Space Billboards Banned by the U.S... Huh??

Flying Llama

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WASHINGTON (Reuters) -- The U.S. government does not want billboards in space.

The Federal Aviation Administration proposed Thursday to amend its regulations to ensure that it can enforce a law that prohibits "obtrusive" advertising in zero gravity.

"Objects placed in orbit, if large enough, could be seen by people around the world for long periods of time," the FAA said in a regulatory filing.

Currently, the FAA lacks the authority to enforce the existing law.

For instance, outsized billboards deployed by a space company into low Earth orbit could appear as large as the moon and be seen without a telescope, the FAA said. Big and bright advertisements might hinder astronomers.

"Large advertisements could destroy the darkness of the night sky," regulators said.
Apparently the U.S is banning billboards floating at low altitude atmosphere, close to space. But shouldn't it be some sort of international organization like the United Nations doing something like this? I like what they are doing, but as a matter of principal... does the U.S think they (or we, whichever) own space? :confused:

And what do they mean "obstructive"? Isn't that like, an opinion? If they ban them, just ban them all! :p
 

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Imagine looking up and seeing an Apple logo instead of the moon, cool.

I agree with you that the US shouldn't presume to 'own' space.

Would a low earth orbit 'Vote Kerry', launched by the rest of the world but visible over the US last November, have done any good?
 

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mpw said:
Imagine looking up and seeing an Apple logo instead of the moon, cool.
Haha! That would be funny, but only for a few days...

mpw said:
I agree with you that the US shouldn't presume to 'own' space.
Yup! :)

mpw said:
Would a low earth orbit 'Vote Kerry', launched by the rest of the world but visible over the US last November, have done any good?
Hehe, but I think people would just get mad at ruining the (somewhat and already polluted) "clear" sky, resulting in a boycott and more votes for Bush.
 

stubeeef

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remember the advertising blimps in BladeRunner. Made me think of those.
It's a bird, It's a plane, No it's Tide Laundry Detergent-NEW & Improved!
 

wdlove

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There is plenty of space junk in orbit now. We certainly don't need to add to that number. Why spoil such a beautiful as the crisp clear blue sky.
 

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Flying Llama said:
Apparently the U.S is banning billboards floating at low altitude atmosphere, close to space. But shouldn't it be some sort of international organization like the United Nations doing something like this? I like what they are doing, but as a matter of principal... does the U.S think they (or we, whichever) own space? :confused:
It probably only applies to U.S. based companies and such. Of course, the companies that have the means to advertise in such a way probably aren't confined to the U.S. Darn it.
 

Sun Baked

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Much better to have a huge Tampax and/or Preparation H space billboard in geostationary orbit over Europe. ;)

They like space billboards. :p
 

Flying Llama

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ColoJohnBoy said:
It probably only applies to U.S. based companies and such. Of course, the companies that have the means to advertise in such a way probably aren't confined to the U.S. Darn it.
Ah, that clears up a lot, thank you! :)
 

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Flying Llama said:
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Apparently the U.S is banning billboards floating at low altitude atmosphere, close to space. But shouldn't it be some sort of international organization like the United Nations doing something like this? I like what they are doing, but as a matter of principal... does the U.S think they (or we, whichever) own space? :confused:

That's exactly what I thought too!
 

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FWIW, i'm pretty sure there are a couple of private companies with this as a goal, so it's not an unreasonable fear, sadly. As to companies in other countries, I don't know how the laws work, and whether they could float one over New Jersey, but i say we pass a law and shoot the mofos down, if it ever comes to that...
 

iBlue

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rainman::|:| said:
FWIW, i'm pretty sure there are a couple of private companies with this as a goal, so it's not an unreasonable fear, sadly. As to companies in other countries, I don't know how the laws work, and whether they could float one over New Jersey, but i say we pass a law and shoot the mofos down, if it ever comes to that...
while I agree on general principle, I am more concerned about a law being passed that would allow us to have weapons that could fire far enough to go into orbit
:D
 

Henri Gaudier

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Here's something for your pipe

I like what they are doing, but as a matter of principal... does the U.S think they (or we, whichever) own space? :confused:
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Advertising in space is horrendous but there are other terrible things that deserve your consternation. The following quotes are from Rebuilding America’s Defenses: Strategy, Forces and Resources for a New Century.

It was writen by your friendly men at the Pentagon.

I picked these out in 5 minutes so it probably has other glorious insights into what else America has planned for the world if you were to delve further.

“CONTROL the new international commons of space cyberspace and pave the way for the creation of a new military service – U.S. Space Forces – with the mission of space CONTROL.

Inevitably, new technologies may create the need for entirely new military organizations; this report will argue below that the emergence of space as
a key theater of war suggests forcefully that, in time, it may be wise to create a separate “space service.”and the ability to conduct strikes from space appears on the not-too-distant horizon – the need for ground maneuvers to achieve decisive political results endures. Regimes are difficult to change based upon PUNISHMENT alone. In sum, the process of rebuilding today’s Air Force – apart from to accelerate the process of transformation within the service, to include developing new space capabilities. The ability to have access to, operate in, and DOMINATE the aerospace environment has become the key to military success in modern, high-technology warfare. Indeed,space dominance may become so essential to the preservation of American military preeminence that it may require a separate service.”

And guess what? This service now exists …well done America you now have the worlds first Space Commander.
 

combatcolin

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Isn't space classed the same as internatinal waters.?

Made me laugh when i read this, anyone read the sequal to Red Dwarf "Infinity welcomes careful drivers"?, when an American space crew explode hundreds of stars to create "COKE ADDS LIFE" and the image burned night and day for 6 months in the sky.

George is so stupid he might even think about it.
 

Dont Hurt Me

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Politics, lets see they dont want BillBoards but they do want weapons? Who runs our Govt? its not the people i assure you, its BigBusiness. Sad that are Planet has to invest Trillions on weapons every year. Human Race has a screw loose somewhere. Imagine if that money could go to Disease,Hunger,Energy,Space Travel......Instead we spend it all on blowing each other up. :mad: Pisses me off, maybe one day in the distant future :rolleyes:
 

Thomas Veil

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ColoJohnBoy said:
Of course, the companies that have the means to advertise in such a way probably aren't confined to the U.S. Darn it.
You know it. I remember about a decade ago, there was some Brit who had a plan all ready to do this very thing: launch a space billboard. I'm not sure why it never came to pass -- public objection, hopefully -- but the fact that anyone is seriously contemplating it is scary.

We're already suffering from enough ad pollution. What're they gonna try next, attaching eyeglasses to our heads that beam advertising to us no matter which way we look? :mad:
 

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If this is a first step to get it outlawed around the world, that's fine by me. I don't ever want to look up and see an ad in space - I like the night sky just the way it is. And astronomers are just a small group - you'd have to ask the whole world if they'd want to see the ad.....the problems you'd start by putting one of these up would be disastrous.

I hope they'll be able to enforce it.

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alex_ant

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Don't worry about space billboards. There are commercially available lasers plenty powerful enough to destroy whatever the ad companies come up with. All it would take is a couple smart malcontents, and it would be very hard to track them down.

Highway billboards are the real obnoxious ones. I propose a team effort of systematic arson.
 

Nanda Devi

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alex_ant said:
Highway billboards are the real obnoxious ones. I propose a team effort of systematic arson.
Ever read The Monkey Wrench Gang by Ed Abbey? It's about a group of modern day "outlaws" who do precisely what you're referring to: drive around burning down billboards or sawing through the supports to topple them. They also sabotage construction sites where new highways and parking lots are being put in on top of pristine wilderness. Their ultimate goal is to blow up the Glen River Canyon dam.

Fantastic book, check it out!