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SORRY, No G5 AT NY

Apple needs more than a G4 1.2 or 1.4GHz

I think that apple needs to release a 1.4, 1.6 and a 2 Ghz G4

Why? If they don't the will stay to far behind of the pentium 4.

I know all about the speeds and Mhz specs.
myth etc etc.

But if apple want to take some market share (PC, Unix and other costumer users) they need Higher speeds.

And I think that when apple will release a 1.2, 1.4 and a 1.6Ghz They will loose market share.
(pentium is almost at the 3 Ghz)

(I work, live and sleep with my mac so don't misunderstand me)


Now the best news of all. Last january (MWSF 2002) I was talking to two VIP's
they where talking about the problem why steve did not show the G5 at MWSF.

(steve joint us later on and conformed)

Problem 1: DDR ram - solved now 233 (G4) and 333 (G5) Mhz

Problem 2: Rapid I|O or bus increasement - solved now 133 (G4) and 266 (G5)Mhz bus

Problem 3: current OS not compatible with the G5 - Solved now with 10.2

Problem 4: Production G5 chips - SOLVED

They where talking about the G5 1.8, 2.0 and the 2.2 Ghz

I saw the demo G5 running at 2.0 Ghz

Steve Jobs Quote " We need to keep track on those pentium guys", "Motorola has started the production of our G5"

This is all for now...
 
Re: Apple needs more than a G4 1.2 or 1.4GHz

First, as much as I hope your right about the specs I really dont think so! The Macs are not that far behind as to merit a double in speed! I agree that more speed is the key to more market share, BUT, there are other factors!

No offense, but why are you telling us this info now + not back in January??

QUOTE:

Now the best news of all. Last january (MWSF 2002) I was talking to two VIP's
they where talking about the problem why steve did not show the G5 at MWSF.

(steve joint us later on and conformed)

Problem 1: DDR ram - solved now 233 (G4) and 333 (G5) Mhz

Problem 2: Rapid I|O or bus increasement - solved now 133 (G4) and 266 (G5)Mhz bus

Problem 3: current OS not compatible with the G5 - Solved now with 10.2

Problem 4: Production G5 chips - SOLVED

They where talking about the G5 1.8, 2.0 and the 2.2 Ghz

I saw the demo G5 running at 2.0 Ghz

Steve Jobs Quote " We need to keep track on those pentium guys", "Motorola has started the production of our G5"

This is all for now... [/B][/QUOTE]

Are you saying that OSX.2 is going to be a 64Bit version??
 
Yeah,and I have seen the G6 with the

Geforce 7 TI and Bus speed up to 1.5 GHZ....get serious,man and do not tell us such crap,sorry,have read enough of those people saying I know someone who works for Apple....if it was a joke,forgive me :mad:
I meant you,Gfour ;)
 
Ouhhh

I love that never endling discussion. heheh. Also I have to ask you guys when enough is enough. Couple month ago i switched from a G3 400 to a G4 800 (loaded with everything). I work on large CMYK high res files for work and also flash stuff. With OS X now things are smooth and fine. Hell, even its so fast that talking a break for a smoke won't be necessary anymore. So, even with a G5 whatever, it won't really decrease me working time. Well, as a mac fan i surly like to see better, bigger, cooler and faster macs... but most here don't need them. So why always bugging around and don't enjoy the fruits that Mr Jobbs gave us? I mean: Do you really care if you have a G5 1.5 GHZ , or if its still aG4 with the same specs??????

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The force is with us
 
Why I tell this now....

I know steve jobs personal.

I prommised him and the two VIP's.

Wait and see.... :)
 
Anyway,what did you promise him ?

And what shall we see now at MWNY?The G5?With 2.0 GHZ?I do not think so,but what do I know?We will see,Gfour.If you are right with the G5,you´ll get a big smack and as you know Steve,you can give him one big smack from me,too.:D
 
I think most Mac users understand the whole megahertz myth. We just want higher speeds to show to the PC users that we are not 'slower'. It is much harder to actually 'teach' people about the Megahertz myth. Most consumers have no clue what the processor even does, so an advertisement campaign against Intel would be poitnless!
 
To the multi-processor man

The G4 has been only able to support 2 processors simultaniously up until this Apollo project. Now it is said that the G4 can function in 4s or 8s or something like that. Well, the G4 will not live on in the high-end PowerMacs long enough to be considered for quad processing. It is late now or I would tell all the ways that the OSX can multi-process, but I will instead bid thee all Adeu and tell you about it in another tale.
 
Re: SORRY, No G5 AT NY

Originally posted by pacoarango
Its impossible to release G5 by summer, face it, Apple could never sell existing stock of current G4. The speed difference would be too large and Apple would have to kill pricing and loose big on existing G4s. Expect max dual 1.4 with DDR, 10.2 OS and enjoy. (That is nearly a 80% boost):(
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Or they could take off the existing G4 chips and speed up the iMac.

~bust
 
Re: Why I tell this now....

Originally posted by Gfour?
I know steve jobs personal.

I prommised him and the two VIP's.

Wait and see.... :)
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That's swell.

I have a few problems with your MWNY predictions:
Your spelling and language lead me to think you're 11-13 years old (no offense if your an ESL type [and no offense to 11-13 year olds with impeccable spelling and grammar either]).

Steve Jobs, whom I won't claim to know personally, but have met, is exceedingly cautious about what he says and where he says it.

I was inside the Apple office at MWSF, and there was an inner sanctum inside of it, where Apple employees couldn't go. That was the rarefied domain of Jobs, and that weekend, Ive.

If he were demonstrating the G5 at MWSF it would have been inside that room. I know a VP at Apple (no, she won't ever tell me anything), and she couldn't get into that room. My incredulity is growing faster than your nose.

So, that means your VIP friends were...the Governor of Maine...CEO of Adobe...your band teacher?
 
Re: Apple needs more than a G4 1.2 or 1.4GHz

Originally posted by Gfour?
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(steve joint us later on and conformed)
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Steve would never conform...even after a joint.:rolleyes: :p

I had to explain the MHz myth to my brother this weekend, and it made me realize that people have no idea what makes a computer faster than another one.

IT'S NOT ABOUT MHZ PEOPLE!!!

The overall system performance needs to be taken into account. RAM, hard drives, PCI bus are all different places where bottlenecks can potentially happen.

Who cares if a chip runs at 5GHz if it's hard drives are ATA 66 and run at 4800rpm. Likewise, all the DDR in the world won't make a Pentium 133 run any faster.

It takes an effective balance of all of these elements to gain substantial performance. Moving to DDR memory will probably be the first step. 1.1GHz, 1.2GHz...whatever the top end may be, that's not where the performance increase will happen.
 
Originally posted by mr.w
I'd agree... G5's will most likely join the apple line-up in january. hopefully we'll see a huge suprise in their architecture though, seeing as how there's been so much talk about them for such a long time (possibly motorola is adding even more kick a@@ components). i wouldn't be suprised if the g5 blew the new AMD chip out of the water.
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THERE WILL BE NO G5 UNTIL 2004!
can't you see? according to motorola's plans,they will release PPC 7500 G4 in 1 year which will have many of G5 features and that is fast enough for me
 
Originally posted by Megaquad
THERE WILL BE NO G5 UNTIL 2004!
can't you see? according to motorola's plans,they will release PPC 7500 G4 in 1 year which will have many of G5 features and that is fast enough for me
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Proof? Motorola doesn't post processor release dates on their site, so what's your source?
 
Quick and dirty:

Why does an 800 MHz Sun cost thousands more than a 800MHz Mac, which costs $1000 more than an $800 MHz PC?

The Sun does more work. It is more efficient. The Mac, in turn does more work than the PC.

Think of it like cars. Three brands have 800 horsepower. The Sun is the Porsche, light and fast. The Mac is the BMW, heavier, so not quite as fast, but still speedy. The PC is the VW Bus. Same power, but alot slower.

Thats the MHz myth. Higher number does not alway equal faster processor.

I'll be the first to admit that PC processors are faster than Mac processors at the moment. The top end PIV is supposedly 10% faster than the top end Athlon, which is supposedly 20% faster than a 1GHz G4.

This means than a 1GHz G4 is roughly 70% the processor a 2.4GHz PIV is. I feel that the clunkiness an instability of Windows eats that 30% (and more), so when I mental mathmetize my algorythmic synonamolies, 'the Mac accomplishes more work per 8 hours than the PC.'

Got it...
 
GFOUR YOU GOT ME STEAMED!

OK this is TOO much to allow without some good old fashioned name calling
which I will save as icing on the cake!

You KNOW steve and promised him in your own beautiful broken english.

:Don worri stev, Me not tell noone till late: shades of Star Wars racism!

This is a irresponsible post
It irresponsible to lie to us !

And if you telling the truth and Steve is your friend then you have just betrayed
his trust!

Either way I hate you! and I will track you down like the dog you are and make you eat a G5 tower!

G5, G5 G5,, All I can do is shake my head,!
 
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