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I detest these "Only To New Customer" deals. A business should be valuing its existing customers like gold and give them the best deals. That is how we do it and it pays back with customer loyalty over the decades. Existing customers are our bread and butter, their regular purchases pay the bills and help us grow. They give us predictability in our production flow. New customers are nice but I don't give them a better deal my old customers. Old customers get the best deals.
 
I could be INCREDIBLY wrong, but those who chose to download Taylor Swift on Spotify are ***** out of luck.

Well at least with the new album same holds true on google music all access.

Not that I really care much about Taylor Swift anyway.
 
Call me old fashioned, but I prefer to own my music.

Im mostly with you on that though I do like streaming as well.

I love how people on this thread are talking about streaming Spotify for "X" years. Spotify probably wont be around in 10-20 years just as iTunes is now slowly fizzling away.

The ONLY constant is the music that you have on your computer/CD/Vinyl since there will always be some way to play it back. So many music services have come and gone and they will continue to do so.

My bet is that any longevity lies in Apple combining the beats software into a new iTunes radio service. The iTunes name is still very powerful and they can salvage it into something great. But even then who knows how long it will last.

My favorite music WILL ALWAYS be downloaded and backed up.
 
I detest these "Only To New Customer" deals. A business should be valuing its existing customers like gold and give them the best deals. That is how we do it and it pays back with customer loyalty over the decades. Existing customers are our bread and butter, their regular purchases pay the bills and help us grow. They give us predictability in our production flow. New customers are nice but I don't give them a better deal my old customers. Old customers get the best deals.

Deals for new customers are to demonstrate the service and prove that it's worth the money. People who are already paying full price already know it's worth the money (otherwise they wouldn't be spending it.)

If they want more loyal customers, rather than just giving long time users better deals, I think what they could do, that both you and I would like, is to allow everyone to bulk purchase at discount. Something like:

$9.99/month if single month purchased
$7.99/month if you commit to 12 months (1 year for $95.88. Just under what Beats currently sells a year for.)
$4.99/month if you commit to 120 months (10 years for $598.80. At the per month rate that it's thought Apple might do.)
 
Hmmmm ... the UK offer is buy one month of premium at £9.99 and get two months free.

That's about $16 for three months of Spotify, compared to less than $1 for US consumers. Feeling more than a little ripped off here.


Was going to give it a try instead of Deezer until I realised they were shafting the Brits again.
 
I dislike this type of 'incentive'. The purpose of this is to get your credit card on their opt out system which many people neglect and end up as loyal Spotify customers if they want it or not.



Obviously everyone can decide for themselves but there are more honest ways to attract new customers.


That's always been the way to pay for Spotify. Month by month automatic billing. Although I respect your concern for the irresponsible.
 
It looks like you can sync tracks you've downloaded from spotify to your computer to your iPod. I can't try it as I haven't got a Spotify Premium account.

https://support.spotify.com/uk/learn-more/guides/#!/article/How-to-sync-iPod-with-Spotify

That is incorrect. The article is explaining how to sync local music files (ones bought from iTunes, Amazon, etc.) using Spotify. Basically, Spotify is saying that along with iTunes, they can also manage your local music.
 
I used to torrent music, new albums downloaded on a weekly basis for years. Signed up for Spotify Premium (huge difference over the free version) over 3 1/2 years ago, and besides maybe one or two obscure songs or albums I wanted, I haven't torrented since. Plus all of the extra space on my iPhone I have now -- and when I fly I just make a quick playlist, check offline playing, and done.
 
Call me old fashioned, but I prefer to own my music.

I feel you, and I'm under 25. Other than this offer, I just don't spend enough on music from iTunes or Amazon in a year to make $9.99 a month seem cheap. How do I discover new music? It's called FM radio. It's in my car for free! I'm also extremely picky with music. With services like Pandora, I'll skip a new song if I don't think I'll like it. My only option with FM radio is to change stations. Since I mostly listen to Top 40, it's inevitable that the undesired song will come up again, and I'll get used to it. Plus my iTunes library has been developed over the course of 9 1/2 years. I don't need an algorithm to tell me what I'll like when I've had that long to do it myself. I also can't listen to Spotify on my iPod Classic.
 
Spotify + Vinyl

I used to just download everything from the net, paid almost nothing to anyone. Occasionally i buy CDs or Vinyl, but cant afford to get all of them.

With Spofity, I can discover lots of new songs,which gonna cost me a lot in the last 5-10 years.
If i like it a lot, then I'll get the vinyl.

If u make good songs, people will buy your stuff, go to your concert, or to your 50 people show in a pub. And I dont "steal" anymore. Good karma for me and Spotify too!
 
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How it hurts you [..] 83 years [..] How it hurts your favorite artists

Great work.

Please update your calculation with the adaption of the following parameters:
* listening period: very few people enjoy a period of being able to actively listen to or buy music over a span of 83 years
* for artists - liked alike disliked ones - it makes a great deal of a difference to earn the same amount of money within a few weeks compared to having it spreaded over almost one century, same goes for the spender with reversed sign.

Thanks you! ;)
 
I used to just download everything from the net, paid almost nothing to anyone. Occasionally i buy CDs or Vinyl, but cant afford to get all of them.

With Spofity, I can discover lots of new songs,which gonna cost me a lot in the last 5-10 years.
If i like it a lot, then I'll get the vinyl.

If u make good songs, people will buy your stuff, go to your concert, or to your 50 people show in a pub. And I dont "steal" anymore. Good karma for me and Spotify too!

I'm the same way except that I use iTunes Radio. I don't need spotify when I get iTunes Radio commercial free and with unlimited skips to on my jailbroken iPad/iPhone.

Nothing beats owning my music on vinyl. There are so many albums that I have that beat the sound quality even over CDs such as Moving Pictures by Rush.
 
I just like how I can listen to my itunes music within the Spotify app on the computer. For me, just that is worth the $9.99/month. If I really like the song, I would still buy it off iTunes for $0.99-$1.29 to have it on my iPhone 6+ to listen to it as much I want, offline.
 
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