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I really think apple should buy tmobile USA. It would give them a huge competitive advantage particularly with the industry going towards mobile computing.

Unfortunately that is an illegal trade practice in the USA. After the Ma Bell breakup, any one business entity can either provide equipment (Apple) or the carrier service (AT&T) or the content (Google, Yahoo et. al.) but not any two nor all three.

I'm sure some Bar Member guy will chime in on this and his detailed feedback is welcome.
 
Does somebody know if the Overdrive would work in european GSM service or if there is a version of Overdrive to use in Europe operator free?
 
The whole LTE verses WiMAX in an "epic-battle" thing is silly. It's over-hyped, illogical and most of the accusations are unfounded.

While it's less likely that the two formats will literally converge into one single format, it's not really a bad thing. They'll end up working together to cover different applications/uses. Furthermore, considering ever-increasing bandwidth needs, it's all the more important to have a lot of spectrum space available, and that's where the real differences will come in to play when LTE-Advanced and WiMAX 2/802.16m hold to an equal "4G" standard as set by the ITU.

WiMAX 2: http://www.wimax.com/commentary/blo...max-2-networks-ready-in-2012,-says-intel-0309

LTE-Advanced: http://www.dailywireless.org/2009/10/09/imt-advanced-submitted-to-itu/

But something to always keep in mind, and it's been noted by the WiMAX group numerous times the last couple years, is that the WiMAX infrastructure can rather easily (mostly a software issue) be converted to LTE at some point if the value arises.

A good perspective on the similarities and the still-open door to convergence can be found here: http://www.telecomseurope.net/content/wimax-lte-convergence-one-year

Any way it goes though, I really doubt we'll see any LTE vs. WiMAX wars in mobile devices especially. By the time it's truly relevant on a mass level, if not almost immediately, devices will likely be capable of handling both formats without a hitch. Again, there's a lot more in common between WiMAX and LTE than some realize, and both parties know they need each other to have the spectrum to handle our hunger for bandwidth.

Also, it's interesting to remember that Comcast (Time Warner as well I believe) is in on the whole WiMAX/Clearwire deal as well, and that should give you an indication of how WiMAX and possibly even Sprint will play into the broader equation. Soon enough, we won't be paying for mobile data, home data, home phone, mobile phone, cable TV...we'll just be paying for data.

In one shape or another, LTE and WiMAX will coexist in the 4G world, and it's a good thing. They're really not so different so much as complimentary. It'll keep getting smoother as the latest standards emerge, all the more so as hardware manufacturers begin to utilize the latest technology that takes advantage of both formats. I'm excited to see how it all plays out.
 
The smallprint at the bottom of the ad says that expected speeds are 4-6 Mb/s. How does Sprint get away with calling it "4G" when you can get those speeds with HSPA (3G)?

True Story... the iPhone 3GS which has the hsdpa (3G) chipset can actually do speeds of 7.2mbps so Sprint's "4G" is slower than At&t's 3G....lame.:apple:
 
Pics or it didn't happen!

With an HSPA data card:

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A "normal" result is more like this though:

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Edit: A new test with an HSPA+ card:

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3G has a bit of life left in it! :)
 
I wish us Canadians got such good deals. Here a 500mb data plan on 3g is $25 a month. for HALF A GIG. Dont know what you people in the states are complaining about. $50 for unlimited 4g and 5GB of 3g is a steal compared to here. That would easily be $100 a month here.
 
The smallprint at the bottom of the ad says that expected speeds are 4-6 Mb/s. How does Sprint get away with calling it "4G" when you can get those speeds with HSPA (3G)?

...because a pilot that is spiraling out of control toward the ground at Mach 2 can say anything he wants.
 
Being on Sprint did a lot of good to Palm Pre. :rolleyes:



Sprint does not use world wide standard GSM.

What has GSM to do with anything? iPhone 3g/3gs uses UMTS. But I guess what you are trying to say is that they don't use UMTS either.
 
Companies are really abusing the 4G brand.

WiMAX is NOT 4G.
LTE is NOT 4G.
Since neither of the above fully lives up to the requirements set for 4G.
 
Someone asked: "Can you opt for no data on AT&T plan for iPhone?"

No, but you could buy an iPod Touch...

Actually nsayer, that makes no sense. Usually when someone says "data" in this context, they mean their download/upload allowance. So he/she wants no data plan, which means they still want to be able to call and text etc. Therefore the very last thing they would want is the iPod Touch.
 
I wish us Canadians got such good deals. Here a 500mb data plan on 3g is $25 a month. for HALF A GIG. Dont know what you people in the states are complaining about. $50 for unlimited 4g and 5GB of 3g is a steal compared to here. That would easily be $100 a month here.

Yes but have you seen how much we pay for healthcare when we can, makes your prices look like pennies. ;)
 
Cool!

Very cool product,

anyone notice that they used the lowest advertised 3G speed (600kbs) to the highest range of their 4G speed (6mbps). If you flip flop that marketing tech it's not even 2 times faster (top 3G of 1.7mbs and lowest 4G 3mbs).
 
Any chance a new iPhone could contain this 4G built in?

You can count on the fact that the iPhone (and all other smartphones) will contain 4G. It will likely take longer in the US than most countries. The US is a 3rd world country when it comes to wireless.

/Jim
 
You just passed a health care bill that is similar to ours now. Also should we get into the gas prices here?

Thank goodness for the new health care bill - it puts the United States back into the first world.

Hopefully, we'll soon be able to get our gas prices doubled or tripled - and channel the funds into mass transit or other technologies more sustainable than every tea partier in her own SUV.

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let me educate you

okay first off i have been a sprint customer for 10 years and i am affiliated with them in other ways but that by no means have twisted my views at all. i will give you straight facts. First off for those of you that don't like the idea of sprint getting the iphone because of GSM is wrong thinking. GSM is an old technology and it would cost too much for the countries over seas to change networks. Also all they have to do is come up with a world phone that allows a sim card when your overseas anyways. Most people who take their iphones overseas don't use att's sim they change to one that is sold in the country that they are in so its cheaper. Next the reason they say theoretical speeds is they don't want people upset if they aren't getting the fastest speeds possible. Just remember everything can affect a signal for example wind, buildings, solar flare's pretty much all things can affect your signal. Now on to my third and final point for those of you upset with no tethering even though you have an unlimited data plan on your phone. Here is what i have to say to that, the data plan phone you phone is exactly that for your phone not to run a computer on 3g. Back when you could do tethering it was because there was tons of room on the bandwidth, now almost all phones and aircards are using the 3g networks and it kills the bandwidth so that it runs really slow. Also companies get fined for going over there preset amount of bandwidth which is mandated by the FCC. That is why they are bring it back to be on the 4G Evo and all 4G phones because there is more bandwidth and less people on there now they do charge for it but they are a business and have to make money on their technology, just like any good company that wants to stay alive must do.
 
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