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Does this "bill" also target Samsung app store practices? Or only the American companies (Apple, Google, etc)?
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South Korea Delays Bill That Would Ban Apple From Requiring Developers to Use In-App Purchase System
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Does this "bill" also target Samsung app store practices? Or only the American companies (Apple, Google, etc)?
Just a fight over who gets to benefit from apples ecosystem- Apple or developers. Also politicians probably want a bigger cut. This gets Apple to come to the table.
Biggest problems are what it does to so many other systems. Sony and Nintendo will also be destroyed.
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erikkfi
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The difference is the amount of development and access to APIs Apple would normally not make publicly available and a platform that holds far more personal data and real-time location data. Billions of unsophisticated low tech users depend on iPhones as their access to the web and assume they’re safe. 3rd party app stores would be no different than Apple to these user so when the get a pop up to download a game and enter their information including credit card or even Apple ID and password. It will be a lot easier to scam people.
Web Apps are available to any developer and should be used by developers that think Apple should work for free.
Wildkraut
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It's not an option for Apple to leave any "major" country market, because they would get sued to hell for leaving that country. E.g. here in Germany (and probably in more EU countries, too) we have strong employee rights which prohibits "hire and fire" like in the U.S.
They would have to pay very high damages to all fired employees and also to the customers that already own Apple Devices, for being cut off the AppStore, rendering their devices useless unable to reinstall, setup, reactivate, reconfigure, and probably even damages for causing lost or negatively affected businesses.
Not even Apple have that much money left for paying damages and fines.
In addition Apple will lose fights in the U.S. too, leaving other countries will lead to nothing than less profit and more lawsuits. Leaving any country is also not an option, because Apple is being sued around the world, they would have to lift off to ApplePlanet to escape this, but they didn't show any ambitions to conquer the outer space yet.
I doubt it is that black and white. Though I am no expert in EU law.
I am sure there is some clause where an entity can remove themselves from a market due to financial loss, or, be able to continue supporting legacy products and former employees until specific deadlines expire. In the end, it would have to be settled in court and I am sure Apple would weigh in such damages in the (unlikely) event they pull away from Europe or other large entities.
Wildkraut
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Yeah its not black and white, Apple wont lose it all, but they will have to adapt a lot and make compromises, and they will stay on the watchlist.
E.g. EU is also about to set up a law to enforce at least 3 major OS upgrades and 5 years of security updates.
The outcome of this all will not only affect Apple, it will mainly lead to new general laws, affecting many companies with larger market shares.
In my opinion it's about time for old laws to catch up with the new digital economy which moves at high speed.
The nice thing is, your government does move much faster than ours, and does seem to make corrections a bit quicker. I still wonder if we have old Whig party members using feather quill pens. But, I don't want to get political!
I really am in support of 5 year updates (even longer) as most technology is able to support newer software for quite some time. I think Apple has a great track record for long standing updates already, Google could learn from this! I am bummed I have to send off my Pixel 3 soon, as it will stop getting updates early next year. Long life products produce less E-Waste, a global problem IMO.
visualseed
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I see the EU being brought up a lot, but I don't think any of the proposed regulations regarding Apple or Google have the votes to pass. They will fall into one of two voting rule. Unanimity, which they certainly won't have the votes for because all it will take is a country like Ireland to veto. Or Qualified Majority, which would still be hard to muster support because even simple majority votes against big tech did not pass on issues far less seismic. Recently, there was huge draft law aimed at making companies like Google and Facebook liable for copyright infringement by their users, that got a lot of press and seemed a certainty to pass (if you believed the press and statements of lawmakers) that went down in flames on vote. The EU gets a lot of credit for saying things, but does not have a really stellar track record of actually delivering on their bravado. When they do deliver, you get a hot mess like GDPR.
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If it passes Apple won't leave the SK market, they'll just start charging for Xcode and licensing of APIs, increase the developer annual fee, and start charging developers on a per app downloaded basis for costs incurred in running the App Store. That is also exactly what they're going to end up doing in every other country where something like this passes. There won't be any more free or low cost apps on the Apple App Store except for large companies (Netflix, Amazon, Microsoft, etc.) who will negotiate deals for having their apps appear to be "free". Small developers will be eliminated and consumers will have less choice and will have to spend more money to get the same thing. As for "alternate app stores" you can expect Apple will sue anyone that doesn't pay license fees for API use -- along with making regular, periodic changes in the OS that physically block non-licensed apps from running. You can expect Google will implement the same changes for Android. The big companies and developers will continue to make money (likely even more) and small/medium developers and consumers will get screwed.
These developers would be jobless or selling shareware without Apple. For the ones who want different rules let them have them but do not distribute their apps.
The major pluses to the App Store are knowing the apps are nefarious and knowing you can get a refund with a few clicks. Super easy. I cannot imagine tracking down some piss ant developer hoping he will refund the .99 I spent on their app thinking it would be good.
Attacking Apple for having a great business model is like the politicians who think taxing a company has no impact on the prices of the products a company sells. I can tell you in business every last expense is accounted for in my prices. I don't eat anything.
The major pluses to the App Store are knowing the apps are nefarious and knowing you can get a refund with a few clicks. Super easy. I cannot imagine tracking down some piss ant developer hoping he will refund the .99 I spent on their app thinking it would be good.
Attacking Apple for having a great business model is like the politicians who think taxing a company has no impact on the prices of the products a company sells. I can tell you in business every last expense is accounted for in my prices. I don't eat anything.