Spotify doesn't bundle their Premium Family Plan w/ Ad-Free Hulu. I'm paying almost $30/month for both.
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Spotify Says Apple One Bundle Will Cause 'Irreparable Harm to Developer Community'
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Apple takes the 30% and runs the App Store allowing thousands of apps to be on the App Store for free. If you want to charge money for your app through the store then you pay the fee, if you don’t want to pay a fee then you don’t charge through the App Store or you pass it onto the customer who can then decide whether to pay you direct for a lower fee but share their personal info and payment info with you or pay the higher charge and keep their info private from you. Amazon managed to do this for years with the Kindle app etc.
And why won't Spotify let me download individual songs if I desire, instead of whole albums only?
If Spotify was in this amazing position in the music industry they wouldn't have knee-jerked such a response yesterday. Also the public was none too happy with Spotify making such a stupid public stink as their stocks plummeted huge today, and Spotify deserves it. As a consumer I don't like that type of unprofessionalism from Spotify or any company. It seems to be okay with Spotify that they bundle their services with other partners but Apple can't bundle their own services, according to Spotify. SMH.
Hey Spotify, go f yourself. If you don’t like ’s products go launch your own damn phone. The bundle literally will save me $300 per year off what I already pay for services, all while you rip Joe Rogan and podcasting in general from their root identities as open-source, free RSS-based entertainment... so you can seduce customers over to your platform like a dinner-party at the Cosby’s.
This is competition. Make your service better, cheaper, or whatever to attract customers. By just being the same, you’ll fall far behind.
Jeez. I can’t stand these cry baby CEOs.
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Exactly!
Jeez. I can’t stand these cry baby CEOs.
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Exactly!
- The music streaming company beat analysts’ expectations to reach 130 million paid subscribers for its premium service.
- Premium subscribers rose 31% from a year earlier. Analysts on average were expecting Spotify to have 128.6 million paid subscribers.
Spotify's subscribers, usage surge amid coronavirus outbreak
Spotify Technology reported a 22% jump in first-quarter revenue on Wednesday as the music streaming company beat analysts' expectations to reach 130 million paid subscribers for its premium service.
No corporation is based on anything but making money. If Spotify cries foul, it’s to make more money. If Apple discounts its music subscription, it’s ultimately a way to make money. If Apple donates a tiny amount to fire relief or whatever, it’s to make money by burnishing its image as a “good company” and (wait for it) make money.
Don't get me wrong, I love Apple products and services and and have been buying them for decades. But I'm always surprised at how many people take this tribalistic "fanboi" approach and forget that this is a gigantic corporation which exists solely to make money for its shareholders, period.
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Making it official? Antitrust complaint?
www.thurrott.com
Spotify Issues Antitrust Complaint About Apple One - Thurrott.com
Spotify has already issued an antitrust complaint about Apple One, Apple’s bundling of its own online services.
www.thurrott.com
Because Apple takes 30% off what Spotify charges. So Apple gets 100% of what it charges plus a 30% extra off Spotify. So in short Apple gets 130% and Spotify only 70%. How can you compete in this scenario?
You’re soooooo cool! So hip. So edgy.
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Probably. I could at least play Xbox games while on the go then. UnlikeiPhones.
You might also discover that you like some of the other services if there is no barrier to using them. You might not.
This situation is obviously very different. Apple manufactures the product and is well within its rights to put its own software on it to the exclusion of anyone else. That's exactly the right of OEMs that Microsoft was found to be impeding.
I’ve considered leaving Spotify for Apple Music a couple of times for reasons including paying artists a little more per stream (very little I am aware).
After trialing Apple Music, I much prefer Spotify. My circle of friends are on Spotify so sharing music is convenient that way. My speakers stream directly from Spotify as opposed to streaming Apple Music from my phone (getting interrupted if i were to play a video on social media and poorer audio quality).
I much prefer the content available on Netflix over Apple TV and I don’t use iCloud. So I don’t think I will subscribe to Apple one.
I know my friends are on the same boat as I am. Which makes me genuinely curious as to how many others are in a similar position as I am and will continue subscribing to streaming services outside of Apple. If there are a lot of people like myself, does Spotify really need to worry? Are they over reacting? Publicity stunt? Or something else?
Just the fact of being sued doesn’t mean that they a) can’t do it or b) that it’s illegal. I could sue you for whatever reason I like, it doesn’t mean it has any standing.
”But Microsoft was sued because they bundled IE with windows!” - that’s an incredibly simplistic and factually incorrect view of what happened. MS was a monopoly in desktop OS‘s which is not in itself illegal. What was illegal was using it’s position to coerce OEM’s to pre-install Windows on their hardware at threat of sanctions which further reinforced their dominance. This bundling of IE was tied to Windows which was tied to the coercive tactics used against OEM’s to have Windows pre-installed on every desktop. Then, IE was given access to undocumented API’s that third parties didn’t have access to and the whole shebang was premeditated.
Apple is vertically integrated which makes a big difference here - they ARE NOT forcing other device manufacturers to preinstall either iOS or any Apple service. There are no coercive tactics being used against any 3rd party. They are not a monopoly in any market that they operate and it is LEGAL/ expected that you have a monopoly on your own products and services.
If Apple wanted, they could bundle all of their services FOR FREE with the hardware and crush the competition and it would still be technically legal.
I’d love to hear how Apple is controlling your life, but it doesn’t sound like you’re interested in having a discussion.
If I felt that way, I’d dump them in a second and I sure as hell wouldn’t be posting on an Apple centric forum lol.
That’s what is self-evident to me. But other people have various hobbies. Or jobs lol. Stay edgy 🙂
No doubt they’ll complain, but that’s just a bad headline. Should have said voices antitrust complaint, not issues antitrust complaint.Making it official? Antitrust complaint?
Spotify Issues Antitrust Complaint About Apple One - Thurrott.com
Spotify has already issued an antitrust complaint about Apple One, Apple’s bundling of its own online services.
There’s no such thing as issuing an antitrust complaint via a press release. It would be a legal filing with the appropriate governing body.
Only if you sign up from within the app. Otherwise Spotify keeps 100%.
Same. Everyone I know is on Spotify, and the direct streaming it’s super handy. I really appreciate being able to install Spotify on multiple devices and control playback from any of them.
No, apple doesn’t get 30% of Spotify. Apple gets 15%, and that’s assuming the user signed up through apple.
Well by your notes Spotify had no reason to throw that knee-jerk reaction yesterday. But they did, so it proves they have more to worry about than you or the rest of us know about.
- The music streaming company beat analysts’ expectations to reach 130 million paid subscribers for its premium service.
- Premium subscribers rose 31% from a year earlier. Analysts on average were expecting Spotify to have 128.6 million paid subscribers.
Spotify's subscribers, usage surge amid coronavirus outbreak
Spotify Technology reported a 22% jump in first-quarter revenue on Wednesday as the music streaming company beat analysts' expectations to reach 130 million paid subscribers for its premium service.www.cnbc.com
Spotify is in trouble. Not because of Apple's Apple One bundle, but when a company starts looking at how much money they are paying for the access to the platform, and now start whining about it.
another thing you never see from the whiner's community is that Apple's fee from a subscription after the 1st year falls to 15% for the second year and every year after that. But if a company is not willing to give an incentive of a reduced price for a full year commitment, then people will not go for the full year at a time.
I personally was never impressed with Spotify myself. Apple won my business with a good experience, a price break for a full year subscription, and never gave me a reason to cancel it.
another thing you never see from the whiner's community is that Apple's fee from a subscription after the 1st year falls to 15% for the second year and every year after that. But if a company is not willing to give an incentive of a reduced price for a full year commitment, then people will not go for the full year at a time.
I personally was never impressed with Spotify myself. Apple won my business with a good experience, a price break for a full year subscription, and never gave me a reason to cancel it.
That would be a 3rd party Bundle not a Spotify Bundle... Since Spotify doesn't own Hulu and Showtime