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Sony killing 80GB PS3, introducing 120GB or 160GB model with Dual Shock 3

GFLPraxis said:
I'd better clarify before someone shouts "The 360's not getting more expensive!" :)

The ever increasing price of XBox 360 SKUs. They keep adding higher more expensive models instead of bettering or dropping the price on the standard.
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Yup, just like that new rumored Xbox that was like a DVR! :D

Jovian9 said:
My NES works without rumble too but we're not talking about 8-bit here. What year is this? ;)
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:D nice. I don't mind not having rumble, half the time I don't really notice it. It will be nice to have rumble later on but I really don't need it or care at all.
 
ReanimationLP said:
Yeah, the profit margins are quite huge because of the technology it uses.

The Broadway CPU is an offshoot of the PowerPC 750CL, aka G3.

Then again, why bother, since its selling like hotcakes anyhoo at the current price.

It'd be neat of Sony though if they made a model that you can fit more RAM into, for those who want to use it for Linux, and for the universities building clusters out of them.
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Well, there's something to be said for miniaturization costing more as well, it's just a huge ripoff.

The thing is that Nintendo was selling the system for a small profit at launch.

1 year down the road, they're probably making a huge profit. But it makes absolutely no financial sense to a corporation to drop the price when every single one that hits shelves sells.

The moment Wii's stop selling out at every store, Nintendo'll drop the price to $200, I'm sure. They could probably do that and still be making a small profit, I'd estimate, though I don't have access to any data to know for sure.
 
Ubuntu said:
But you could argue that Sony copied Microsoft with the hardware options, as well as the hard drive.
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If you want to argue technicalities, an external drive was available for the PS2 before the XBox launched. Microsoft was just the first to internalize it. And Sony was the first to make it user-replaceable with a non-proprietary interface (SATA). :)


And if you'll recall, the PS2 was available in Fat, Slim, and "Ultimate" editions (the "Ultimate" being the PSX that was only released in Japan, that had a big hard drive, DVR functionality, and a DVD burner).

But wait! The Nintendo 64 DD (also released in Japan only) had a hard drive before the PS2.

Darn Nintendo and their time machine, always copying Microsoft.

I love technicalities.
 
i'm i the only one loosing track with all the different models with the ps3 and 360 ? ... why can't they stick to one configuration from the beginning ... exchanging a bundled game .. ok that's fine but all this jumping... different controllers.. different ports... different sized hard disks... some wireless some not.. some card reader...some bundled with component cables..others only with composite.. some with head set

i really hope they learn their lesson for the next time ...
 
Damn Sony I just bought your 40gig, now I'm hearing I can get a 120 or 160gig? If it is going to be for the same 399$ price tag, im going to be kind of pissed.
 
^Why dude....you can always swap out the drive for a bigger one it doesn't really matter... I really hope this is the last change in SKUs for the 360 and PS3....its going get get real confusing if they continue.

I want that DS3 though.


Bless
 
GFLPraxis said:
If you want to argue technicalities, an external drive was available for the PS2 before the XBox launched. Microsoft was just the first to internalize it. And Sony was the first to make it user-replaceable with a non-proprietary interface (SATA). :)

And if you'll recall, the PS2 was available in Fat, Slim, and "Ultimate" editions (the "Ultimate" being the PSX that was only released in Japan, that had a big hard drive, DVR functionality, and a DVD burner).

But wait! The Nintendo 64 DD (also released in Japan only) had a hard drive before the PS2.

Darn Nintendo and their time machine, always copying Microsoft.

I love technicalities.
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The DD didnt have a hard drive.

It was a disk drive. :3 The drive works similarly to a Zip drive, and has an enhanced audio library for the games to use. Though the carts were shaped like the Syquest carts. Maybe it was based off of Syquest. Dunno.

Sony was the first company to announce a hard disk option for their console, back in late 1999/early 2000 when the PlayStation 2 was coming out.

It originally was going to have an internal IDE controller, one spot for a 3.5" hard disk, and one PCI slot. Then it got changed to one PCMCIA card slot for the first Japanese models (SCPH-10001 series).

Then they reworked the design between the Japanese launch and the US/Europe launches, ending up with SCPH-30001 (God knows where SCPH-20001 is), which changed the PCMCIA slot into a Dev9 slot, and an empty bay for a 3.5" hard disk drive.

The hard disk connected to the network adapter, then to the Dev9 adapter. Sony didnt actually ship the hard disk in the US until 2004, with Final Fantasy XI, or you could get it in 2002 with the Linux kit, but that one you couldnt use for PS2, just for Linux.

The hard disk was shipping in Japan since May of 2001, alongside the network adapter. 6 months before XBox was shipping. In Japan, a ton of games used it as a cache drive, to speed loading times by installing frequently used data to the drive. Also helped to cut down on the laser usage.

The hard drive was killed because of the whole HD Loader software, then it wasnt also selling well. Its a nifty option, if you have a old style fat PS2, and a Network Adapter, I recommend browsing your game stores for one. Its great, as you can copy all your saves off your memory card and onto your PS2. You can hold on the HD over 5,000 memory cards worth of data.
 
Jovian9 said:
My NES works without rumble too but we're not talking about 8-bit here. What year is this? ;)
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True, but it's not a necessity like you said. ;)
None of my games have rumble support and one demo I tried (Sega Rally Revo) was rumble non-stop. Actually made me not want to play it. (It has since been deleted.)
 
^ That's because it was pretty much just tacked onto Sega Rally Revo. Hopefully 'new' games will feature proper support for DS rumble.
 
asxtb said:
That could explain it. Because the rumble was too much. :(
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I know what you mean. It just feels like its on full blast all the time with no discernible difference between one thing or another.

It may be a problem with a lot of older games where patches are released, but until they emerge we won't know. :eek:
 
Zwhaler said:
Damn Sony I just bought your 40gig, now I'm hearing I can get a 120 or 160gig? If it is going to be for the same 399$ price tag, im going to be kind of pissed.
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I'm hearing the 40 Gig will be $399 still, the 160 Gig will replace the 80 Gig, but with only the 40 Gig features (no B/C, no card slots, 2 USB ports) and include a DS3 controller and game for $499.
 
2nyRiggz said:
^Why dude....you can always swap out the drive for a bigger one it doesn't really matter... I really hope this is the last change in SKUs for the 360 and PS3....its going get get real confusing if they continue.

I want that DS3 though.


Bless
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Ehh, I guess thats true, but now Im gonna have to go and buy new rumble controllers lol
 
Just proves to me that people are suckers that jump right in at the beginning. Everything gets better and cheaper if you can just hold out a bit. Not like the games from previous gen starting sucking all of a sudden. :) This is the first generation I've joined in within a year of launch and I slightly regret it.

Games are more, peripherals are more, etc. You wait, you get all the good library, half the cost or less, etc. I remember getting my Dreamcast and 15 games for like 60 bucks. Same for an old 64 about three years out from release. By the time I pick up a PS3 or reacquire a 360 they'll be cheap, have all the best controllers, games, etc. Will happily keep playing my Wii and Dreamcast till it's time ;)

Paul
 
gkarris said:
This may be old news to some...

But the 80 Gig PS3 bundled with MGS and a Dualshock 3 will be out in June.

A more awesome deal if you take advantage of Sony Credit Card's $100 rebate! (I got my PS3 40 Gig this way for $299).

http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs...10151&langId=-1&productId=8198552921665371946
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When you sign up for the Sony Credit Card, does the $100 come immediately off the PS3 price? I don't want to have to buy the PS3 at $400 then have a $100 gift card to Sony that I won't use.
 
wwooden said:
When you sign up for the Sony Credit Card, does the $100 come immediately off the PS3 price? I don't want to have to buy the PS3 at $400 then have a $100 gift card to Sony that I won't use.
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When I got my statement, it showed the SonyStyle purchase, then it showed the $100 credit for that purchase.

It was supposed to take up to 3 statements, but it seems they put it on the same one. :D
 
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