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BERLIN: Here's why

By the words of Pascal Cagni (head of Apple Europe):
Dear Developer,
We would like to invite you to Berlin to watch Steve Jobs keynote live from the Worldwide Developers Conference in San Francisco. We have chosen Berlin as our location following our first "Live from San Francisco" event held in Paris in January which was a great success. Berlin, the new capital of Germany has experienced much change and enjoyed an influx of investment since the fall of the wall making it one of the fastest changing capitals in Europe today. Our German market has one of our largest customer bases in Europe and is home to an increasing number of Mac OS X developers. Berlin, Germany - The perfect place to celebrate WWDC Live!
We'd like you to join us at the Axica to watch Steve's keynote, learn more about our announcements at the Apple Product Showcase and enjoy a night full of surprises. On Tuesday 24th we will be holding a special briefing at the Intercontinental Hotel and offering you the chance to see more of Berlin

I wonder whether the "night full of surprises" refers to new products or the topless dancers that.... oh well ;-)
 
Re: BERLIN: Here's why

Originally posted by dekator
By the words of Pascal Cagni (head of Apple Europe):
Dear Developer,
We would like to invite you to Berlin to watch Steve Jobs keynote live from the Worldwide Developers Conference in San Francisco. We have chosen Berlin as our location following our first "Live from San Francisco" event held in Paris in January which was a great success. Berlin, the new capital of Germany has experienced much change and enjoyed an influx of investment since the fall of the wall making it one of the fastest changing capitals in Europe today. Our German market has one of our largest customer bases in Europe and is home to an increasing number of Mac OS X developers. Berlin, Germany - The perfect place to celebrate WWDC Live!
We'd like you to join us at the Axica to watch Steve's keynote, learn more about our announcements at the Apple Product Showcase and enjoy a night full of surprises. On Tuesday 24th we will be holding a special briefing at the Intercontinental Hotel and offering you the chance to see more of Berlin

I wonder whether the "night full of surprises" refers to new products or the topless dancers that.... oh well ;-)
free lapdances from the berlin house of whores, or maybe a preview of panther....

iJon
 
RE: Berlin: Here's Why.

It doesn't hurt that Germany is also the strongest and largest economy in the EU.
 
A dose of reality

I have a coworker in my office who works part time at an Apple Store in the Phoenix Metro area (we have two Apple Stores in our area, one in Chandler and one in Downtown Phoenix at the Biltmore Fashion Park). I won't be more specific than that because I don't want to get anyone in trouble.

First off, Apple is often in the habit of shipping products in boxes that say "Do not open before XX date." The box might contain cables, or it might contain new hardware. You never know. My coworker told me that Apple does this to make sure that certain products hit the shelves at the same time everywhere, regardless of what that product is, and it's nothing special. The only reason people are making a big deal in this case is because of the timing.

So, is something big coming at WWDC? Hard to say, but all signs tentatively point to yes. My coworker told me this morning that he just found out some insider info which he would not elaborate on because he'd lose his job with the Apple Store. All he would say is that something big was coming, and that I would be happy. So that could mean anything. But if he says I'm going to be happy, then whatever is coming is going to be cool. So I have faith. But I'm not automatically assuming PPC 970 hardware is coming out next week, and neither should you.
 
Re: A dose of reality

Originally posted by LionMage
I have a coworker in my office who works part time at an Apple Store in the Phoenix Metro area (we have two Apple Stores in our area, one in Chandler and one in Downtown Phoenix at the Biltmore Fashion Park). I won't be more specific than that because I don't want to get anyone in trouble.

First off, Apple is often in the habit of shipping products in boxes that say "Do not open before XX date." The box might contain cables, or it might contain new hardware. You never know. My coworker told me that Apple does this to make sure that certain products hit the shelves at the same time everywhere, regardless of what that product is, and it's nothing special. The only reason people are making a big deal in this case is because of the timing.

So, is something big coming at WWDC? Hard to say, but all signs tentatively point to yes. My coworker told me this morning that he just found out some insider info which he would not elaborate on because he'd lose his job with the Apple Store. All he would say is that something big was coming, and that I would be happy. So that could mean anything. But if he says I'm going to be happy, then whatever is coming is going to be cool. So I have faith. But I'm not automatically assuming PPC 970 hardware is coming out next week, and neither should you.

I hope it's OK that I "crosspost" this from the newer "last minute rumors" thread:

http://www.marketwatch.com/news/yho...o&guid={786058C6-9E65-4E84-AD0D-9506B7C5E7C6}

This article indictates new 970 PowerMacs
next Monday.
 
Re: RE: Berlin: Here's Why.

Originally posted by daveL
It doesn't hurt that Germany is also the strongest and largest economy in the EU.

No, Germany has maybe the worst economy in Europe atm. Before the euro it was strong, but currently it is suffering. I think France is one one of the strongest eurozone countries.
 
Originally posted by JoeRadar
Given Apple's hype for Monday (even ignoring the chatter on the rumor sites)...
What hype?

Maybe you mean the but news on their website? Or possibly the press releases? Or the use of many people in major cities passing out information in strange and unusual formats? No, wait, its the big posters in the retail stores, right? Or the ads in USA Today?

What? You don't know what I'm talking about? Well, that's alright, because neither does Apple. Seriously, other than a few developer-targeted mailings, WWDC has hardly been hyped. At least, it hasn't been hyped by Apple.

Does this mean that nothing major is coming? Of course not. I am hoping, as are (I believe) most avid mac fans, that Monday's keynote has many wonderful things to say about the new slew of fast machines. That doesn't mean that I would claim that Apple has hyped the event, however. They haven't made any real claims outside of a few fairly isolated mentions (compared to what a PR blitz should be). Maybe they'll do one later this week?

Sorry if that's a disappointment to you... but it does seem to match reality.

-Richard
 
Re: Re: RE: Berlin: Here's Why.

Originally posted by Blackcat
No, Germany has maybe the worst economy in Europe atm. Before the euro it was strong, but currently it is suffering. I think France is one one of the strongest eurozone countries.

A little glance at pwcglobal.com (Price WaterhouseCooper) for projected GDP growth will soon set you right there.... France is another of the "semi-sick men" of Europe right now, and both economically and demographically looks fair set to crawl along like a wounded animal for a while yet. Pensions funding , healthcare and other Public spending policies are, as usual, the unaddressed bogeymen....

Sorry for the OT, but I can't understand WHERE your idea about France came from.
 
Re: Re: Re: RE: Berlin: Here's Why.

Originally posted by Geetar
A little glance at pwcglobal.com (Price WaterhouseCooper) for projected GDP growth will soon set you right there.... France is another of the "semi-sick men" of Europe right now, and both economically and demographically looks fair set to crawl along like a wounded animal for a while yet. Pensions funding , healthcare and other Public spending policies are, as usual, the unaddressed bogeymen....

Sorry for the OT, but I can't understand WHERE your idea about France came from.

I live in Europe and know lots of real people. Forget analyst mumbo-jumbo, they only serve themselves and frequently predict things will get better/worse but they don't.

Back on topic: if half these European reports are true it's a good thing. Mac market share is well over 3% here (I've seen 12% quoted for the UK but that seems a bit high).
 
Re: Re: RE: Berlin: Here's Why.

Originally posted by Blackcat
No, Germany has maybe the worst economy in Europe atm. Before the euro it was strong, but currently it is suffering. I think France is one one of the strongest eurozone countries.

This is hilarious ! I'm almost pissing in my pants. Ever since the Brits started discussing the Euro issue, they've come up with this nonsense. Germany is still the strongest economy in Europe, and no mistake. (You can check at a million places on the net).
The Euro has nothing to do with it at all. Yes, Germany's economy is in a slump, but had very small growth rates even before the Euro. Actually, right after the introduction of the Euro, unemployment went down and growth went up. But this wasn't followed by the neccessary reforms (structural). If anything, the Euro has done a lot of good to Germany (e.g. it has reduced administrative costs tremendously). But yes, German economy is doing very badly. That, however, doesn't mean it isn't still the biggest (GNP wise etc.) in Europe.
 
Re: Re: Re: Re: RE: Berlin: Here's Why.

Originally posted by Blackcat
I live in Europe and know lots of real people. Forget analyst mumbo-jumbo, they only serve themselves and frequently predict things will get better/worse but they don't.

Back on topic: if half these European reports are true it's a good thing. Mac market share is well over 3% here (I've seen 12% quoted for the UK but that seems a bit high).

Thanks for the heads up on "reality" .....I AM an analyst (or is that an anal-ist?) and also a Limey only recently out of London. I think I've still got a toe-hold on real life ;)

Back on topic: Yes, 12% is WAY high...5-6% seems more like it. That will improve very soon, I think.
 
Re: Re: Re: Re: oxymoron - "64-bit consumer"

Originally posted by clarkcox3
Actually no, for the longest time, you had to use horrendous hacks to get PCs to use more then 640 KB of memory. The origional Macs had a 128K and 512K limit respectively, not 640K. After that, no Mac shipped with less than 1MB.

Sorry, I wasn't trying to imply that the Mac ever had 640K. My point was that I didn't think Bill Gates every said "you'll never need more than x", but that it was Steve refering to the original Mac. I had in my mind that he said 128k, but I couldn't believe that was correct. I can't find the exact quote but as I remember it he looked back with a rueful realisation that it wasn't a very good idea.

After a quick Google, I found these that imply that Steve did have that sort of attitude, although it suggests that he didn't want people to expand rather than they didn't need.

From: http://www.woz.org/letters/pirates/03.html

WOZ:Steve Jobs felt that the early Mac should be very closed to have good control over what it was and did. But that left oversights like memory expansion. So the 128K 'first' Mac had to soon be replaced by the 512K model (as RAM prices dropped).

From http://www.mackido.com/Innovation/OpenCases.html

Rumor is that Steve got wind of this and so had Mac128 motherboards "hole-punched". Basically they drilled holes through the motherboard to ruin it for ever upgrading it beyond 128K of RAM. If you wanted to upgrade, you could do a motherboard swap -- and pay Apple mighty heavily.

All that being said, the Google search also showed I was wrong anyway:

http://www.cha4mot.com/q_cha.html

640K ought to be enough [computer memory] for anybody.
Bill Gates, 1981

Oh well...

Sanj
 
Now it's official

So, is something big coming at WWDC? Hard to say, but all signs tentatively point to yes

Well, now it's official (more or less) with Apple's leak. Scepticism is a good thing but with even official retail stores *announcing* new PowerMacs... well, I think the G5 is a safe bet.
 
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: clearly a fake

Originally posted by dekator
As for the UK, I hardly consider them to be European anymore. If the UK takes the Euro or not, frankly, I couldn't care less. But Sweden, now, those used to be reasonable, nice ppl :)

BTW, "UK of A" that's superb (ich lach' mich rund und kugelig). :D :D :D

hey man, I'm British and I consider myself thoroughly European. don't tar us all with the same brush.:(
 
A new definition of "European"........

Any nation prepared to say:

"I agree with the Germans and French about.............." Fill in the dots.:rolleyes:

Dekator:The line that the Brits aren't Europeans because they didn't want to play "Euro-Chauvinist" with the French and Germans was officially retired at least 15 years ago. Do grow up.

Again sorry for the OT.
 
I bet there is going to be a new powermac with only one cd drive, and 3 pci slots. Not to mention two measley hard drive expansion thingies.
 
Originally posted by Pete_Hoover
I bet there is going to be a new powermac with only one cd drive, and 3 pci slots. Not to mention two measley hard drive expansion thingies.


WTF.

Pete, you are aware that this has already been released, right? Or is the posting system THIS slow? Surely not...
 
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