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Yet another symptom of Sony's inability to make enough PS5 consoles. Maybe Tim Cook should take on Sony's top job as a new challenge. Then again, nobody is looking to pay $499 extra for a PlayStation stand or another thousand bucks for a usable amount of SSD storage...
This might be the absolute worst post I’ve seen on this forum. Are you serious?
 
I only decided to get a PS5 a month ago - but I’ve already gotten close a couple of times. I expect to have one by the end of this month.
A year ago, it took me about two weeks (I followed a few of the twitter accounts releasing info on upcoming stock, turned on notifications, and jumped in at the appointed times - took perhaps half a dozen tries - GameStop got a larger than usual shipment, and a whole lot of people reported success). Hang in there, it's worth the wait. Best of luck to you.
 
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Ah, makes sense. Still, how on Earth do PS fans tolerate a year plus delay. Bonkers I tell ya! ?
The vast majority of current games, run on both the PS4 and PS5 (last I looked there was something like half a dozen comparatively obscure PS4 games that wouldn't run on the PS5). Many more recent games ship both a plain PS5 version and a "PS5-enhanced" version that turns up the dial on a number of graphical goodies. A handful of games, mostly from Sony themselves, are PS5-exclusives (like "Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart", "Returnal", "Astro's Playroom"). There are a lot of people who play on a PS4 that are waiting for the PS5 to be easily available. That state shows no sign of manifesting soon.
 
I'll keep finishing up my PS4 games and wait for the updated version of the PS5 with better power, thermal and graphics card.
Huh. That's many years off. The current PS5 works great. And doesn't do leaf blower imitations. They won't be changing the design substantially any time soon (they made one minor revision, changing a screw and removing some plastic it turned out they didn't need, as a response to seeing how they run "in the wild"). And changing the graphics card is at least 5 years out.
 
I got AppleTV+ for 3 months free trial with new iPhone a couple months ago. It expires in 2 weeks but I already canceled it for the future. It took me only 3 weeks to watch everything that was any good... Ted Lasso watched 1 episode... PUKE! AppleTV+ is a joke compared to my Netflix.... yes lots of garbage there too but 1000x more content and a lot of very good stuff.
 
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Slightly off top, but I called this about ten years ago, when everyone was hailing streaming as the TV-killer slash savior. I was like, yeah... you like it now, but are you gonna like it when everything fractures apart because of greed, and suddenly have to fork over the same amount you're paying now for TV in collective streaming subscriptions? Of course, as to be expected, it was a roll of the eyes and dismissal blah blah blah. But here we are. On the door step of exactly what I predicted. It won't be long before having a good-sized, old-fashioned Dish Network package (with HBO and all the extras) is actually cheaper than the sum of all the splintered streaming services.

Ah... progress.
 
Slightly off top, but I called this about ten years ago, when everyone was hailing streaming as the TV-killer slash savior. I was like, yeah... you like it now, but are you gonna like it when everything fractures apart because of greed, and suddenly have to fork over the same amount you're paying now for TV in collective streaming subscriptions? Of course, as to be expected, it was a roll of the eyes and dismissal blah blah blah. But here we are. On the door step of exactly what I predicted. It won't be long before having a good-sized, old-fashioned Dish Network package (with HBO and all the extras) is actually cheaper than the sum of all the splintered streaming services.

Ah... progress.
Except no one gets every streaming service under the sun and if anyone is they are doing it wrong.
 
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Huh. That's many years off. The current PS5 works great. And doesn't do leaf blower imitations. They won't be changing the design substantially any time soon (they made one minor revision, changing a screw and removing some plastic it turned out they didn't need, as a response to seeing how they run "in the wild"). And changing the graphics card is at least 5 years out.
1-2 years off most likely.
 
Huh. That's many years off. The current PS5 works great. And doesn't do leaf blower imitations. They won't be changing the design substantially any time soon (they made one minor revision, changing a screw and removing some plastic it turned out they didn't need, as a response to seeing how they run "in the wild"). And changing the graphics card is at least 5 years out.
Exactly, the PS4 Pro/Xbox One X only happened because of the rise of 4K TVs, there would be very little point in an 8K PS5 Pro because of diminishing returns, you would need a very large TV over 70in to even benefit from going 8k over 4K
 
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An inability or is it Sony artificially limiting supply to create more/stronger demand? ;)
No. Selling fewer consoles doesn’t magically make you sell more consoles. The clever trick these companies use is to aim to sell more consoles. That way you sell more consoles. And more games, which is where the real money is anyway.
 
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An inability or is it Sony artificially limiting supply to create more/stronger demand? ;)
Traditionally console sellers profit off selling games, not the console hardware, which expains the fact the original PS3 was initially sold at a loss and why they seem to focus on digital delivery (no physical copy cost, no second-hand market, no vendor fees).

Microsoft has an evolved approach: they don't sell games una tantum, but as a subscription.
 
Yet another symptom of Sony's inability to make enough PS5 consoles. Maybe Tim Cook should take on Sony's top job as a new challenge. Then again, nobody is looking to pay $499 extra for a PlayStation stand or another thousand bucks for a usable amount of SSD storage...

Man you really don't know what Sony does do you?

Offering a service such as video streaming has nothing to do with making harwdare.

PS4, playing online and the hardware and system OS an security patches are still FULLY supported by Sony.

By your assumption then XBOX has hardware issues as many of their previous systems are also still supported. Again this has nothing to do with partnering with services. Its income to Sony nothing more nothing less.

Sony has always maintained from Marketing etc that the PS4 and PS5 is an entertainment Hub, not simply for just games.
 
Better to wait and get hands on Playstation 5 rather than buying PS4. But good that there is some offer for those buying the older PS4.
Many of us already have the PS4 such as myself. Never considered buying PS5 due to my TV is not higher than 1080P so the benefits that PS5 brings is lost on my use case. I'm still looking for a 4K TV that is NOT a smart TV; cause I already have an AppleTV 4 and PS4.

Unless I can absolutely ensure no AndroidOS TV has any listening capabilty. Else I'll just keep it off my internet connection.
 
Many of us already have the PS4 such as myself. Never considered buying PS5 due to my TV is not higher than 1080P so the benefits that PS5 brings is lost on my use case. I'm still looking for a 4K TV that is NOT a smart TV; cause I already have an AppleTV 4 and PS4.

Unless I can absolutely ensure no AndroidOS TV has any listening capabilty. Else I'll just keep it off my internet connection.
The benefits would not be totally lost on a 1080p TV there are a far, far greater number of games that run at 60 FPS on PS5, not to mention supersampling.
 
The benefits would not be totally lost on a 1080p TV there are a far, far greater number of games that run at 60 FPS on PS5, not to mention supersampling.
Which games are running at 60 FPS on PS5 that do not on PS4 for 1080p?

PS5 is tempting but I’m focusing on investing and on getting a Studio/Mac Mini with more performance than the current M1 provides this 2022.
 
Which games are running at 60 FPS on PS5 that do not on PS4 for 1080p?

PS5 is tempting but I’m focusing on investing and on getting a Studio/Mac Mini with more performance than the current M1 provides this 2022.
Far too many for me to list, it’s seriously a huge change in the experience for me, much greater than any increase in resolution.
 
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I got AppleTV+ for 3 months free trial with new iPhone a couple months ago. It expires in 2 weeks but I already canceled it for the future. It took me only 3 weeks to watch everything that was any good... Ted Lasso watched 1 episode... PUKE! AppleTV+ is a joke compared to my Netflix.... yes lots of garbage there too but 1000x more content and a lot of very good stuff.
That's an interesting tradeoff between them... I was shocked how ATV+ was cheaper, without ads vs. other SS (streaming services) on tiers with ads. I myself redeemed my complimentary months of that and Apple Arcade about 3 weeks back. What I've seen thus far ain't too shabby, but yeah, the content available between them and other SS that are dedicated to streaming is as different as night and day*. FWIW, I welcome this change of pace. I like knowing that a few months from now, I can put ATV+ to rest. Probably join the scores of others who will subscribe one month a year when new programming and additional seasons of TV shows come out :)

Contrast that to Hulu and Disney+... I needed far more than a few months to get through everything. I had Hulu for a year, but with-ads, it ended up being miserable experience.

* I'm still annoyed how if you watch ATV+ through a web browser, you can put items into your "up next" feature (aka watch list), but you can only access them through the Apple TV app. There's also no search feature via browser. I just go to Google and type in "Apple TV+ [name of show]"

Slightly off top, but I called this about ten years ago, when everyone was hailing streaming as the TV-killer slash savior. I was like, yeah... you like it now, but are you gonna like it when everything fractures apart because of greed, and suddenly have to fork over the same amount you're paying now for TV in collective streaming subscriptions? Of course, as to be expected, it was a roll of the eyes and dismissal blah blah blah. But here we are. On the door step of exactly what I predicted. It won't be long before having a good-sized, old-fashioned Dish Network package (with HBO and all the extras) is actually cheaper than the sum of all the splintered streaming services.

Ah... progress.
While SS are getting more pricy and competition's gotten fierce in that arena, I myself will take SS over cable TV any day. I saw a comment on Reddit where Netflix will be going to $20 a month for their 4K tier. May as well just get cable TV. :D I haven't checked up on cable TV prices in a long time, but I recall back in 2005, expanded cable TV was easily $60 a month. I highly doubt cable TV got more affordable since then. And what's worse is quality of programming has gone downhill. SyFy has a weird mishmash of some sci-fi stuff, but History Channel (CuriosityStream for $20 per year FTW!) isn't really about history anymore. MTV isn't really about music anymore. You don't really learn anything on The Learning Channel. Etc.

With SS being on demand, I can just watch stuff whenever I'd like to, and some preliminary research means I know that the SS will have some minimal amount of content I'd like to check out. If it gets bad, doing month-to-month means I can just quit. I've quit Hulu and Disney+, so I know firsthand that it's easy to do (they'll drag on a few extra pages of "are you sure you want to quit?", with Hulu informing you if you just want to pause for a month or more, you can do that, not get charged for those months not in use, while keeping the sub going)

As for things getting too pricey because there's so many of them:
1) It's kind of a shame that there are so many freaking services, but at least there are only a handful of major ones. I'd rather have this than too much consolidation, as less competition hasn't been that great for consumers.
2) See below...

Except no one gets every streaming service under the sun and if anyone is they are doing it wrong.
Yeah, rotating SS seems to be a foreign concept even this day in age. I know it's hard to do in some situations. Namely, if you're a family, living with roommates, or otherwise share your account with others in different residences. If you're by yourself, or perhaps one other person, you can plan out ahead of time "we'll do 3 months of Hulu, then have 2 months of Disney+, then switch to Netflix after and stay on that until I'm bored". It's much more of a hassle to plan all that out in a group.
 
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And what's worse is quality of programming has gone downhill. SyFy has a weird mishmash of some sci-fi stuff, but History Channel (CuriosityStream for $20 per year FTW!) isn't really about history anymore. MTV isn't really about music anymore. You don't really learn anything on The Learning Channel. Etc.
Unfortunately, what happened was lots of the networks (Discovery, History Channel, etc.) found that it was way cheaper to film "reality TV" shows rather than pay to do actual interesting documentaries. I really liked the History Channel, and Discovery (especially the Wings series on WWII and Cold War aircraft, which kinda vanished), but I had absolutely zero interest in "Ice Road Truckers" and similar trash - there's no useful history there and nothing to discover.

CuriosityStream is a gem - not perfect, but $20/yr is dirt cheap for what they provide. My biggest concern with them (and the related Nebula) is worry that their funding model may not keep them afloat. I'd happily pay more (no, not $20/mo, but way more than $20/yr) if it meant they were more likely to stick around.
 
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Unfortunately, what happened was lots of the networks (Discovery, History Channel, etc.) found that it was way cheaper to film "reality TV" shows rather than pay to do actual interesting documentaries. I really liked the History Channel, and Discovery (especially the Wings series on WWII and Cold War aircraft, which kinda vanished), but I had absolutely zero interest in "Ice Road Truckers" and similar trash - there's no useful history there and nothing to discover.

CuriosityStream is a gem - not perfect, but $20/yr is dirt cheap for what they provide. My biggest concern with them (and the related Nebula) is worry that their funding model may not keep them afloat. I'd happily pay more (no, not $20/mo, but way more than $20/yr) if it meant they were more likely to stick around.
Ancient Aliens is on season 16 (sixteen), so yeah, they're doing something right there. :\ I too ended up getting Nebula at no extra cost. I have several SS going on at once which is more than I can handle.* However, I'm fine with continuing to pay for CuriosityStream even though I haven't really touched it since it's so affordable (also in part to hold on to Nebula). I've heard people renewing at discounted rates, but to me, it didn't seem the hassle just to save $5 per year.

* TBF, Paramount Plus was free courtesy of T-Mobile, and Amazon Prime was already paid through for a full year
 
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