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All iPads Sort the 1GB ram debate once and for all...

Crashes mean bugs in the apps or in the OS. Handling low memory conditions is a basic requirement of any OS.
 
I guess I'm amongst the few who have no problems with my Air's RAM. Rarely does anything crash and Safari never has. Been playing a lot of Oceanhorn, too, which is pretty resource intense.
 
deeddawg said:
Crashes mean bugs in the apps or in the OS. Handling low memory conditions is a basic requirement of any OS.
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And the way the OS handles that, is by first asking nicely to give up some memory, if its still low on memory, it kills you app dead in its tracks to reclaim memory. No bugs involved, your app still died.
 
I've seen Safari crash my iPad 2x now. I was a staunch supporter of the 1GB of ram, but I was surprised how its now crashed. With that said, I believe a lot of instability people are incurring can be solved with Apple updating iOS7 to better manage the memory.

Safari for years had memory leaks on OSX (still does?), so my opinion is that they need to tighten the code up more. I'd love to see more memory on the iPads but since I cannot upgrade my rMini, lets hope for a software solution
 
Vertigo1 said:
It's nonsense. Do you really think Apple would release a product that was seriously hampered by the amount of memory installed?

The Safari crashes are down to it being an early 64-bit version on iOS7. They'll shake the bugs out in future iOS updates and this whole memory thing will be forgotten about.
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Well they put a CPU in the iPad 3 that was underpowered for the display it was supposed to drive, so ...
 
Ries said:
And the way the OS handles that, is by first asking nicely to give up some memory, if its still low on memory, it kills you app dead in its tracks to reclaim memory. No bugs involved, your app still died.
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So you think that the OS killing the active in-focus app is the normal working-as-designed behavior of iOS? :confused:
 
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Air never crashes for me and Safari never quits unless I go to the Marca website link that keeps on going around. I run some pretty heavy ****** on my iPad, such as multitrack recording programs with many real audio tracks at once, multiple effects ect.. The kind of stuff that used to put my old core-duo PC with 4gb ram on its knees, yet I can do this with ease on the Air. RAM is fine, Apple software and IOS7 are currently buggy as hell, that's the problem if you must look for one.
 
TWO2SEVEN said:
I bought two and duct taped them to my bumper. I put them on white screens and use them as headlights, like most people.
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You been watching Red Green?

Anyway, we've moved past those old yellow headlights and have whiter / brighter options nowadays. ;)
 
deeddawg said:
My advice - buy a device from somewhere with a good return policy and try it out.

First of all, as far as I know nobody's yet truly determined the root cause for the safari tab crashing/reloading some are reporting. What I've seen is a lot of conjecture and assumption but no true evidence-based analysis showing that it is an actual hardware limitation rather than buggy code.

More importantly you'll find a bit of an "echo chamber" effect on MR where issues seen by some quantity of users get inflated to seem like an Earth-shattering matter. The reality is yes some people see an issue, but you may not ever see it. Doesn't mean it's any less real to them, but people without a gripe aren't as likely to post a bunch about their lack of troubles. So, take the reports here with a grain of salt.
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After Safari crashes (most people won't know because iOS doesn't show an error message, people just think they pressed the home button by accident) you can goto Settings > General > About > Diagnostics & Usage > Diagnostics & Usage Data > and you will see a log for the low memory (low ram)

There is your proof.

Edit: Apple knows this is the problem because those log reports get sent to Apple if you said yes to the prompt when you first setup the ipad.
 
I recently received this PM in regards to the 1GB debate:
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I can tell you this much, as I was handling my iPad my remote viewing faculties kicked in, got hot in my hand and my head started reeling, It was all I could do to get my iPad sorted and bundled up and put away as fast as possible.

The spirit energy coming off of it is nothing less than a time warp black hole for suspicious observers and shadow-less orbs that cannot come close because of some form of energy that I believe was even unknown to Nikolas Tesla' I'm afraid of the vibes I felt to try to handle them again. A freaking black hole blue beam star gate Vulcan mind meld.

Once was enough, I don't care how much they are worth in taxing our souls. Those freaking Apple fans are a sorted group from the vibes I got they are nothing less than that hairy goat legged queen that they follow.

It was awful the way I could remote view the debauchery associated with the material passing of these electronics from soul to soul in a drunken orgy of flesh and passion and everything included with it the noise was deafening from the voices within squealing with every kind of barbarous goings on clicking of heels a running wild chasing every kind of damning remembrance it was more than a portal I heard the screams of pain and pleasure and that was enough for me, Let someone else have them.

A little holy water and stuffed garlic might do the trick if left to marinate for God only know how long until the passing of the spirits can be washed from the patina of time clinging to the surface of these dank and nasty God forbidding things, good riddance. I hope the go to a monastery somewhere and used as a pittance for the poor. Maybe then the rain will wash them clean. It may already be to late. It was another paradigm and times best forgotten I think. Heaven help us if we return to that way of living again through a CME attack or electrical grid shut down and God save the Queen that hairy goat legged .....
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Obviously it would be in poor taste to identify the author, so will simply leave this be.
 
macfacts said:
After Safari crashes [...] log for the low memory (low ram)

There is your proof.
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Proof of what?

What in the above says the crash wasn't due to a bug in memory handling?

What in the above says there are no bugs in the memory management modules, they're working fine, and the sole root cause is physical RAM?

I see people jumping to conclusions based on the name of the log file but no proof of anything.
 
ZBoater said:
No, we lack a time machine or a magic mirror to look into the future.

Apple will either fix it. Or they won't.

Pick which one you think is most likely.
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so you admit that there is a problem that needs to be fixed

yet you rail against everyone who reports the issue and come to apple's defense as if you have 1,000 shares of stock in the company

give me a break
 
mikew3 said:
so you admit that there is a problem that needs to be fixed

yet you rail against everyone who reports the issue and come to apple's defense as if you have 1,000 shares of stock in the company

give me a break
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You must have me confused with someone else. You do need a break. :rolleyes:

Of course there are issues. Last time I checked the people that design and build iPads are HUMANS. As such, there are bound to be issues. I don't "rail" against people having issues. I "rail" against people accusing Apple of insulting, ripping off, and all manner of illegal or inappropriate behavior.

Do me a favor and go back an reread my posts before you continue to confuse me with somebody else.
 
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