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Spotify Calls Apple's App Store Restrictions 'An Abusive Power Grab'
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I think Spotify just wants to be an equal citizen with Apple Music on iPhone. You should be able to ask Siri to play a song without having to add "from Spotify" to your command. Apple Music should pay the same rate as Apple Music for store fees. Does anyone believe that Apple Music pays a 30% commission to the App Store for every subscriber?
It’s ’s house. Spotify is lucky they’re allowed to sell an app in there at all.
Apple could lockdown and not allow music apps altogether. Apple is at least allowing competition to the benefit of the user.
It's absolutely amazing that Apple's been able to get away with this for so long. Microsoft was taken to the woodshed and forced to be broken up over far less than Apple's nonsense.
True, Apple controls 100% of the App Stores on iOS. iOS, on the other hand, has a roughly 25% market share. So, where exactly is the monopoly?
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Ca. 25 years ago Apple was in the middle of an 8 year lawsuit (including appeals) against Microsoft (they lost) for saying Microsoft copied ideas that Apple itself had copied. In 2001 they were still complaining to the DoJ about the Microsoft settlement (Microsoft was paying the settlement by buying and distributing copies of AppleWorks to schools, which Apple argued was worthless as payment—they said this about their own product).
The truth is Spotify's software inside and out *is* better. Both Spotify and Apple Music are like browsers to essentially the same catalog. One is better than the other and has outperformed the other despite the fact that Apple has every single advantage in attracting customers. They can preinstall the app, they can push ads that no other developer can to iOS users for Apple Music, and they can charge less. And yet it's garbage software:
If you've not tried Spotify on a Mac to compare, give it a go.
If Apple Music were a product that came from a standalone company, it would have disappeared by now because it's just bad. Their position is what enables them to continue competing in this space and suppressing others.
Why is Spotify not browser-only if they are being treated so unfairly?
And the real scam is paying for a music subscription in the first place. It doesn’t even benefit the right people either.
I’d have to suggest the Thanos approach and randomly kill 50% of all the apps in the App Store and see what we’re left with...
And the real scam is paying for a music subscription in the first place. It doesn’t even benefit the right people either.
I’d have to suggest the Thanos approach and randomly kill 50% of all the apps in the App Store and see what we’re left with...
Spotify… my albums kept disappearing all the time. I can't forgive that.
No they couldn't. There are antitrust and anti-monopoly laws in the united states. Apple might (and should) lose it's control over the app store as it is (see United States vs. Microsoft Corp). They certainly aren't going to push their luck by banning competing music platforms altogether.
Daddy Apple knows whats best for me. Thank you Daddy Apple.
Microsoft was never broken up.
Not sure where you heard that monopolies are illegal. Using monopoly power coercively might be illegal. But there are lots of legal monopolies. And not sure why you think the App Store is a monopoly except that it controls its own small market.
Because it would likely slash their user base by 40%. Then again, you know that. And so does Apple.
First, monopolies are not illegal.
Second, the App Store is not a monopoly, any more than McDonalds is a monopoly because they won’t let Burger King sell Whopper Juniors in McCafes.
They’ve cornered the market on awesomeness. Bastards.
Still LOVE Spotify for my music service.
Tried Apple. Doesn't work at all for me.
No folders, organization is very difficult.
Took over my entire computer and after the trial ALL my very own previously burned CD's were gone.
Called Apple twice, first phone call was 4.5 hrs, second - next day - was 3 hrs.
Finally they admitted they're aware of the issue and offerred me a FREE CD BURNER so I can re-burn all my CD's. Golly....I have over 1800 CDs. All of whom were on my computer before this. Documented, organized, correct titles and all.
NEVER again. Don't like them at all for music.
Tried Apple. Doesn't work at all for me.
No folders, organization is very difficult.
Took over my entire computer and after the trial ALL my very own previously burned CD's were gone.
Called Apple twice, first phone call was 4.5 hrs, second - next day - was 3 hrs.
Finally they admitted they're aware of the issue and offerred me a FREE CD BURNER so I can re-burn all my CD's. Golly....I have over 1800 CDs. All of whom were on my computer before this. Documented, organized, correct titles and all.
NEVER again. Don't like them at all for music.
The original verdict ordered they be broken into 2 parts. It was overturned on appeal.
Monopolies are not illegal.
Reminds me of MobileMe and how horrible it was for some reason.
Apple has never really understood cloud services.
While I agree with you wholeheartedly about Spotify getting true OS level feature parity with Apple Music, I don’t really understand the second half. Apple Music and the App Store are owned by the same company, so effectively they pay 100% of their commission to the App Store’s owner (Apple). If anti-trust breaks the App Store into its own company separate from Apple, then yes, they should have to pay 30% to that separate company.
What? Why? No logic there. Is macOS the same as Android?
Open Platform != Malware. Don't repeat nonsense.
One of the absolute most asinine and insincere analogies I've ever read in my life.
just brainstorming. I’ve never really used it. Just assumed it would work. But if you tell me it would be much worse I believe you.