Spotify Now Has 75M Paid Subscribers, Apple Music Has 40M

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  1. MacRumors macrumors bot


    Apr 12, 2001

    Spotify this afternoon reported its first quarterly earnings since its February IPO filing, and in the report, the company revealed that it now has 75 million paid subscribers.

    The 75 million number is up from the 71 million paying subscribers that Spotify reported at the end of February, and it's almost double the number of subscribers who pay for Apple Music.


    Apple in April said that it had 40 million paid subscribers across 115 countries and an additional eight million people using the service through the free three-month trial.

    Though it has 75 million paid subscribers, Spotify's total subscriber base is much larger at 170 million subscribers due to the free tier that it offers.

    While Spotify has more paying subscribers than Apple Music, the latter service has been gaining new subscribers at a quicker rate. A recent report from The Wall Street Journal suggested Apple Music is on track to overtake Spotify in U.S. subscribers as soon as this summer because its five percent growth rate per month outpaces Spotify's two percent growth rate.

    Spotify last month beefed up its free tier with on-demand playlists, song recommendations, and a new low-data mode with the hopes that a more robust free tier will convert more listeners into paid subscribers.

    Spotify stock is down following its earnings release as its $1.36 billion in revenue fell short of the $1.4 billion in revenue estimated by Wall Street.

    Article Link: Spotify Now Has 75M Paid Subscribers, Apple Music Has 40M
  2. CerebralX macrumors 6502


    Jun 28, 2013
    Looking for a place of freedom and rationality
    Apple has to make the Android version of AM much better. It's super sluggish. Support for other devices such as PS4, smart TVs etc. would also help
  3. IGI2 macrumors 6502


    May 6, 2015
    Apple has to make a Linux version, or web-based version.

    Spotify is easy to use on Linux.

    Try iTunes on Linux via Wine, it's a nightmare.

    Moreover, they could develop and promote their website by adding Apple Music there.

    A lot of folks would get familiar with that domain and would see other options, such as Pages or iCloud Drive.

    iMessage could also have a debut there. So we would gain a handful of useful apps there: iMessage (in the Cloud), Apple Music, Apple Maps, and the rest that's already there. Apple could steal the Google's momentum for web apps. (even further by making them iCloud-hosted, using CloudKit, or even making an App Store for

    Finally, a simple Apple Music on the web would resolve issues with lack of the Linux support or the need to install that crappy iTunes on Windows.
  4. nburwell macrumors 601


    May 6, 2008
    Agreed. I really can’t stand AM on my S8. I love it on all my iOS devices, but their Android app is just terrible.
  5. rom3o macrumors regular

    Dec 22, 2014
    I don’t think they are very eager to expand beyond their own hardware-customer base. Right now Apple seems very focussed on people living solely in the Apple ecosystem, but that might change in the future.
  6. diddl14 macrumors 6502a


    Aug 10, 2009
    LOL, now that would really boost market share for Apple...
  7. IGI2 macrumors 6502


    May 6, 2015
    I've never installed the Spotify on Windows PC, been using just the web version. As simple as visiting FB or Gmail.

    None of my friends actually installed it since the web version was quite good. Moreover you often can't install additional software on work computers since you may not have an admin password. Or admins disallow it simply.

    Windows people are not so app-oriented as iOS ones.

    They don't need an app for facebook, gmail, maps, since they simply google maps or translate.

    Those Linux shares are also from power users who also have Windows machines or even installed Windows on the other partition.

    Not having a web version is simply user-hostile no matter how you twist it.
  8. HobeSoundDarryl macrumors 604


    Feb 8, 2004
    Hobe Sound, FL (20 miles north of Palm Beach)
    Learn from History. iPod did not actually roar until it + a version of iTunes came to Windows. Had Apple focused on Apple people then, perhaps none of what followed would have played out.

    Apple's pond is much larger now- and very, very profitable- but the other pond(s) is larger still.
  9. convergent macrumors 68030


    May 6, 2008
    Love Spotify... moved away from Apple Music about a year ago. The main reason was that I wanted to use it across all my devices, and Apple Music didn't support some of them. Then after using it, I found that I like it better for discovery.
  10. -BigMac- Suspended


    Apr 15, 2011
    Melbourne, Australia
    Wasnt spotify on 40mill like last year? Thats not 2% growth per month
  11. Plutonius macrumors 604


    Feb 22, 2003
    New Hampshire, USA
    I'm not sure why people are concerned over what other people are using for a music service ? Use the one you want and hope that there is enough competition to keep the prices down.
  12. IGI2 macrumors 6502


    May 6, 2015
    Maybe it's a bit like with Messaging apps.

    You're not using, for example, Viber (but just WhatsApp or Signal) and you cannot communicate with that person (who uses Viber).

    Similarly with music services. You cannot share playlists, send direct links with each other to listen to that track.

    When you have a party, and you know that remix is on Spotify and you want your friend to play it but it's non-existent on Apple Music.

    Since it's all streaming you cannot send just that 7 MB file...
  13. -BigMac- Suspended


    Apr 15, 2011
    Melbourne, Australia
    Spot on. Lots of friends use Spotify here in Australia.. its a pain to share songs with them.
    --- Post Merged, May 2, 2018 ---
    Which devices are you using it across?
  14. autrefois macrumors 65816


    Oct 22, 2003
    Somewhere in the USA
    You have a better vision for Apple than Tim Cook does. Hopefully they will do this sometime soon. Everything Apple should be in one place and should actually be developed to be competitive, instead of things being fragmented and Apple just relying on people being dragged along because they use a Mac or iOS device.
  15. Superhai macrumors 6502


    Apr 21, 2010
    No, one year ago they had 50, and 30 two years ago. Which should translate to just below 3% growth.
  16. Macaholic868, May 2, 2018
    Last edited: May 2, 2018

    Macaholic868 macrumors 6502


    Feb 2, 2017
    Agreed. They needed the Android app so they could appeal to the largest customer base possible. I think their subscriber data has shown the service appeals mostly to those already in the Apple ecosystem in some form or another so they haven’t bothered to put the necessary resources into the Android app as they have into the apps on Apple hardware or iTunes. It’ll wind up like Safari on Windows. They’ll abandon it at some point.
  17. Shaun, UK Suspended

    Shaun, UK

    Mar 23, 2006
    Spotify is a million times better than Apple Music.
  18. AxiomaticRubric macrumors 6502


    Sep 24, 2010
    On Mars, Praising the Omnissiah
    Spotify has a far better related music algorithm in my experience. Spotify finds music I like in Daily Mixes. Apple Music tends to force rubbish Pop hits down my ear canals.
  19. Defthand macrumors 6502a

    Sep 1, 2010
    After a disappointing subscription to Tidal and an unremarkable Apple Music trial, I agreed to try Spotify. I’m not a fan of compressed sound files when I listen with hifi hardware, but the offerings are fine for the car and for music discovery. I actually prefer Spotify’s discovery features and recommendations. Spotify‘s presentation somehow reminds me of the record store experience, whereas Apple Music resembles a pretentious art gallery.
  20. fairuz macrumors 68000


    Aug 27, 2017
    Silicon Valley
    Impressive, considering how old Spotify is, how many more devices it can run on, and how much they're burning on free users.
  21. Abazigal macrumors G4


    Jul 18, 2011
    Still prefer Apple Music for the ecosystem. Be it storing music on my Apple Watch, or listening to it from my Apple TV, or locating a song via Siri. It’s all these little conveniences which add up.
  22. danny842003 macrumors 6502a


    Jun 6, 2017
    The problem with that attitude is the family packages.
    If they don’t support other devices people might be inclined to get Spotify instead.
  23. convergent macrumors 68030


    May 6, 2008
    And I basically get the same conveniences with Spotify.
  24. dnewkirk macrumors newbie


    Jun 8, 2015
    Los Angeles
    With their degree of success, Spotify till can't turn a profit. That's a big problem. That has to take its tole on the company eventually.
  25. bluecoast macrumors 6502a

    Nov 7, 2017
    People are still using windows 8!?


    Or do they work for companies with sadistic IT depts?

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