It's too bad Spotify rather than Epic wasn't the plaintiff in the major antitrust litigation happening now, as Spotify is drawing much cleaner lines that also recognize the value of the single App Store approach. Even if one believes consumers benefit from Apple's single App Store and that Apple should be able to charge fees to achieve the necessary curation and security benefits it provides (which I do), there's still no reason Apple should be allowed to block developers from instituting their own payment systems.
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Then you can keep using Apple’s IAP. If 3rd party IAP was ever allowed it would only be alongside Apple’s. But just curious…do you ever buy anything via the web using a credit card?
Spotify you might be in the right on this one, but you are no better. The way you split the artists revenue back to the artists is just so bad. Starting with the way the playlists are filled and ending with the metrics that you provide , you should keep your head down. I am hoping that Apple Music will mature and provide real competition to the streaming services.
Huh? Amex is a credit card not a payment system. If a 3rd party developer was able to offer Square along side Apple’s IAP Apple wouldn’t get a cut if you used Square for your purchase.
So if there was an in-app-purchase, it would offer me 2 options to pay, with both options being the same price? Then I would either have to choose the app's payment, go get my credit card, type in all my information, Or choose Apple's option, and faceId and be done.
The app would probably only want one option, or make their option cheaper. I wouldn't feel comfortable about an app that offers me two options for the same thing with different prices. (And if Apple did allow options, I'm sure they would enforce that all options be exactly the same, price and product.)
Then keep on using Apple Pay as now and your fears won't come to pass. You will have the choice.
It's really no different than payment options on other digital stores / websites, with the added option of Apple Pay.
Or pay artists more instead of being the company that pays the least.That's a very good argument. Kudos to Spotify's lawyers.
Now hopefully with the money saved, they can use it to hire more developers. You hear that, Spotify? I want Spotify Connect to work on my Homepod!
And someone needs to learn what "bully" means. A bully goes around pushing others around to make themselves feel bigger. Apple is not doing that. Apple is just adhering to a consumer-first business model. Others come along, don't get what they want, and then label Apple a bully? Yah... no.
But this would be a choice for consumers. If a developer wants to use Square and it’s cheaper than 30% they should be able to list that cheaper price and then let consumers decide which one they want to use. Consumers aren’t using Apple’s IAP for physical goods. They’re not it using for Uber or Panera or Starbucks. Why are digital goods different other than Apple thinks they’re responsible for delivering digital customers? That has nothing to do with credit card details. It has to do with Apple thinking they’re delivering the customers so they deserve a cut of the developers business.
Cool. Don't use them then. Why should I be denied choice because you don't want it?
These companies are NOT looking out for consumers. They are looking at their own bottomline. Let this as*-clown build a phone that people want to buy and then he can decide what's best for it. Costco won't take American Express. Is that illegal?
Sounds like Spotify should go develop their own OS and get their own ecosystem with BILLIONS of devices and stop complaining about Apple
Sorry but if you make a good product you wouldn’t have to be complaining about someone else offering something similar for less money.
Second, Apple Pay is by far the easiest thing in the world to use to make a purchase. In fact, I say it might be too easy and causes me to make purchases all over my phone without even thinking about it. No other payment gateways even come close.
If I wanna move somewhere that has a home owners association fee and I don’t want to pay the fee to live there then DONT MOVE THERE lmao it’s pretty simple. This is the entrance fee to be on Apple’s platform. Take it or leave it.
Second, Apple Pay is by far the easiest thing in the world to use to make a purchase. In fact, I say it might be too easy and causes me to make purchases all over my phone without even thinking about it. No other payment gateways even come close.
If I wanna move somewhere that has a home owners association fee and I don’t want to pay the fee to live there then DONT MOVE THERE lmao it’s pretty simple. This is the entrance fee to be on Apple’s platform. Take it or leave it.
He is wrong. It is not a 'public' platform. Since when does one company get to insist on their terms because they want to make more money? Again, I can't sue an American Express card at Costco. That would be illegal too I guess. And can I demand that Wallmart carry my products if I am asking too much and can't meet their demands for wholesale cost? What you are saying makes no sense in any commercial endeavor. It's simply one side of greed fighting another side. And at least Apple has a reason to protect all their customers and provide a good experience. I find it funny that when you buy a phone you think that means it's some sort of necessary technology. Buy an Android and leave us alone.
Spotify doesn't give a **** about you. Its all about trying to fatten their pocket books at the expense of others
It wouldn't be a good experience for the user. If I went to Wal-mart and there were two items on the shelf, identical in every way but the price, I'm going to waste a lot of time trying to figure out why they are different, am I getting more value with more expensive one, is there less warranty, is it a mistake? It just wouldn't be a good experience.
Why does Apple need to bend for others? iOS is THEIR creation. How would you feel if you spent the money on designing something and built something that everyone wanted and you made it the way you felt it needed to be, just to have someone else come along and say, "I don't like the rules for how they made it". What is stopping ANYONE else from designing a OS or a phone for that matter that is better than Apple's? NOTHING. It's just that body can do it or has done it. If someone comes along and builds one and crushes Apple, should Apple then be able to cry and say, "wait, we are losing money because they built a better product and we can't sell ours." See how dumb that sounds?
apple didn't create this platform, the developers did. there would be no "there's an app for that" if it wasn't for the developers of these apps. all apple does is sit on their rear while money that these developers made get taxed. the tax should be no more than 5-10%
If I cant pay of apps via Apples payment system and will not buy an app. I just don't just some third party payment system that may or may not have any type of customer service or give a crap about you
So name the developer again that invented the iPhone and iOS?
How is forcing their IAP for digital goods protecting their customers? No physical goods use Apple’s IAP. And they created the reader category so certain digital goods weren’t required to use Apple’s IAP either. How is having to go to the browser to buy a Kindle book vs being able to buy it in-app a good experience for the consumer? It’s an inconvenience all because Apple won’t allow you to buy Kindle books using the payment information you have on file with Amazon.
The real question in my mind is once you download an app to your device are you still in Apple’s store? I would argue no. If I buy a magazine at Walmart, take it home and then decide to subscribe to it no one would say Walmart should get a cut of that monthly/yearly subscription. If Apple wants to make every app in the App Store cost something and then take a percentage of that I would have no issues.
Having to go to the browser to buy a Kindle book vs being able to buy it in-app isn’t a great experience either. There are lots of apps/websites that offer multiple ways to pay (including Apple Pay). I think people can figure it out.