Spotify should pay artists better.
Those supposed billions that you talk about came from you and I spending our money on iPhones. There is a monopoly and the US Government has stated so already. It's a question of what remedies are going to be put in place.The Spotify guy talks about it as if iOS is the only platform in the world!
At the end of the day iOS has cost billions to develop. Apple's ad fee's alone are in the billion dollars as year. They have taken numerous risks on that platform that others have laughed at (no headphone socket, walled garden etc..) so they have taken considerable risk. All of this needs to be compensated for.
You can't spend billions and billions of dollars building a customer base, an OS with api's etc.. so that anyone can sit on that platform and make money from your hard work. Hell no!
People need to remember that Windows is a paid for product. Android is paid for via its search business etc.. And even then there are multiple OEM's sharing the burden of creating these platforms. Apple is on its own. If something doesn't work (HomePods etc..) they eat the cost. Thats the risk of doing business.
Spotify seem to imply there is no risk to Apple doing business. As if the platform just exists out of thin air for everyone to make money off it. Just like any physical store, people spent money to build it, to advertise it, and get people into the store. No store on earth says go and buy this shirt next door where its cheaper.
At the end of the day, if 30% is too high then developers will move elsewhere and innovate on other platforms. Nothing is stopping them. There is no need to legislate where there is no monopoly. Let the market decide, just as we have always done.
You will when Apple takes over everything and you have zero choice. How will you feel then?Spotify sure didn't have a problem providing free streaming music undercutting everyone else who was selling tracks and CDs. They proudly called it disrupting the music industry.
Enjoy the disruption to your business now Spotify
No sympathy for them.
Is there anything stopping Spotify launching their own mobile phone?
Great actually, they almost always offer the best alternatives.You will when Apple takes over everything and you have zero choice. How will you feel then?
I will feel the same as I keep buying music from Apple and Bandcamp like I do now.You will when Apple takes over everything and you have zero choice. How will you feel then?
I’m guessing that 30% and the chip shortage to name a few. But who knows.Is there anything stopping Spotify launching their own mobile phone?
If you owned a store would you sell a product where the manufacturer put a sticker on the box telling you to go somewhere else to buy it cheaper?I can agree that apple has the right to its cut on payments done through App Store, but apple not allowing Spotify to direct people to its website seems shady
They may not be able to replicate it but let's not forget the Apple introduced the iPhone in an already crowded cellular market. They had Nokia, Samsung, Sony, etc to compete with. Apple knew the right type of phone that was missing from the bunch. That's Spotify's problem if they are too stupid to know how make a winning product.Obviously, yes. It’s not like they can easily replicate the iPhone success.
This is exactly was I was thinking of. They could start trying to make some kind of iPod Touch... The "Spotytouch" with spatial sound.Is there anything stopping Spotify launching their own mobile phone?
I highly suggest you read some business books so you fully understand how ignorant your statement is.Is there anything stopping Spotify launching their own mobile phone?
Ahh, I’ve been speaking about this recently. NARROWLY TAILORED which, translated means “We want to use their platform for free, but please be careful not to extend this generally to ALL platforms because we don’t want Tidal or Apple to use OUR platform. If you could put some wording in there that the company name it’s targeted towards is 5 letters and starts with “A”, that’d be great.”"urgent, narrowly tailored updates"
Apart from it being a money pit destined to fail in a 2 operating system dominated market? Nah, it’s a great idea lol. Or they could just focus on what they are better than Apple at.Is there anything stopping Spotify launching their own mobile phone?
OK but then they’d have to raise the price of an Apple Music subscription by 30%.Well, maybe Apple should go ahead and announce that they're taking a 30% cut from their own subscriptions as well. It wouldn't matter since the money would be go right back to them, but at least it'd shut people like Spotify and Epic up.
Can't be anticompetitive if we're taking a 30% cut too from all Apple Music and iCloud subscriptions amirite!
“Especially after you willingly wrap Apple’s fingers around your neck then, using your hands outside their hands, squeeze REAAAALLY hard. No one has allowed you to make them strangle you quite like Apple.”Apple's "ability to strangle its competitors is unprecedented."
Someone at the company looked up “winning” in the Spotify dictionary and, unfortunately read the definition for “whining” instead.Spotify - whining instead of innovating... if you’d provide some differentiated value to Apple Music that would justify higher price people would do pay it. You don’t so it’s back to kindergarten whining
Except Apple doesn’t take a cut of everything. If they deserve a cut because of the time and money they invest in iPhone/iOS then why doesn’t Uber have to pay them 30% of every transaction? Why does Apple allow reader apps which don’t require IAP?It's that "massive investment of money and time" that justifies Apple getting a cut.
To that point, Apple could spin off its iOS app dev as a subsidiary and then charge the subsidiary the same fees as other devs. I think the whole argument by Epic and others is a waste of time. Apple does not do dominate the smart phone market. these devs just don't want to deal with the rules they agreed to. Funny, they don't go after Sony which only allows the PlayStation store. Is Sony not a monopoly? By the definition of these devs, it must be.Well, maybe Apple should go ahead and announce that they're taking a 30% cut from their own subscriptions as well. It wouldn't matter since the money would be go right back to them, but at least it'd shut people like Spotify and Epic up.
Can't be anticompetitive if we're taking a 30% cut too from all Apple Music and iCloud subscriptions amirite!