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Sony WH-1000XM5 Retail Packaging Leak Confirms Headphones Redesign [Update: May 12 Announcement Confirmed]

These look nice.

But I didn't find the XM4's that good in terms of sound. I actually prefer the sound profile of Bose's Q45's and 700s.

Sony's noise cancellation was great however.
 
Once you start using thic boys in the office there's no going back to buds or headsets. Over ear cans with noise cancellation work so well in noisy office environments for music and calls.
 
Will these work with PlayStation 5? Seriously my AirPods max wont work with my PlayStation or Xbox. Now I have headphones for each. Yay walled gardens!
 
Despite my preference for open-back headphones, I'm going to have some very noisy renovation work in mu building for 15 months, and I'm afraid I'll need these as I work from home.
 
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System603 said:
And it's Apple who chose to not support Sony's LDAC, despite it being open-source and royalty free to use on transmitting side (i.e. phone). It's even integrated into Android's AOSP for every OEM to use freely, so that's a shame.
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This is one example of the mindset of Apple and how they operate as a whole.

Such a shame indeed.
 
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I’ve never tried these. How good are they for listening to music? I never use my AirPods Pro to listen to music because the sound quality is meh.
 
My WH-1000XM3 broke 2 weeks out of warranty… $450 (when I got them with $50 rebate on Amazon.ca) and couldn’t get any help from Sony… so their accessories… no thanks…
 
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I'm an old school Sony fanboy. Their industrial design isn't as good as it used to be, but still pretty great. But JFC, the the names!! WH-1000XM5? Even Honda is bringing back the Integra name, get off this alpha-num trend, it was lame even when it was "cool". I have an old Sony clock/radio/alarm, it's called the Sony Dream Machine, ffs.... not the Sony AM-PM-1224-DST-5, smh.
 
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Speaking of Hi-Res audio on that box. Does anyone know when Spotify is going to launch their much-rumored hifi service? Did they can that idea ?
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No update from Spotify at all. Last update blamed "licensing" issues. This tips the scales of my love/hate relationship with Spotify.
 
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Rogifan said:
I’ve never tried these. How good are they for listening to music? I never use my AirPods Pro to listen to music because the sound quality is meh.
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They are not out yet, so hard to tell.

The predecessors are bit bass heavy, but have a built in EQ.
 
I have the XM3. Great set of headphones, noise cancellation was way ahead of the competition when I got them a few years ago. Haven’t tried anything since that would convince me to upgrade. I have AirPod Pros that I use at the gym and for phone calls.

The issue with both is the lack of lossless over Bluetooth. 320Kbps sounds pretty terrible when you are used to Tidal or FLAC.

You can get around that using wired input on the XM3s. The onboard DAC is pretty good, and no point using an external high res DAC like the dragonfly cobalt as the headphones will invariable downsample the signal with its onboard DAC.

Long story short the next version of Bluetooth REALLY needs a ton more bandwidth if we’re to have CD quality (never mind lossless) audio wirelessly.

That’s likely to be the time I next upgrade.
 
ojwk said:
I have the XM3. Great set of headphones, noise cancellation was way ahead of the competition when I got them a few years ago. Haven’t tried anything since that would convince me to upgrade. I have AirPod Pros that I use at the gym and for phone calls.

The issue with both is the lack of lossless over Bluetooth. 320Kbps sounds pretty terrible when you are used to Tidal or FLAC.

You can get around that using wired input on the XM3s. The onboard DAC is pretty good, and no point using an external high res DAC like the dragonfly cobalt as the headphones will invariable downsample the signal with its onboard DAC.

Long story short the next version of Bluetooth REALLY needs a ton more bandwidth if we’re to have CD quality (never mind lossless) audio wirelessly.

That’s likely to be the time I next upgrade.
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Wait, if I have my X3s wired through an external DAC they’ll downsample the signal? Seriously?
 
Looks like theyve used the cheap, egg-carton style packaging similar to the wf-1000xm4. While of course I fully agree with the need to minimize wasteful packaging, I think they can still achieve that goal while maintaining a premium look and feel when buying a relatively expensive device. My WF XM4s came with shards of cardboard inside the earpieces, and the package was not sealed. Its a small point, but for something fairly pricy that goes inside my ear, it was ever so slightly off putting.
 
I love my XM4... except for the thing that makes me hate it.
You can NOT shut up the voice assist, even if you turn it onto essential messages.

Turn on your device
Bluetooth device 1... connected
Bluetooth device 2... connected

Bluetooth drops out for 0.5 seconds?
Bluetooth device 2... disconnected
Bluetooth device 2... connected

get a phone call (which automatically disconnects from your non-phone device)
Hello my name is **** Bluetooth device 2... disconnected ****

See
https://www.reddit.com/r/sony/comments/jbmtyb
for the sage of this annoying daily users with no action.
 
sos47 said:
sony dont support losless on ios devices? so, waiting for the next iteration of Airpods Max, hopefully they will get losless over the air with low latency.
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No headphone will support lossless over Bluetooth. There simply isn't enough bandwidth. Wifi could do it but consumes too much power. I'm sure Apple and others are working on it.
 
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Seamless switching between devices and voice isolation on calls make Apple Headphones always the better choice. Too much convenience to give up on
Curious to see if you can make outdoor calls with those Sonys now
 
AgeOfSpiracles said:
I'm an old school Sony fanboy. Their industrial design isn't as good as it used to be, but still pretty great. But JFC, the the names!! WH-1000XM5? Even Honda is bringing back the Integra name, get off this alpha-num trend, it was lame even when it was "cool". I have an old Sony clock/radio/alarm, it's called the Sony Dream Machine, ffs.... not the Sony AM-PM-1224-DST-5, smh.
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What most people don’t understand about the horrible name is that Sony - with regards to decisions being made with large markets like the US in mind - is doing what a lot of Japanese companies do. The same thing Acura started doing with its car models after the model names took off on their own wings. They choose names that force consumers to also say the name of the brand.

Sony wants to be like Apple but they aren’t there. Nobody says “I got a new Apple iPhone xx.” They just say “I got a new iPhone xx.” That’s because we all know the brand so well and more importantly, we all know exactly what to expect from the brand.

Sony wants to capture the idea that everything the brand makes is consistently very good and then we’ll see cool names for their product models.
 
Ace008 said:
What most people don’t understand about the horrible name is that Sony - with regards to decisions being made with large markets like the US in mind - is doing what a lot of Japanese companies do. The same thing Acura started doing with its car models after the model names took off on their own wings. They choose names that force consumers to also say the name of the brand.

Sony wants to be like Apple but they aren’t there. Nobody says “I got a new Apple iPhone xx.” They just say “I got a new iPhone xx.” That’s because we all know the brand so well and more importantly, we all know exactly what to expect from the brand.

Sony wants to capture the idea that everything the brand makes is consistently very good and then we’ll see cool names for their product models.
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I think we can all blame Intel for this. Weren’t they the 1st to market their CPUs with confusing number and letter identifiers?
 
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