Sonos One, Playbase, and Play:5 Will Support AirPlay 2 Functionality

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    When Sonos introduced the new Sonos One back in October, the company confirmed it would add AirPlay 2 support to Sonos speakers later in 2018.

    At the time, Sonos did not specify which of its devices would support the new protocol, but Sonos has offered some clarification in the form of a new blog post that includes AirPlay 2 details.

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    According to Sonos, native AirPlay 2 support will be available on the Playbase, the newest version of the Play:5, and the Sonos One.

    Older Sonos speakers will not support AirPlay 2 on their own due to processor limitations, but they can be paired with the Playbase, the Play:5, or the Sonos One to enable AirPlay 2 functionality. A Sonos Play:1 grouped with a Sonos One, for example, will support AirPlay 2.
    Apple thus far has not released AirPlay 2, despite the fact that it was first introduced as a feature of iOS 11 back in June of 2017. AirPlay 2 functionality was initially included in iOS 11.3 and tvOS 11.3 betas, but it was pulled ahead of the release of those updates.

    AirPlay 2 functionality is now included in iOS 11.4 and tvOS 11.4, but it is not yet clear if the features will be included in the final version of the software.

    Article Link: Sonos One, Playbase, and Play:5 Will Support AirPlay 2 Functionality
     
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    Indeed. I hate the sonos app, so using airplay 2 will be nice.
     
  4. DeepIn2U macrumors 601

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    Not entirely not for those of us that wish to keep their existing Play:1's and NOT have to spend more for a 'AI connected' device just to get AirPlay 2 support. Ive already paid $400CAN for a limited edition super all black Play:1 (gril and everything, not the silver+black).

    I'll be selling mine next week and will use headphones until something better comes along.

    HomePod - lowered prices?
    B&O M5 - support AirPlay 2?

    EDIT: B&O Beoplay M5 will support AirPlay 2 ... proper communication from the get go unlike Sonos. Plus better sound quality, no snooping! Just the way I like it!
    Official: https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...irplay-2.pdf&usg=AOvVaw0WLSv1sp1LQ_ODpaf-TQTC
     
  5. hank moody macrumors 6502a

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    I dont know if this is a stupid question but, why do you want airplay 2 if you only have one speaker?
     
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    What????? That's the final straw. I'm moving to Bluesound.
     
  7. Westside guy macrumors 603

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    Cool, maybe I'll get a Sonos One now.

    ... or maybe I'll wait for Apple to slash the price of the HomePod to $199. :p
     
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  9. FX120 macrumors 65816

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    Why would you expect a 5 year old device to get Airplay 2 support in the first place?

    Sell it and just get a One, it will look and sound the same and if you don't want to use the voice assistant stuff just turn off the mic. If you have a limited edition Play:1 I'm sure you can sell it for more than what a new One will cost.
     
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    To be fair, it's looking like the AirPort Express, a 6-year-old device may get AP2 support. Though, @hank moody did bring up a good point. Why the need for AP2 if you only have one speaker?
     
  11. nuckinfutz macrumors 603

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    Sonos speakers need Airplay because their primary weakness is a lack of Bluetooth. Thus it's harder to stream web content to Sonos speakers when all of the competitors offer Bluetooth for ease of use.
     
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    Bluesound sounds way better, but I still don’t entirely understand this post.
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    I’m very glad AirPlay 2 seems to be inching toward reality, but I also wish Apple would allow devices like Bluesound to natively play Apple Music (i.e., through the Bluesound app).
     
  13. nuckinfutz macrumors 603

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    Guess I kind of figured the Playbar was going to be covered. I'll have to scratch that from the buying list but I do like the Play 5 2nd Gen. That's still in the hunt.

    Most of the audio vendors should be able to update their apps with MusicKit so that I can stream my AM encrypted music. It's all coming together.
     
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    Ah, got it, thanks. I haven’t heard of MusicKit, but it sounds like what I had in mind. Hope we’ll see some widespread adoption soon.

    Play 5 is great but definitely try Bluesound if you aren’t locked into Sonos already. For audio quality, it delivers.
     
  15. nuckinfutz macrumors 603

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    That's good to hear. I only got a chance to listen to the Bluesound line one at a Magnolia and I thought the large Pulse sounded great. I was still all set to build a complete Sonos system including Sonos Amp but a couple of things delayed me.

    • Having to find AC sockets for 3-4 Connect Amps and space
    • Getting more interested in Roon (roonlabs.com) as my primary audio playback software.
    • NAD CI 580 4-zone preamp with BlueOS that doesn't cost a vital organ
    Gonna keep my existing Sonos but Bluesound is one to watch. Just found out the Lutron Audio Pico now works with Bluesound as well and i'm going Lutron for my smart lights.

    Life's good.
     
  16. Blakjack macrumors 68000

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    REALLY good news for us Sonos One owners who want to use the speakers with Apple TV. Horrible news for the Homepod. Again another reason for folks to buy the Sonos One over the homepod. Cheaper speaker with just as good sound, smarter speaker system, compatible with more smart devices, and will be able to synch with my apple Tv in the near future. #Winner
     
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    Because AirPlay 2 is software based, not hardware. The only reason Sonos is going this route is to attempt to sell new devices. Unfortunately they are taking a chance of alienating all of their existing customers.
     
  18. robbieleffel macrumors newbie

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    Imma need y’all genius types to hack the Play:1 to enable Airplay 2. K? Thanks.
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    So you can use the built-in iPhone music player and not the garbage Sonos player app.
     
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    Does the Sonos not support AP1?
     
  20. robbieleffel macrumors newbie

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    Nope.
     
  21. vipergts2207 macrumors 68000

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    Wow, Sonos sucks.
     
  22. wbrat macrumors regular

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    I’m dissapointed with the AP2 support list. They really need to add at least AP1 to older speakers!! I hoped for this update but now I’m thinking about switching to something different...
     
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    Pretty sure AP1 was hardware based, so that’s not a possibility. Lack of AP1 makes me wonder why Sonos was ever popular with Apple users.
     
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    Hadn't heard that about the Lutron Pico, but probably worth checking out as I already have some Caseta switches in my listening room. Seems like we're after a lot of the same things.
     
  25. JamesLeSmash macrumors newbie

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    This is a real stab-in-the-back for customers that have been with Sonos for a while. Here’s why...with the below configuration:
    Room 1: 2x Play:1’s & HomePod
    Room 2: 1x Play:1
    Room3: 1x Play:1

    If want to integrate AP2 in Room 1 then I need to buy a One (or better) which would result in two smart speakers in one room...pointless. Then for every additional room I need to buy a One to bring it onto AP2.

    Given that I don’t want Alexa in my house, I feel like my only Sonos option really is to get a Play:5 & put that in Room 1 (moving one of the 1’s elsewhere) & accepting that only one room will have AP2 (because of the 5 price point).

    I’m also assuming that I’ll be able to say “Hey siri, play Britney Spears in Room 1”...if I can’t do this then for me personally there is almost no point...I don’t hate the Sonos app THAT much...
     

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