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Blaze4G

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I think I would have used the 7+ for this comparison.

Why wouldn't the 7 Plus be in there, instead of the small 7 ? That kills the whole point of this test, as the rest of those phones are the 5.5" size with larger batteries.

I'd like a battery test, between the S7 Edge, iPhone 7 Plus, Pixel XL, and OnePlus 3T.

Not sure if you guys noticed but the smaller Pixel was used not the XL. So if you disregard the s7 edge and the one plus 3. The pixel last much longer than the similar sized ip7.
 

Frankied22

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I used a 7+ alongside my OP3 for a few weeks and my OP3 consistently got better battery life. It's amazing to me that people say the iPhone always has good battery life because I've had every one since the 3GS and the battery life has always left me wanting. My 6S did so fast it's ridiculous. Also, dash charging is a real game changer. It's so nice to be able to charge my phone to like 70% in 30 minutes.
 
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spinedoc77

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The regular iphones are horrendous with battery life, I'd never own one for that single reason. The plus iphones are a different story, and probably get the best battery life I've ever had out of a phone. I'm always surprised at the end of busy day when most other phones would be powering off, my 7+ still has 30-40% left.
 
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Not sure if you guys noticed but the smaller Pixel was used not the XL. So if you disregard the s7 edge and the one plus 3. The pixel last much longer than the similar sized ip7.
It has a battery far larger than the iPhone 7, almost matching the 7 Plus's battery.
 

Michael Goff

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Yes, but it also means the battery test is no longer a test of optimization and efficient battery use, but cramming in hardware to deal with software issues, which has always been the Android approach.

Who used it to test efficiency? I thought the idea was to show which phones last longest in certain circumstances. Having the most efficient processor doesn't mean crap if it still dies the quickest.
 

Blaze4G

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Yes, but it also means the battery test is no longer a test of optimization and efficient battery use, but cramming in hardware to deal with software issues, which has always been the Android approach.
but the pixel competes with the iphone 7 so what is the problem?

When you go to buy a phone and considering battery life, do you say you want the one that optimises battery life or the one that last longer?
 

Tsepz

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iOS 'usage' != SOT
OOOOH!
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The Android and Samsung Haters are not going to like this one! Prepare for a flood of excuses.
 
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epicrayban

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All the iPhone tropes are being dismantled little by little. Best screen? No longer. Best camera? No longer. Most stable OS? Latest reports say nope; turns out Android's more stable. I've also long argued that the Android software experience is now overall easier and more consistent than iOS.

I think it's time we add battery to this list.

Without wireless charging and fast charging, the iPhone doesn't help itself in this department either.
 

Tsepz

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but the pixel competes with the iphone 7 so what is the problem?

When you go to buy a phone and considering battery life, do you say you want the one that optimises battery life or the one that last longer?

Brilliant! :D

You have to understand though, the iPhone Fanboys have to protect their choice, even if it means making ridiculous and utterly ludicrous statements.

The S7 Edge blew them out the park, but that Pixel did a great job to, and it is a direct iPhone7 competitor.

Its hard for some accept how far Android has come unfortunately. :)
All the iPhone tropes are being dismantled little by little. Best screen? No longer. Best camera? No longer. Most stable OS? Latest reports say nope; turns out Android's more stable. I've also long argued that the Android software experience is now overall easier and more consistent than iOS.

I think it's time we add battery to this list.

Without wireless charging and fast charging, the iPhone doesn't help itself in this department either.
Its utterly pathetic that iPhone STILL doesn't have Fast Charge, even my 2yrld Note 4 has that.

Each year, the iPhone shows how dated and limited it is, and each year, we get iPhone fanboys in here trying to defend it with more and more ridiculous statements.
 
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epicrayban

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Brilliant! :D

You have to understand though, the iPhone Fanboys have to protect their choice, even if it means making ridiculous and utterly ludicrous statements.

The S7 Edge blew them out the park, but that Pixel did a great job to, and it is a direct iPhone7 competitor.

Its hard for some accept how far Android has come unfortunately. :)

Its utterly pathetic that iPhone STILL doesn't have Fast Charge, even my 2yrld Note 4 has that.

Each year, the iPhone shows how dated and limited it is, and each year, we get iPhone fanboys in here trying to defend it with more and more ridiculous statements.


The reality is Apple can get away with these incremental updates because of their loyal following and brand recognition. Having a ridiculous amount of money in the bank helps, too. For better or worse, they're on a very different timetable than the rest of the competition.

I do believe the iPhone 8 will right a lot of the wrongs of the iPhones from these couple of years. It's a shame they let the competition beat them on so many fronts during this lull, but the iPhone 8 can change all that. I'm looking forward to it.

Though I do worry about typical "Apple-isms," like only giving the highest, largest, and most expensive end model the features we've all been waiting for (thankfully, this is a trend Google/Samsung have not copied).

To bring the point back to batteries, Apple taking wireless charging to the next step is particularly exciting.
 

Zaft

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The reality is Apple can get away with these incremental updates because of their loyal following and brand recognition. Having a ridiculous amount of money in the bank helps, too. For better or worse, they're on a very different timetable than the rest of the competition.

I do believe the iPhone 8 will right a lot of the wrongs of the iPhones from these couple of years. It's a shame they let the competition beat them on so many fronts during this lull, but the iPhone 8 can change all that. I'm looking forward to it.

Though I do worry about typical "Apple-isms," like only giving the highest, largest, and most expensive end model the features we've all been waiting for (thankfully, this is a trend Google/Samsung have not copied).

To bring the point back to batteries, Apple taking wireless charging to the next step is particularly exciting.
Apple gets away with it because 90% of people don't care about their phone.
It's a tool that should just work. iMessage, Facetime, iCloud back ups.

You don't have to download seperate apps or try to get people to use your app of choice. It's all built in.

Samsung and others have surpassed apple as far as hardware but they still trail in the software department in the sense of integration. But the Pixel looks to try to solve that.
 

Tsepz

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The reality is Apple can get away with these incremental updates because of their loyal following and brand recognition. Having a ridiculous amount of money in the bank helps, too. For better or worse, they're on a very different timetable than the rest of the competition.

I do believe the iPhone 8 will right a lot of the wrongs of the iPhones from these couple of years. It's a shame they let the competition beat them on so many fronts during this lull, but the iPhone 8 can change all that. I'm looking forward to it.

Though I do worry about typical "Apple-isms," like only giving the highest, largest, and most expensive end model the features we've all been waiting for (thankfully, this is a trend Google/Samsung have not copied).

To bring the point back to batteries, Apple taking wireless charging to the next step is particularly exciting.
I've come expect disappointment with each iPhone announcement.

I remember being so excited when the rumours of a Plus model came out in early 2014, I expected Apple at least match the Galaxy Note 3, then the iPhone 6 Plus was announced, and for the last time my excitement for an iPhone turned to disappointment, now I just expect to be underwhelmed.
 

jamezr

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Apple gets away with it because 90% of people don't care about their phone.
It's a tool that should just work. iMessage, Facetime, iCloud back ups.

You don't have to download seperate apps or try to get people to use your app of choice. It's all built in.

Samsung and others have surpassed apple as far as hardware but they still trail in the software department in the sense of integration. But the Pixel looks to try to solve that.
Great points! I would say the Pixel and Nougat close that gap rather well right now. The Pixel is a great blend of software and hardware very much like the iphone is IMHO. They both do very well in user experience.
 
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Channan

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I used a 7+ alongside my OP3 for a few weeks and my OP3 consistently got better battery life. It's amazing to me that people say the iPhone always has good battery life because I've had every one since the 3GS and the battery life has always left me wanting. My 6S did so fast it's ridiculous. Also, dash charging is a real game changer. It's so nice to be able to charge my phone to like 70% in 30 minutes.
I have the exact opposite experience. I've had the iPhone 3G, 3GS, 4, 5s, SE, and 7, as well as the Nexus One, ThunderBolt, Nexus 4, Moto X 2013, Moto X 2015, and Galaxy S7 Edge, and I've always had better battery life on my iPhones.

Actually the Nexus One and Galaxy S7 Edge were the only two Android phones I ever owned that had decent battery life. Nexus One was too long ago to really remember exactly, but I have a Galaxy S7 Edge and iPhone 7 now and my iPhone 7 consistently lasts longer than my Galaxy S7 Edge.
 

M. Gustave

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Best camera? No longer.

Camera performance, and especially jpeg processing, is a pretty subjective experience, no? Some prefer iPhone, some don't.

Most stable OS? Latest reports say nope; turns out Android's more stable.

What "reports" are you referring to? Apple doesn't release internal data to the media. Please tell me you don't mean that advertisement masquerading as journalism for that Russian app from last year, an app with zero reviews in the App Store?

I've also long argued that the Android software experience is now overall easier and more consistent than iOS.

Again, totally subjective. It's also hard to argue the point when we're not even sure what "Android" you're referring to. Stock Nexus? Touchwiz? HTC? Etc.

I think it's time we add battery to this list.

There is more than one iPhone out there. The 6s+ and 7+ get well over a day's work on a charge. I've gone two days with moderate use. Is that really worse than the average "Android" phone?
 

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M. Gustave

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http://www.phonearena.com/news/Repo...ften-than-Android-units-did-during-Q3_id87913

Report: iOS devices failed more often than Android units did during Q3

Second time in a row this has happened.

Hilarious. Yep, it's the same "smartchk" app company, promoting itself... again.

And yep, still ZERO reviews for their app that is allegedly supplying this data. Who exactly is installing this app on their iPhone? How many iPhones did they test? If Pokémon Go crashes all the time, and was released first on iOS, is iOS "more unstable" than Android? Really? Please use some critical thinking, I know it's hard, but do try.

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