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Speculation Targets Mac Pro as First "Made in USA" Mac Product
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You'll need "Pro" internet bandwidth too.
How many Mac Pro owners really do Pro stuff with it? (being a professional porn watcher doesn't count)
Mac Pro for porn site developers, Macbook pro for pro porn watchers, Imac for porn advertisers, ipads for ??
The original Mac was manufactured in the USA.
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I use Photoshop, Illustrator, and sometimes InDesign on my Macmini with discrete graphics. And that's enough for me. But, if I worked in any kind of video editing, or serious multi-screen graphics work, I would need far more power than the Macmini provides.
Mac Pro for porn site developers, Macbook pro for pro porn watchers, Imac for porn advertisers, ipads for ??
iPad for watching mobile porn in HD
iPad mini/iPod Touch for streaming porn in busses/subways
iPhone for calling and submitting application to become porn stars
About 128 simultaneous ones.
I created a thumbnail sized wall of porn to watch simultaneously.
I got the power.
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Size matters... No, really!
smaller memory, smaller hard disk, smaller video card... Slower
Mac
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Now!
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Who cares where? Just build it!
About 128 simultaneous ones.
I created a thumbnail sized wall of porn to watch simultaneously.
I got the power.
You know, there's a fine line... :O
How can Americans be racists? Sure they're a melting pot of everything at this stage.
Seriously though. It has to be a good thing. A country looking after its own and giving people pride in what they can do for themselves.
About 128 simultaneous ones.
I created a thumbnail sized wall of porn to watch simultaneously.
I got the power.
How can your brain process each individual video o.o
Um, but we aren't talking about a country looking after its own. We are talking about a for-profit company whose mandate - by law - is to protect the interests of its shareholders. We (the West) created laws that mandate that corporations need to create value for their shareholders (usually profits) as their primary purpose. You can rail agains the greed all you want, but we as a society created those laws.
If Apple feels it can create value for shareholders by assembling off-shore, then they are doing what we told them to do. And if they feel there is an advantage to moving some assembly to the US - then it's because they see it as a corporate advantage. They are not doing it to create jobs in the US... they are doing it because the resources they need happen to be geographically located there.
Apple is not a charity. I wish people would quit expecting it to act like one. If you want Apple to act like a charity, buy a controlling stake in the company...it is publicly traded, so it's possible. And rewrite the company by-laws.
Even if I could rewrite the bylaws, I couldn't get them to get past the laws they need to follow as a publicly traded company. Otherwise I'd have them make a mac pro!
It's so great, that's why they are committing suicide.
At a lower rate than the rest of the country. Even at a lower rate than other people in similar situations within their country. (Oh, and at a lower rate than people in the US.)
If you're going to try *that* particular canard, you should be aware that the related facts work *against* the point you were trying to make.
I laugh when I see the Mac Book Pro's benchmarks which are like 25% of the power I get on my 2010 Mac Pro.
I got 2 LED Cinema Displays, 1TB Mercury Accelsior PCI-e SSD Drive that gives me 700MB/second Read speeds, plus 6 additional Internal HD's, PCI-e USB 3.0, FireWire 800 and 32GB of RAM. Oh yeah, I removed the CD drive and hooked up a 480GB SSD instead.
Try to upgrade an iMac or Mac Book...
Mac Pro is the only REAL Professional Mac. The rest are toys...
All depends what you are doing you will find that the MBP will be a better Photoshop performer than your MP,12 cores at a lower clock is not better for PS in fact the 6 core is faster than the 12 core for photoshop and that was a pimped 12 core at 3.33Ghz. For saving an image in PS clock speed is the most important thing as i believe it only uses one core to do this so the iMac with 3.4GHz Quad-core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost up 3.9GHz wil be a lot faster in this instance.
I do not understand why people have to be so competitive over such things a lot of the time the differences are very small and there are for the majority of people a lot more important things to worry about.
The Mac Pro is a very flexible machine and can be upgraded in many ways like adding USB 3 on a PCIe card and for that reason i agree its Pro but to call the others toys is daft.
Iam sure the "new" Mac Pro will be a fast and lovely machine but i wonder if it will have the same internal flexibility it has now personally i think Thunderbolt attachments will play a big part in the next MP.
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How can Americans be racists? Sure they're a melting pot of everything at this stage.
Seriously though. It has to be a good thing. A country looking after its own and giving people pride in what they can do for themselves.
No, what I meant is that they're giving a country of mostly non-Chinese people the easier job. It's actually probably true on average that Chinese people are better at tech-related things, which is not actually racist, just a statistic that probably occurred because of differences in education.
Not inventing anything doesn't mean much. In China, you can't really invent anything without it getting ripped off instantly. Chinese companies like Huawei directly stole binary code from Cisco, and their routers identified themselves as Cisco routers.
You don't need to be an inventor to assemble Macs.
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@#$% that; if I could control Apple, I'd rewrite it so it would actually make Macs.
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I don't think very many non-pros buy Mac Pros. Also, do spreadsheets count? I have a Mac Pro, and I don't use it for pro stuff, but it's a 2008 model that I bought in 2012.
Yeah I don't buy Dan Luria's numbers, but 200 people could certainly produce enough Mac Pros for the North and South American markets, even the whole market outside of Europe. Demand in North America is possibly a 5 figure number these days. I base that on the average price per unit for Apple's desktop sales, Jon Peddie research and analysis, on the workstation market, as well as my own observations consulting in the space.
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Nor do I. The iMac has replaced a lot of the demand for Mac Pros since it went quad-core. Before October 2009 the Mac Pro was treated a lot better by Apple than after that time. From first to ship with new Intel processors to a long delay and then, well, the 2012 debacle.
First time for everything.
Has any desktop computer maker been concerned how thick it is before?
Nope, complex this are just more expensive to assembly by hand and robots still can't do those as cheap as chinese little hands.
You surely don't know that most of music on this planet is still distributed in CD and most of movies in DVD?DVD's will be gone in 2 years... CD's are already obsolete...
You don't know countless researches around the globe that shows that matte screens are better for eyes and that's why some countries have banned glossy monitors from workers using them for full working day?
Care to tell us what you know, if anything?
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Just one favor...
No unions please. Otherwise we will see headlines like "Mac Pro made-in-the-US shipping dates delayed due to strike" blah-blah.
No unions please. Otherwise we will see headlines like "Mac Pro made-in-the-US shipping dates delayed due to strike" blah-blah.
That's not a good justification for anything, and besides, Apple has always been concerned about the thickness of their desktop computers. If you really think this is going to be that first time when Apple decides to put 2.5" hard drives in their pro desktop but 3.5" in their consumer desktop, then we can just wait and see.
Ah yes, I should have been more clear. I knew Macs were made here for a long time. I meant this is the first Mac line made in the USA since they switched to Chinese and other manufacturing.
Gotcha. I just wanted to point out that America DID and CAN manufacture high quality goods.
Subpar? Mac Pro uses Xeon workstation processors with a great cooling configuration. Built to last. Performance is not head-to-head the top in gaming, but hardware has vastly outstripped games anyway. Most games are coded for consoles and then ported to PC, so the demands aren't following the same curve of pushing hardware as they used to. I have 8-core 2.93 GHz Nehalem Late 2009 with 12 GB RAM, 1 GB 5870. I can play any modern game quite comfortably. With great thermal design, my cores are pumping at 3.33 GHz in TurboBoost all the time. The frame-rate trick is that I have a 1920 x 1200 ACD, which is a middling resolution these days. But damn, it fills up my field of vision when I'm playing and looks great!
Don't forget it does all this without sounding like a jet engine just prior to lift off.