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Also how come everyone brings Android vs iPhone into every post. Android wasn't even mentioned here yet someone had to drag it into this post to start a war.
 
It's the Network... say Whaaaaat...

So, if your happy that the iPhone finds wifi faster and gets off your data network, what does that say of your network?

BOO-YAH! :eek:
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Also how come everyone brings Android vs iPhone into every post. Android wasn't even mentioned here yet someone had to drag it into this post to start a war.

Android was mentioned in the article. It was stated that the iPhone picks up wifi better than Android so it gets off the Sprint network quicker.
 
So, if your happy that the iPhone finds wifi faster and gets off your data network, what does that say of your network?

BOO-YAH! :eek:
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Nothing at all. I fail to see the logic behind this statement. It means exactly what it means. As it stands right now WiFi is probably the best place to be for data anyways so the iPhone is smart and allows users to get the best possible connection available.

Android was mentioned in the article. It was stated that the iPhone picks up wifi better than Android so it gets off the Sprint network quicker.

So that starts a specs war right? Why can't people just take it for what it is. No need to always defend Apple to the bitter end or visa-versa. This article is going to turn into another #$%storm because fanboyism on both sides. Android and iOS are both excellent platforms. If you like the iPhone and iOS great! If you want more choices in phones and on the OS then Android is great! Apple doesn't have the be the supreme leader and one stop shop for everything. I love my Macs but I also love my Android phone. Doesn't mean I won't even get an iPhone I just see the benefits of both.
 
You don't understand the article.

They are saying that:

a) iPhones are very quick to connect to Wi-Fi when it is available, avoiding usage of the cellular network.

b) The restrictions that Apple places on App developers result in Apps that don't use as much data.

The first of these things is a problem with Android - something that Apple CAN be proud about, but the second is absolutely NOT something that anyone should be excited about other than Apple's carrier partners who are restricting what WE can do with OUR devices.

The article certainly does not say that iPhone performs better on the network.

You don't understand my post. I meant exactly that. :D
 
It seems like a point that I made in a different post, which was downvoted btw, is now confirmed: Sprint IS at some point planning on not offering unlimited data. Then what will their commercials say?
 
It seems like a point that I made in a different post, which was downvoted btw, is now confirmed: Sprint IS at some point planning on not offering unlimited data. Then what will their commercials say?

How is that confirmed? Did Sprint say we are going to phase out Unlimited Data plans?
 
Sprint doesn't say the iPhone performs better or worse. Sprint is only saying that iPhones are better behaved when it comes to network access. As in, they use less data. So the network can sustain more users, better.

Now, what does this actually mean? It means that Android devices use more data than iPhones. Not as a total of all Android versus all iOS, but per device. In the past, T-mobile mentioned problems like this before too.

But why? Things get more subtle.

Basically, it's because of the multitasking apps which continually poll data on Android are forced on iOS to use the push notification system, which is more efficient. Android 2 copied this feature as "Cloud to Device", but as Apple already knew, developers are lazy to change to better code when their existing code works.

Those who think a little further would realize that using the network less equates to better battery life, the bane of Android user's existence.

So, if I understand that correctly, the iPhone uses less data transfer doing the same job i.e. uses less resources for the same result i.e. performs better? If I have 2 cars, one using a 5.0l V8 to get 200HP and 10mil/gal and another one has a 5.0l V8 with 500HP and 15mil/gal, I would say the second one performs better.

Especially if you have a limited network speed, you wan the phone which gets most out of it. Therefore it performs better. :D
 
How is that confirmed? Did Sprint say we are going to phase out Unlimited Data plans?

Well I think those with unlimited now will be grandfathered in like AT&T and Verizon did, but it looks like everyone else won't have that option at some point, hence the title of the article:

Sprint CEO Says iPhone Extends Ability to Offer Unlimited Data
 
Nothing at all. I fail to see the logic behind this statement. It means exactly what it means. As it stands right now WiFi is probably the best place to be for data anyways so the iPhone is smart and allows users to get the best possible connection available.



So that starts a specs war right? Why can't people just take it for what it is. No need to always defend Apple to the bitter end or visa-versa. This article is going to turn into another #$%storm because fanboyism on both sides. Android and iOS are both excellent platforms. If you like the iPhone and iOS great! If you want more choices in phones and on the OS then Android is great! Apple doesn't have the be the supreme leader and one stop shop for everything. I love my Macs but I also love my Android phone. Doesn't mean I won't even get an iPhone I just see the benefits of both.

I was just pointing out that Android was mentioned in the article. I wasn't saying it justified a spec war, but that's what usually happens here. I certainly don't think that Apple is the end all of end all's. There are several good Android phones on the market.
 
You don't understand my post. I meant exactly that. :D

Your post said the exact opposite:

Okay Android owners, begin the crying... :D

Android owners have nothing to cry about.

The usage of their phone is not restricted to appease Google's carrier partners.

Something like "But my Android has a faster processor, more RAM..." Reality is: The Network Provider tells us: iPhone performs better despite. Even from the network side.

Sprint did not say anything about this in the article.

Hence, why I don't think you understood the article.
 
Android owners have nothing to cry about.

Other than if they are on the sprint network, their phone performs worse if network capacity is limited. Also: I have seen so many Android users complaining about iPhones and boasting about their Androids. That's what I was hinting at.

The usage of their phone is not restricted to appease Google's carrier partners.

It is restricted by slow network speed. Other carriers even worse: Data is limited or costs extra. iPhone gets you further then.

Sprint did not say anything about this in the article.

Hence, why I don't think you understood the article.

Funny part is: If the iPhone performs "better" then automatically someone has to perform "worse" or they would be "equal." So, they don't have to mention things which are implied.
 
Sprint 3G speeds?

Can someone please tell me in "MB's" what your download speeds are for Sprint. On a 3G non iPhone. No 4G results please, only 3G speeds.
Thanks!
 
So really... how much slower is the Sprint iPhone? Like, can I not stream Video with it? I one time tried to use Slingbox on AT&T 3G, it was usable, but I also used 300MB of data in half an hour.

As long as it works, that's fine, but if certain apps are unusable that's a different story. There is something to be said about when it's cheaper to download a movie on iTunes than to stream it over 3G with the current data costs.
 
Funny part is: If the iPhone performs "better" then automatically someone has to perform "worse" or they would be "equal." So, they don't have to mention things which are implied.

Funny part is: anyone thinking this is anything but a way to talk about unlimited data in public again.
 
It feels really strange to me that they can offer more data to customers because they simply have a device that spends more of its time not using their service. What happens if people actually start using the unlimited data while off WiFi?
 
I was just pointing out that Android was mentioned in the article. I wasn't saying it justified a spec war, but that's what usually happens here. I certainly don't think that Apple is the end all of end all's. There are several good Android phones on the market.

Fair enough. I agree with you.
 
8-10X slower!

So really... how much slower is the Sprint iPhone? Like, can I not stream Video with it? I one time tried to use Slingbox on AT&T 3G, it was usable, but I also used 300MB of data in half an hour.

As long as it works, that's fine, but if certain apps are unusable that's a different story. There is something to be said about when it's cheaper to download a movie on iTunes than to stream it over 3G with the current data costs.

ATT can get above 5mb down with the iPhone 4 in a decent 3G coverage market. The 4S on Att should pull speeds in ups of 14mb down! Verizon can't do much better than 3/4mbdown ANYWHERE! The Sprint iPhone because of some data issues is not getting better than 1mb down accross the NATION! A total joke! I just asked the group what are speeds supposed to be on Sprint on a non iPhone
 
For those that don't speak businessese, I'll translate:
Connect to WiFi whenever possible, or you will loose your unlimited data.

Bottom line is what he is trying to do is make sure people connect to Wifi first, then their network, it does reduce the demand on their network. But that is not the correct solution, the correct solution is for all of the carrier to fix their networks.
 
ATT can get above 5mb down with the iPhone 4 in a decent 3G coverage market. The 4S on Att should pull speeds in ups of 14mb down! Verizon can't do much better than 3/4mbdown ANYWHERE! The Sprint iPhone because of some data issues is not getting better than 1mb down accross the NATION! A total joke! I just asked the group what are speeds supposed to be on Sprint on a non iPhone

I think the issue is a mix of Apple and Sprint because with 1 bar in a hospital (bad service always in hospitals!) I am pulling 2mb down.
 
Think of it this way... Sprint is jumping on the LTE wagon, and when LTE is released, they will start capping Data... Then the people who got unlimited plans with the iPhone can be locked in for the iPhone 5 :)
 
ATT can get above 5mb down with the iPhone 4 in a decent 3G coverage market. The 4S on Att should pull speeds in ups of 14mb down! Verizon can't do much better than 3/4mbdown ANYWHERE! The Sprint iPhone because of some data issues is not getting better than 1mb down accross the NATION! A total joke! I just asked the group what are speeds supposed to be on Sprint on a non iPhone

But what about PERFORMANCE! All these Mbps don't mean much to me if those phones are actually performing similarly. Check out this video for example. I know network performance is based on area blah blah blah, but this is a clip of loading a YouTube video on all 3 networks at the same time

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wd7taHnHzcg&t=3m15s

-Verizon starts playing the video first, but lags midway through
-Sprint starts playing the video second, and actually gets farther into the video faster than any of the other three.
-AT&T starts playing the video last.

And then at the end of the video when they do the speed test,
-Verizon downloads @ .26 MBps
-Spring downloads @ .16 MBps
-AT&T downloads @ .65 MBps

(these are MBps, right?)

So... even though earlier in the test Spring can't download a webpage fast, it's performing better at streaming a video with the slowest download rate?
 
My sprint iPhone is plenty fast. I don't notice a difference coming from AT&T at all. So I don't feel the pain
 
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