A while back they used to be very premium, I'd assume that hasn't change. I'll try them out and if the speakers doesn't work out I'll return them. That being said besides parroting everyone, why do you personally think they are bad? It seems they have fixed the app issue, and besides forcing you to sign in I don't see anything wrong with it.Where did you hear such thing? It’s overpriced and underwhelming. And lately it’s been widely criticised for its software issues to the point the CEO had to resign.