.JPG
    File Size                       : 2 MB
    File Modification Date/Time     : 2008:01:01 16:02:16
    File Type                       : JPEG
    MIME Type                       : image/jpeg
    Make                            : NIKON CORPORATION
    Camera Model Name               : NIKON D70
    Orientation                     : Rotate 270 CW
    X Resolution                    : 300
    Y Resolution                    : 300
    Resolution Unit                 : inches
    Software                        : Ver.2.00
    Modify Date                     : 2008:01:01 16:02:15
    White Point                     : 0.313 0.329
    Primary Chromaticities          : 0.64 0.33 0.21 0.71 0.15 0.06
    Y Cb Cr Coefficients            : 0.299 0.587 0.114
    Y Cb Cr Positioning             : Co-sited
    Exposure Time                   : 0.3
    F Number                        : 3.5
    Exposure Program                : Program AE
    Exif Version                    : 0221
    Date/Time Original              : 2008:01:01 16:02:15
    Create Date                     : 2008:01:01 16:02:15
    Components Configuration        : YCbCr
    Compressed Bits Per Pixel       : 4
    Exposure Compensation           : +1/2
    Max Aperture Value              : 3.5
    Metering Mode                   : Multi-segment
    Flash                           : No Flash
    Focal Length                    : 18.0mm
    Firmware Version                : 2.10
    ISO                             : 200
    Quality                         : Fine
    White Balance                   : Auto
    Focus Mode                      : AF-S
    Flash Setting                   : Normal
    Flash Type                      : 
    White Balance Fine Tune         : 0
    Program Shift                   : 0
    Exposure Difference             : 0
    Compression                     : JPEG (old-style)
    Preview Image Start             : 2544
    Preview Image Length            : 25775
    Flash Exposure Compensation     : 0
    ISO Setting                     : 200
    Image Boundary                  : 0 0 3008 2000
    Flash Exposure Bracket Value    : 0.0
    Exposure Bracket Value          : 0
    Tone Comp                       : Normal
    Lens Type                       : G VR
    Lens                            : 18-200mm f/3.5-5.6
    Flash Mode                      : Did Not Fire
    AF Area Mode                    : Dynamic Area
    AF Point                        : Center
    AF Points Used                  : Center
    Shooting Mode                   : Single-Frame
    Auto Bracket Release            : None
    Color Hue                       : Mode2
    Light Source                    : Natural
    Hue Adjustment                  : 0
    Noise Reduction                 : Off
    WB RGBG Levels                  : 376 256 626 256
    Lens Data Version               : 0101
    AF Aperture                     : 3.6
    Focus Position                  : 0x55
    Focus Distance                  : 2.24 m
    Lens ID Number                  : 139
    Lens F Stops                    : 5.33
    Min Focal Length                : 18.3mm
    Max Focal Length                : 201.6mm
    Max Aperture At Min Focal       : 3.6
    Max Aperture At Max Focal       : 5.7
    MCU Version                     : 141
    Effective Max Aperture          : 3.6
    Sensor Pixel Size               : 7.8 x 7.8 um
    Serial Number                   : No= 10016b1d
    Image Data Size                 : 2134089
    [COLOR="Red"][b]Shutter Count                   : 2700[/b][/COLOR]
    Image Optimization              : Custom
    Vari Program                    : 
    User Comment                    : 
    Sub Sec Time                    : 80
    Sub Sec Time Original           : 80
    Sub Sec Time Digitized          : 80
    Flashpix Version                : 0100
    Color Space                     : Uncalibrated
    Exif Image Width                : 3008
    Exif Image Length               : 2000
    Interoperability Index          : R03 - DCF option file (Adobe RGB)
    Interoperability Version        : 0100
    Sensing Method                  : One-chip color area
    File Source                     : Digital Camera
    Scene Type                      : Directly photographed
    CFA Pattern                     : [Blue,Green][Green,Red]
    Custom Rendered                 : Normal
    Exposure Mode                   : Auto
    Digital Zoom Ratio              : 1
    Focal Length In 35mm Format     : 27
    Scene Capture Type              : Standard
    Gain Control                    : None
    Contrast                        : Normal
    Saturation                      : Normal
    Sharpness                       : Soft
    Subject Distance Range          : Unknown (0)
    Gamma                           : 2.2
    Thumbnail Offset                : 28460
    Thumbnail Length                : 8797
    Image Width                     : 3008
    Image Height                    : 2000
    Aperture                        : 3.5
    Blue Balance                    : 2.445313
    Image Size                      : 3008x2000
    Lens ID                         : AF-S DX VR Zoom-Nikkor 18-200mm f/3.5-5.6G IF-ED
    Lens                            : 18-200mm f/3.5-5.6 G VR
    Preview Image                   : (Binary data 25775 bytes, use -b option to extract)
    Red Balance                     : 1.46875
    Scale Factor To 35mm Equivalent : 1.5
    Shutter Speed                   : 0.3
    Thumbnail Image                 : (Binary data 8797 bytes, use -b option to extract)
    Circle Of Confusion             : 0.020 mm
    Depth of Field                  : 2.80 m (1.51 - 4.31)
    Focal Length                    : 18.0mm (35mm equivalent: 27.0mm)
    Hyperfocal Distance             : 4.62 m
    LV                              : 4.2
    Date/Time Original              : 2008:01:01 16:02:15.80
    
    It's too bad the D70 resets at 10K - I'm assuming I'm at 12700 actuations, but I'm not 100% sure (I don't think I could be at at 22700 yet...).
     
  7. OreoCookie macrumors 68030

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    For people who prefer GUI apps, there is a free app called EXIF Viewer who does just that and nothing else. Did I mention it's free? ;) :)

    Are you sure the D70's counter resets? It didn't on mine (these are just partial EXIF data):
    Code:
    File name:	DSC_6711.JPG
    	File size:	2698409 bytes (3008x2000, 3.6bpp, 7x)
    	EXIF Summary:	1/400s f/5.6 ISO200 70mm (35mm eq:105mm) 
    
    Camera-Specific Properties:
    
    	Equipment Make:	NIKON CORPORATION
    	Camera Model:	NIKON D70
    	Camera Software:	Ver.2.00
    	Maximum Lens Aperture:	f/4.4
    	Sensing Method:	One-Chip Color Area
    	Color Filter Array Pattern:	824
    	Focal Length (35mm Equiv):	105 mm
    	Serial Number:	30011288
    
    Image-Specific Properties:
    
    	Image Orientation:	Right-Hand, Top
    	Image Created:	2007:05:05 09:59:39
    	Exposure Time:	1/400 sec
    	F-Number:	f/5.6
    	Exposure Program:	Aperture Priority
    	Exposure Bias:	0 EV
    	Metering Mode:	Pattern
    	Light Source:	Unknown
    	Flash:	No Flash
    	Focal Length:	70.00 mm
    	Color Space Information:	sRGB
    	Image Width:	3008
    	Image Height:	2000
    	Rendering:	Normal
    	Exposure Mode:	Auto
    	Scene Capture Type:	Standard
    	Gain Control:	None
    	Contrast:	Soft
    	Sharpness:	Normal
    	Subject Distance Range:	Unknown
    	ISO Speed Used:	200
    	Image Quality:	FINE
    	White Balance:	AUTO
    	Image Sharpening:	AUTO
    	Focus Mode:	AF-S
    	Color Mode:	Portrait sRGB
    	Noise Reduction:	OFF
    	[b]Camera Actuations:	18080[/b]
     
  8. Westside guy macrumors 601

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    There are always local laws that may affect this sort of thing - but generally speaking warranties are not transferable (with the specific exception of items purchased as a gift). A vendor can certainly have a more liberal policy than this; but that does appear to be Nikon's position.
     
  9. Westside guy macrumors 601

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    Hmm... the Mac version, at least, appears to only show you a few of the EXIF fields - and shutter count is not one of them
     
  10. OreoCookie macrumors 68030

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    Are you sure you haven't exported the file (that includes dragging and dropping from Aperture)? If I do that, a lot of the EXIF data gets lost in the process.

    BTW, the app cannot read NEF files.
     
  11. Westside guy macrumors 601

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    Yeah, I used the exact same file I ran exiftool on (a few posts up). It was dragged straight off the camera.

    If you are seeing shutter actuations when you run it... perhaps it just doesn't grok the D70's EXIF data (although I ran it on a JPEG for maximum compatibility)?
     
  12. OreoCookie macrumors 68030

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    No, that should work. The (partial) EXIF data are also from a D70. Are you sure you've downloaded this app? (There is a Windows app called EXIF Viewer, too, but it has nothing to do with this one.)
     
  13. Westside guy macrumors 601

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    Interesting... I was just going by what's posted earlier in this thread.

    When I added up all my trashed images (I tend to throw away anything I know I'll never use) plus what's been in my iPhoto + Aperture libraries, I was over 2700 - so I just assumed the earlier "resets at 9999" was correct (although my personal guesstimate on my camera's shutter was more of the order of 5-6K, to be honest).

    I wonder if flashing the firmware could have reset it? I'm a little leery of trying it again just to find out though - too many things can go wrong. :D

    BTW I guess my other post about "not understanding the D70" doesn't make sense, given that you have a D70 as well... :p
     
  14. OreoCookie macrumors 68030

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    Truth be told, I had. I sold it after I had seen the D80's viewfinder: instant love. But I knew the D70 had more than 10k actuations, so I checked its EXIF data (my D80 should have about 6k now).
     
  15. Westside guy macrumors 601

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    Ha! I had entered "exif viewer" in VersionTracker. The folks that created the Windows app had apparently ported it to OS X several years ago (old PPC binary). That's the one that shows limited info.

    The app you've linked to is universal/fat, and it shows everything - thanks! Too bad it doesn't support RAW; although taking a JPEG for this purpose isn't particularly onerous.
     
  16. SLC Flyfishing macrumors 65816

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    Usually just the name of the file will tell you what number that picture is. At least it's that way on my camera, I'd assume it's the same on other ones too. I have something like p9877.jpg as my file name signifying that it was the 9877th shutter cycle.

    SLC
     
  17. termina3 macrumors 65816

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    When you format on a Nikon it resets the shot sequence back to 1.
     
  18. GoCubsGo macrumors Nehalem

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    Oh serious? How silly of me!
     

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