Sonos Debuts New In-Wall, In-Ceiling, and Outdoor Speakers With AirPlay 2 Support

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    Audio company Sonos today announced a new range of speakers called "Sonos Architectural by Sonance," which are a collection of passive speakers that are designed for both indoor and outdoor use. There are three new speakers total: the Sonos In-Ceiling, Sonos In-Wall, and Sonos Outdoor Speaker.

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    As their names imply, the first two speakers are designed to be placed within the walls or ceilings of your home, sitting flush with each surface. Sonos says it worked with Sonance to make sure each speaker blends into any space while still providing the clear sound, even coverage, and performance expected of a Sonos device.
    These connect with Sonos Amp to use the company's "TruePlay" feature that detects the size, construction, furnishings, and more of a room and adjust the EQ for optimal sound. Sonos notes that TruePlay will only be available for the In-Wall and In-Ceiling speakers.

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    For the Outdoor speaker, Sonos says this is its first device specifically built for outdoor use, featuring a weatherproof build that was engineered to withstand various environmental conditions. The Outdoor speaker can also be installed on walls, but it does protrude from the surface unlike the In-Wall speaker.

    The In-Ceiling, In-Wall, and Outdoor speakers all support AirPlay 2 and Apple Music streaming, like existing Sonos speakers.

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    Sonos Outdoor


    The In-Ceiling and In-Wall speakers are priced at $599 for a pair of each, while the Outdoor speaker costs $799 for a pair. The two Sonos Architectural speakers are available for pre-order today and will launch on February 26, while the Outdoor speaker will not be available until April.

    Sonos today also announced that the updated Sonos Amp is now available for purchase in Australia, Canada, and Mexico, and it will launch in Europe on February 12. During its original launch last year, the new Sonos Amp was only available in the United States.

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  2. mpshay macrumors 6502

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    How does a passive speaker “support AirPlay 2”? I know the new Sonos amp supports AirPlay 2, but if you are using that amp then any speakers you connect to it would work with AirPlay
     
  3. SqB macrumors 6502

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    Wow, seems pretty spendy for some passive speakers that still need you to buy a Sonos Amp to make them work. How many are going to miss that little detail when ordering?
     
  4. Marcus PM macrumors member

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    Thank you for pointing that out. One rather small (large) detail many might overlook.
     
  5. codyliger macrumors newbie

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    Claiming they support airplay and Apple Music is misleading. All they did was partner with a speaker company for passive speakers. Am I missing something? Do a pair of these speakers include an amp?
     
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    When you have to rip your speakers out of the wall because you bought a bigger TV.
     
  7. steve knight macrumors 68020

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    I don't think they are passive. it says they can work with Sonos amp. I think ti is saying they can group with it for more options on how the sound is played.
     
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    Although I wouldn’t want to destroy my walls in order to install these, it would be amazing with a Dolby Atmos setup
     
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    I personally think you are comparing apples to oranges (with the exception of the HomePod). The Echo, Dot and Google Homes are smart devices first, speakers second. Sonos is the opposite, only implementing smart speakers if desired. And they are also in the high end market, not (pardon me) the toy market. I get that some of the higher end Amazon devices produce "quality" sound, but none on par with Sonos. I am not setting up two Echos or Echo Dots to power my surround sound.
     
  12. hobocamp456 macrumors member

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    So Sonos speakers that now require you to wire them in and are still ridiculously pricey. No thanks. One of the biggest selling points of Sonos is that you don’t need to wire them in
     
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    Does it come with the amp? Otherwise, they don’t support AirPlay more than any other speaker.
     
  14. hobocamp456 macrumors member

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    Nope. That’s another $599, which is ridiculous
     
  15. ChromeAce macrumors regular

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    Saying these speakers support AirPlay 2 is like saying my mother could be a wagon, if she had wheels. Any speaker connected to the Sonos amp can be used, as that functionality is inside the Amp not the speaker.
     
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    I guess it depends on your disposable income. :rolleyes: The amp video sounds interesting. Is it a better deal than using a separate receiver and a connect? I can buy a denon that has 1295W total power RMS Rating of 185W x 9 @ 6 ohms, 1kHz, 10% THD, for $579 that has a lot more functionality if I am going to use wired speakers. Why not use it and a connect instead of their amp?
     
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    Pretty sure they are passive...
     
  18. mpshay macrumors 6502

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    After posting this comment, I went and looked at Sonos’s site for the new speakers and can’t anywhere that they claim AirPlay 2 support. They mention numerous times how the new speakers will work with their amp so I assume the AirPlay 2 comment came from the post author and not directly from Sonos
     
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    It all depends on how they sound. These may be a reasonable price once we get to hear them. One advantage will be that the sonic profile should be consistent with the rest of the Sonos line.
     
  20. Led-zep macrumors member

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    Think a lot of people don't get what these are for.

    Eg my house. I have a pair of in ceiling Bose speakers which wire back to a Sonos connect amp.

    These are outside in an alfresco area we use to entertain.

    Why not just got a play one outside you say? Well that's not weather proof plus it has to be plugged into power.

    By using a set of passive speakers + amp I can use Sonos app to send music outside without seeing any speakers.

    Looks fantastic and I always get asked where the music is coming from.
     
  21. Beerstalker macrumors 6502

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    No I think pretty much everyone here understands exactly.

    Do you claim your Bose in ceiling speakers are Airplay 2 compatible? Because that is pretty much what is happening here. These are just passive in wall/ceiling speakers hooked up to an amp that is Airplay 2 compatible. Nothing about the speakers themselves has anything to do with Airplay 2. Only the amp deals with Airplay 2 compatibility.

    For these speakers to truly be Airplay 2 compatible they would have an amplifier and bluetooth/WiFi built in to talk to your home router. They would need to be battery powered or hook up to an AC power source inside your wall/ceiling. I think a lot of people would be interested in that, but that is not what these speakers are.
     
  22. Led-zep macrumors member

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    Did I claim my setup was airplay 2 compatible..no

    There are zero, yes zero in ceiling and in wall speakers that are not passive. If you can find any that can be installed inside a wall that don’t require a amp to drive I’ll be happy to concede.

    All this is mainly for the installer market as opposed to general public. Eg someone wanting to fit out a new home with a multi speaker solution these are great.
     
  23. cwanja macrumors 6502a

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    They still are selling their standard wireless (with the exception of power) speakers. This just an additional product line.
     
  24. SigurTom macrumors member

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    Right, you're not claiming your passive Bose speakers are Airplay compatible, but Sonos is claiming theirs are. That's the conversation. Nobody is wondering "why do in-wall speakers exist".
     

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