Sony S3HP VS 12" PowerBook SD

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  1. Uma888 macrumors 6502

    Jan 10, 2005
    Birmingham, United Kingdom
    Sony S3HP
    Operating System
    Operating SystemMicrosoft® Windows® XP ProfessionalMicrosoft® Windows® XP Service Pack2
    CPU Section
    Microprocessor Full NameIntel® Pentium® M processor 730 533 MHz FSB, Supports Enhanced Intel SpeedStep® TechnologyMicroprocessor ManufacturerIntelMicroprocessor Speed (GHz)1.60Microprocessor TypePentium M 730L2 Cache (KB)2048Frontside Bus (MHz)533
    Memory Speed (MHz)400Memory TypeDDR2 SDRAM (PC2-3200 - DDR2-400) (some shared with the video memory)Max. Memory (MB)1024Memory Size (MB)512
    Hard Drive Capacity (GB)60Optical Drive TypeDVD±RW DriveOptical Drive Fittingbuilt-inSpeed CD-R Write24Speed CD-ROM Read24Speed CD-RW Read12Speed CD-RW Write10Speed DVD-ROM Read8Speed DVD+R Read4Speed DVD+RW Read4Speed DVD-R Read4Speed DVD-RW Read4Speed DVD+R Write2.4Speed DVD+RW Write2.4Speed DVD-R Write2Speed DVD-RW Write2
    Display TypeX-black LCDDiagonal Size (in)13.3Resolution Format1280 x 800Resolution TypeWXGA
    Graphic Card Full NameNVIDIA® GeForce™ Go 6200 with TurboCache™ supporting 128 MB (*)ModelGeForce™ Go 6200 with TurboCache™ technology (*)ProducerNVIDIA®RAM (MB)128Comments(*) NVIDIA® TurboCache™ technology combines the size and bandwidth of video memory and dynamically available system memory for optimal system performance
    Built-in Stereo SpeakersYESIntel® High Definition Audio compatibleYES
    4 Pin i.LINK™ (IEEE1394), 400 Mbps1DC in1Docking Station Interface1Headphone Jack1Memory Stick™ Slot1Memory Stick Slot TypeStandard size, Memory Stick™ Pro, Memory Stick™ Duo, high-speed data transfer compatibleMicrophone Jack1RJ-11 Direct Port (Modem)1RJ-45 Direct Port (Network)1USB SpeedHigh/Full/LowUSB Port (quantity)2USB Version2.0USB Connector TypeAVGA Connector for Monitor1PCMCIA Card Type I or II1
    Keyboard Section
    Touch Pad1
    Battery TypeLithium-Ion battery
    Built-in ModemV92/V.90, K56 flexEthernet 10 BASE-T/100 BASE-TXYESIntegrated Wireless LANYESWireless LAN Max. Date Rate (Mbps)54Wireless LAN Range (m)10 - 100Integrated Bluetooth (Version)1.2Bluetooth Range (m)10Bluetooth Max. Data Rate (kbps)723Wireless LAN Type802.11b/g
    Sony Software
    Click to DVD™2.2DVgatePlus 2.0PictureGearStudio 2.0SonicStage2.1VAIO Media3.1Recovery SystemHard drive recoveryVaio Edit Components5.0Sonic Stage Mastering Studio1.4Vaio Zone1.2VAIO Update2.1
    Third Party Software
    Adobe® Acrobat® Reader®6.0Adobe® Photoshop® Elements2.0Adobe® Premiere®StandardWinDVD™for VAIO 5.0Microsoft Works8.0Norton Internet Security2005Adobe® Acrobat® Elements6.0Adobe® Photoshop® Album Starter Edition2.0 SENorton Password Manager2004Record Now!7.3Google toolbar1MoodLogic2.5
    Supplied Accessories
    AC AdaptorYESBatteryYESPower CordYES
    Depth Main Unit (mm)224.8Height Main Unit (mm)29.9Height Main Unit max. (mm)35.4Width Main Unit (mm)312.5Weight with Supplied Battery and Supplied Drive (kg)1.95
    Guarantee (Months)12

    12" powerbook SD
    Processor 1.5GHz PowerPC G4
    Memory 512MB PC2700 (333MHz) DDR SDRAM
    Display 12.1-inch (diagonal), 1024 x 768 resolution, TFT
    Graphics NVIDIA GeForce FX Go5200 with 64MB of DDR SDRAM
    Hard disk drive 80GB Ultra ATA/100; 5400 rpm
    Slot-loading optical drive 8x SuperDrive DVD±RW/CD-RW
    Ethernet Built-in 10/100BASE-T
    Wireless (2) Built-in 54-Mbps AirPort Extreme; built-in Bluetooth 2.0+EDR
    Modem (3) Built-in 56K V.92 modem
    Keyboard Full size
    System software Mac OS X v10.3 Panther
    Software Mail, iChat, Safari, Sherlock, Address Book, QuickTime, iLife (includes iTunes, iPhoto, iMovie HD, GarageBand and iDVD[4]), iSync, iCal, DVD Player, Classic environment, Acrobat Reader, Art Directors Toolkit, EarthLink TotalAccess (includes 30 days of free dial-up service with Earthlink activation), FileMaker Pro Trial, GraphicConverter, OmniGraffle, OmniOutliner, QuickBooks for Mac New User Edition, Microsoft Office 2004 for Mac Test Drive, Zinio Reader, Xcode Developer Tools and Apple Hardware Test
    Video accessories Mini-DVI to DVI adapter, mini-DVI to VGA adapter
    Hardware accessories Modem cable, power adapter, AC wall plug, power cord
    Limited warranty and service Your PowerBook G4 comes with 90 days of telephone support and a one-year limited warranty.

    i can get the powerBook for abt £1000 and the sony for about £1100

    which would you say is better?

    (im a possible switcher, if i get the powerbook :p, if not now, when the revB iMac G5s come in)
  2. GodBless macrumors 65816


    Jan 22, 2005
    Value wise the PowerBook wins by far. The PowerBook hardware is more reliable than any other portable computer on the market today. Apple has a history of least repairs compared to any other computer company. Also PowerBooks are some of the lightest computers too so it is very easy to take it from place A to place B. Also you will get a better operating system. For a computer company Apple also has the best technical support on the planet. I am a recent switcher (its been just over 2 years) and I can tell you if you buy a computer it better be from Apple.

    I went through 2 Sony laptops before I got an iBook because both of them had problems my second one had major hardware problems.
  3. Capt Underpants macrumors 68030

    Capt Underpants

    Jul 23, 2003
    Austin, Texas
    Honestly, I would get the Sony right now. The PB is getting older and older every day. That sony has some great technology (better processor, faster FSB, faster RAM, faster video card, etc.).
  4. joshua_msu macrumors regular


    Aug 5, 2004
    chicago (formerly detroit)
    Technology and speed wise the sony wins quite easily. Just decide what is more important between speed and OS.
  5. slipper macrumors 68000


    Nov 19, 2003
    no matter how good the sony is, its still using that crappy OS and prone to the thousands of viruses out there.
  6. Fredstar macrumors 6502a


    Nov 3, 2004
    Near London
    Why the Sony is better:
    -As thin as the Powerbook
    -Faster Processor
    -Slightly better GFX card

    What is better about the Powerbook:
    -Better Battery life 4.5hrs vs. 3
    -Faster dvd writing speeds 8X Vs 4X
    -Tiger versus XP :rolleyes:

    I haven't used the Centrino chips but i know they are faster than the G4's and will be faster than the G4 1.5 at certain apps. If you like Tiger and Panther then go for Pbook, if you are ok with Xp go for Sony
  7. hvfsl macrumors 68000


    Jul 9, 2001
    London, UK
    While the G6200TC is slightly better than the FX5200, don't expect to do much gaming on ether graphics cards.
  8. Uma888 thread starter macrumors 6502

    Jan 10, 2005
    Birmingham, United Kingdom
    powerbook wins, In my own opinon.

    this is because:
    macs have longer lifespans (iv read some people are (still) running panther on a G3 mac :eek: , try putting xp on an old pc :mad: )

    i will be swithcing on the 18th of april 2005 (only if tiger arrives and a new rev of powerbook, if not ill wait for the next revision of the powerbooks + tiger :cool: )

    another question of topic:
    is it possible to hook up two monitors to a powerbook (with 128mb vram)?

    PS: the sony laptop has a better screen, serious its got higher contrast etc everthing just looks soooo defined (but it runs xp, which isnt soo defined :p )
  9. h00ligan macrumors 68030

    Apr 10, 2003
    A hot desert
    fwiw i had a 1.33 pb and sold it for an s260 - after 3 months of randomly dropping wireless crashing, virri,security concerns..i'm selling it to go back to the 12"

    btw, i am a ccna and mcse - neither are paper based.. i just forgot how much i like to turn on my computer and go when i am at home.. and WORK on them at ya know.. WORK. - the only thing that concerns me now is that the g4 is on its' last legs.
  10. Abstract macrumors Penryn


    Dec 27, 2002
    Location Location Location
    Everything about the Sony is better, especially that widescreen 13" and graphics card. Its much faster overall as well.

    Problem is WinXP. I don't love it. However, I don't have the hatred for it everyone else seems to have. Its not that bad if you run anti-virus software that automatically gets rid of viruses for you. You won't even know you're getting them, and they don't affect usability.

    But I do love OSX. Its just that at this moment, that may not be enough for me not to SERIOUSLY consider the Sony.
  11. deebster macrumors 6502

    Oct 21, 2004
    Olde Englande
    Indeed. I'm happily running Panther on a G3 (600) iBook, and my mum, bless her, runs it on a G3 (350) PowerMac.

    Yes, and you can have both displays showing different stuff (aka 'spanning'). Furthermore, all PowerBooks can run in clamshell mode (ie, with the screen/lid closed) when connected to an external monitor. You only need the basic VRAM to do this too. Anything more than 16MB will work, although more will make for smoother visual effects of course.

    iBooks can also span if you install a (safe and removable) hack, but they are not designed to be run in clamshell mode
  12. kristo macrumors newbie

    Dec 12, 2003
    dude, a ccna is totally paper based. the ccie is only half paper based. get that and you will be so jaded you will hate all things networked.

    Myself, I'd get the sony. OSX is sweet and all, but you don't need to run windows on it, grab yourself some linux goodness. then, all you lack is expose, drop shadows and um, thats about it.

    Course, I have both (PC and mac)
  13. Uma888 thread starter macrumors 6502

    Jan 10, 2005
    Birmingham, United Kingdom
    hmmm, as a SUSE user, i have considered using linux on the sony, but that laptop is built fo windows :S (Sony have supplied thier own software for it, making everything easy to use (burning, making movies, etc)

    after thinking long and hard, i wont be getting the sony, this is because i need somthing new, a virus free (and spyware i.e. .cab files :mad: ) SP2 does nothing bu trun your pc in to an obese operating environment. even my norton (system works 2004) causes slow downs

    powerbook it is then :rolleyes:
  14. 1macker1 macrumors 65816


    Oct 9, 2003
    A Higher Level
    I'd got with the PB, just for OS X
    Hey i'm taking the CCNA exam next week! Please PM me some pointers!

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