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Could you elaborate a bit on how this is better than bose qc35s? I've been planning to buy one of those...

After owning the QC35's since launch, I thought this would be an easy comparison with one clearly besting the other. So not the case and anyone's choice here is not necessarily an easy one.

Fit and comfort - The Bose are very light. The cups are big and will easily fully surround each ear. You hardly realize the headphones are on. That said, the Sony's are definitely comfortable as well and for me seem to make a tighter seal. For a day at the beach or using the headphones during a commute I might lean towards the QC35's as they are a bit lighter.

Connectivity - This one is easy. The QC35's ability to connect to multiple devices via Bluetooth and the ease at which they switch between devices makes them a clear winner here.

Noise Cancellation - This is technically a draw with the slight edge going to the Bose simply because you can hear the NC engaged on the Sony's when not listening to music.

Sound Quality - Here is where the rubber meets the road. The QC35's never sounded great to me at first listen. Over time I have gotten used to them. They tend to sound thin as if they were EQ'ed so that every instrument was given the exact presence in the mix. I've used sterile and seen clinical in describing the SQ. That seems to be a great word. You listen and hear the music but it never really engages you. It's all very flat. The highs also seem brittle. That said, I do like that the sound is not scooped in the mids.

The first thing that came to mind when listening to the MRX's was that they have that "Sony" sound. This is not necessarily a bad thing but it doesn't mean they sound neutral either. The sound is definitely more engaging and beefier. Here the mids are a bit scooped with the bass and treble having some more presence. Unlike the Bose, the Sony's are definitely engaging. The sound is there and if that mids were just given a little more edge these would be perfect..for me.

I did listen to the Sony's with NC turned off. I found them to sound better with NC On, especially at lower volumes.

Conclusions - If I was choosing between these without owning one or the other I would go with the Sony. SQ is the bottom line for me and they make up enough of what bugs me about the Bose to make them the easier choice. I own the QC35's and was thinking about selling them but now I'm not so sure. Listening to music on my phone in bed while reading my iPad and occasionally switching to YouTube is a snap with the Bose. The on/off switch is easily accessible and they feel great. Unless you are dissatisfied with the SQ of the QC35's the only real edge the Sony's have is in the Sound Dept, but make no mistake, there is a difference.
 
Great analysis. I think the interesting thing is that the Sony set just doesn't get all THAT loud. So it almost needs the NC to handle really loud environments. Not that I care much since I will basically always use the NC.
 
Great analysis. I think the interesting thing is that the Sony set just doesn't get all THAT loud. So it almost needs the NC to handle really loud environments. Not that I care much since I will basically always use the NC.


I'm going to live with the Sony's a week. I'm
Leaning towards staying Bose only. It's REALLY close.
 
I like the Bose, too. And I like how easy it is to switch Bluetooth devices with them. But I find just such a large sound difference between the two. That and the build quality feel advantage for Sony tips it to them for me.
 
I've used both of these and to me MDR-1000X is clear winner (my wife has QC35's and I bought Sony's). However, this is subjective matter since to me sound quality is most important part of head phones and in that department MDR-1000X is clear winner. The soundstage on MDR-1000X is more separated, the overall sound is tighter and cleaner.

Regarding NC they are very much even, meaning they are both excellent. If one must choose a winner on that front then I have to go with Sony since it seems to be mariginally better at filtering higher frequencies than Bose. Also the passive NC is better on Sony than with Bose. However, this is probably due to higher clamping force and harder padding which makes Sony's less comfortable than Bose. Sony's ambience NC features are nice and they work well which really is deciding factor for me. Also the custom NC setting seems to work very well on Sony's so again really can't make any complaints.

In reality there are only two fronts in which Bose is clearly performing better than Sony. Bose is more comfortable and easier to switch between the devices. I understand making Sony's more comfortable might be hard since part of its excellent NC is due to good passive NC which would probably suffer if clampping force is reduced or softer materials are used. However, the ability to switch devices on the fly should be easily doable and Sony should definitely implement this feature.

All in all, even if MDR-1000X's are better there is really no reason to switch from QC35's. The difference is there but IMHO the difference is not big enough to warrant a switch. However, if purchasing new ones I see only one reason to choose Bose over Sony. That's if you need to use headphones constantly over very long periods of time then in that case Bose might be better option. Even in that case your mileage may vary. For me Bose is more comfortable but even then Sony is comfortable enough to use on long haul flights and has better sound quality so there is really no point for me to choose Bose over Sony. One last point in favour of Sony is the built quality. Sony's feel solid, more premium and lack Bose's plasticy feel. IMHO MDR-1000X is the new king of the hill when it comes down to active NC headphones. Bose will definitely pay attention so we can most likely expect something exciting from Bose in the future. Finally we have a race! (and consumers will benefit from that)

EDIT: Apparently the version sold in Japan has ability to fast switch between the device/sound sources. WTF Sony?!? Why on earth would you remove this feature from export models?!?
 
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I've been A/B'ing all morning and except for the stronger bass of the Sony's the Bose have been edging ahead. Really torn on this one. If the Bose had stronger bass it would clearly be a winner.
 
On this help guide it says it's supports pairing with multiple devices:

http://helpguide.sony.net/mdr/1000x/v1/en/contents/TP0001176138.html

When you pair a 2nd or subsequent device (the headset has pairing information for other devices), press and hold the
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button for about 7 seconds.

  • The headset is already paired with 8 devices and another device is to be paired.
    The headset can be paired with up to 8 devices. If a new device is paired after 8 devices are already paired, the paired device with the oldest connection time is replaced by the new one.
Do this function not work? I was planning to buy these headphones next month.

Just to clarify, the Sony's do remember up to eight paired devices and will automatically pair to the nearest remembered device when you turn them on. What I can't seem to get them to do, is automatically switch the connection to whichever device is playing audio.

Say I've just been listening to a video playing to my Mac, and the video just ended. Now I pick up my iPhone and start playing a music track. The Bose and Sennheiser NC cans switch automatically to my iPhone without me having to do anything. But I can't get the Sony's to do this - I have to disconnect them via the Mac menu bar and then reconnect to my iPhone from the Bluetooth pairing list in Settings.

Hope that helps.
 
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The wireless headphone market has been shaken up so much recently that it's hard to know where to begin when a new entry appears on the stage and announces itself as the next big thing.

Fortunately this latest Bluetooth offering from Sony is targeting a very specific market segment best referred to as "premium noise cancelation", and the company seems pretty confident that with the MDR-1000X headphones ($400), it has got a hit on its hands.

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Sony is claiming "industry-leading noise cancelation" with these luxury cans, which use ostensibly the same drivers as last year's highly regarded MDR-1A headset made for listening to Hi-Res Audio, as supported by the company's audiophilic Walkman range, not to mention its line of wireless home speakers and in-car audio systems.

Can it improve upon the finely honed features of Parrot's Zik 3.0, Bose's QuietComfort 35, and Sennheiser's PXC 550 Wireless noise-canceling headphones? Let's take a look.


Click here to read more...

Article Link: Sony MDR-1000X Review: Wireless Hi-Res Headphones Offer Next-Level Noise Canceling
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Chinese made...Chinese designed ..Manufacturing cost ...under $5.00 overpriced at best.
 
Well, I spent a "few" hours comparing the two over the weekend and the Sony's are going back. Sound quality is a matter of taste and while the Sony's certainly feel more solid than the Bose, the QC35's have a more natural, less eq'ed sound than the Sony's and the comfort, ease of use and ability to switch on the fly between multiple devices give the QC35 the edge. I found the Sony's ANC to be distractingly loud, and the few extra bells and whistles were not enough to win me over. I wanted to like the Sony's more. Bluetooth tech will only get better so I'm sure a QC35 killer will come along soon.
 
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I've had the MDR-1000x and QC35 together for a little over a week now. I've owned the QC35 for a couple of months now and I picked up the Sonys a little over a week ago. I should also note that I have the New Bose QC30, as well as the Bose QC20i which I've had for a little over a year now. I will give you my ranking between the QC35 and MDR-1000x based on Sound, Comfort, Noise Cancelling, Features, and Design.

Sound:
This is really not close for me. The Sonys are Clearer, More Detailed, Tighter, More Musical, and Plays louder on my Ipad Pro and Iphone 6S Plus. It's honestly the best sounding Bluetooth headphone I've heard, just beating out my previous favorites, the Sennheiser Momentum 2.0 and V-Moda Crossfade Wireless. The only area where the Bose wins for me is in the Sound Stage. The QC35 does have a deeper and wider sound stage. Instruments for Acoustic music have more space around them. This can be good for some music, but causes more energetic music to sound kind of boring. I also like the Dynamic EQ on the QC35 that adjusts the EQ based on the volume. I find it useful in certain situations. Mainly when I'm in bed next to my wife at night watching or listening to something exciting on my iPad and I need to keep the volume lower. Keeps a level of excitement at the low volume.
(Winner - Sony)

Comfort:
The results here are different for me than many. I have small ears and I can wear both of these headphones for hours with no discomfort. The Sonys have a snug fit. Feels more secure on my head. The pads work better with my glasses than on the Bose. However, the Bose have wider openings in the ear cups that completely surround my ears. The padding on the headband of the Bose feels ever so slightly more comfortable. The thing with these headphones for me is I prefer the comfort of one over the other in different scenarios. If I'm sitting down at a desk, or on the couch, not doing much moving, Bose wins. You do forget you're wearing them. If I'm moving around, doing work around the house, or walking the dog, I prefer the Sony's as they fit more secure on my head. The Bose moves around a little more on my head than the Sony's. I was really considering declaring this category a draw, but after further consideration, I'm going to give the slight edge to Bose on this. I do most of my listening with these headphones sitting down as I tend to use my QC30 when I'm more active. It's really close though.
(Winner - Bose)

Noise Cancelling:
I wear glasses and have tested both with glasses and without. With glasses, after running Sony's Optimizer (An amazing feature by the way), they clearly best the Bose. It really is amazing how well this feature works. I honestly thought it would be a gimmick. I can't explain how they do it, but this is the first pair of noise cancelling headphones I've ever used where I didn't feel like I needed to take my glasses off to get that little bit of extra silence out of the headphones. Remarkable! Bose has always struggled with my glasses for me, which is the reason I even got into their noise cancelling earbuds to begin with. Now when I remove my glasses, which is how I assume most wear noise cancellers, it's very close. However, one thing gives the Sony's the edge for me, high frequency noise cancellation. The Sony's cancel the sound of silverware banging together, running water, voices, and other sudden higher pitch sounds better than the Bose do. They both bring the bass from my home theatre system to a near whisper, and I'm hard pressed to tell a difference. I will say that I've only tried the Bose in the Air so I can't compare the two for airline use. With these facts, I'm currently giving the edge to the Sony's assuming they're comparable to the Bose in the Air; which every review I've read state that they are.
(Winner - with Glasses, Sony by a Landslide. Without Glasses, Sony by an inch)

Features:
Sony has the Noise Cancelling Optimizer, Touch Controls, and Awareness Modes. You can use the Sony's with Noise Cancelling on or off in both Bluetooth and Wired Mode. Bose has Voice Prompts and Dynamic Multi Device Switching. Most say the Sony's, I say it depends. The dynamic multi device switching that the Bose offers is a very big deal, and in my opinion the best feature out of all the devices. I mean, being able to connect to my iPad Pro and iPhone at the same time and have sound played from each one without going into settings or repairing through the headphones is a huge deal. For me, I'm going to give the slight edge to the Sony's for 2 reasons, first, the Noise Cancelling Optimizer is a God send for me and my glasses. I finally can wear Noise Cancelling Headpohones and never feel a need to remove my glasses. Second, I own the QC30s which offer the same Multi Device Dynamic Switching the QC35s do. So the feature is available for me.
(Winner - For Me, Sony. For Those without glasses and/or those who own the New QC30s, it Depends.)

Design:
I've never been big on design or build quality. Both look decent as Consumer style headphones, and both feel premium, although in different ways.
(Winner - Draw)

Final Verdict:
For me it's hands down the Sony MDR-1000x. It has better sound and noise cancelling with my glasses. Sound and Noise Cancelling are what matters for me most with these two headphones, and the Sony's win in both. Owning the Bose QC30s actually make it even easier to choose the Sonys for me. If I didn't own the QC30s, I could see it maybe being a little tougher to decide simply because of some of the features the Bose offer that the Sony's don't, as well as the amazing comfort. Your mileage may vary, and I encourage each person to try out both if trying to make a decision.
 
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I can agree with most of this. I do wear glasses to bed but hardly ever at all during the day. Sound is subjective but I found the Sony's more veiled. Like you said the device switching is huge for me where it was ANC with glasses for you.

For those with QC35's have you updated to the latest firmware. I wanted to think I heard a bit better bass improvement after the update.
 
I can agree with most of this. I do wear glasses to bed but hardly ever at all during the day. Sound is subjective but I found the Sony's more veiled. Like you said the device switching is huge for me where it was ANC with glasses for you.

For those with QC35's have you updated to the latest firmware. I wanted to think I heard a bit better bass improvement after the update.
Yea, I still have both and one thing I agree with you on, it's very difficult to choose. After more time, I've noticed more. 1, I enjoy the Bose much better at lower volumes, but at higher volumes (65% and above), the EQ change that happens to the Bose gives it a piercing sound that I don't like with some tracks. It's a super relaxing headphone to listen too, but as you said, it's not for jamming out and enjoying music. 2, and a very important feature that I forgot to mention in my comparison, Bluetooth stability. Here the Sony destroys the Bose with my iPhone and iPad. I lose connection much quicker on my Bose. I can leave my Sonys at one end of my home and walk around the rest of my home without a hiccup. Can't do that with the Bose.
 
How is the microphone compared to the Bose?
Ie, when you talk to someone over the phone, do the Sony's get the job done?

I would really like some input on this! It's hard to find any review that even mention the mic and "taking a call".

Tia,
Andreas
 
Funny, but I had to revisit this thread. I still have my QC35's but have gone to listening almost entirely to my Solo 3's now. The bass is a bit more "loose" than the Sony's or Bose, but everything else in terms of sound quality is on par or better than both. Of course these are not noise cancelling and are not as comfortable as the Bose but they are a more fun listening headphone and more engaging.

Unless you need noise cancelling I think the Solo 3's are a better value than both.
 
I just went to best buy to sample both QC35 and MDR-1000x. Im not sure if it's their demo but the Sony sounded terrible, no hi-res, muffled, sounded like a pair of $20 headphones. Guess maybe I'll go to another Best Buy and take a listen....
 
Does anybody know how these Sonys compare to the Sennheisser Momentum Wireless 2.0? I'm trying to decide between these two.
 
The Sony "MDR" model numbering for headphones has been around likely longer than you have walked this Earth.

I got a pair of MDR-V6's as a high school graduation present in 1989, and they still work just fine. My current go-to is Sennheiser HD598, but those V6s might be the most used and beloved piece of audio equipment I've owned.
 
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