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Since when do good and cellular service go hand in hand? Seriously, is it good anywhere? I've traveled around the US and in general it seems to be marginal at best.

Those of you who have good service with Cingular should consider yourselves lucky.
 
I doubt we'll ever see a non-GSM iPhone, so I'd guess Sprint and Verizon will never get the iPhone.

And AT&T has by far the best coverage in Dallas. That's all that matters to me.
 
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Just so everyone is reading this correctly, they have an exclusivity deal with cingular for the iphone...this does not mean they cant make an iphone 2 or make a whole new version of the iphone and name it something else for another carrier. I don't think that they made as much money on the phone as they had hoped and will probably end up switching to another carrier or multiple carriers. This would definitely be a great move on their part seeing all the built up hype amongst the other carriers, it would sell like mad; not to mention all of the cingular users that already spent a bundle on their original iPhones, how many people do they think will buy the second one, or can even afford the new one after they have spent an exorbitant amount of money not only on the phone, itself, but the service as well.
 
Looks like it'll be 6 years then, unless I move away from Boston. Cingular's network in the Boston suburbs is terrible.

Where specifically are you in the suburbs? I lived in MA for several years, and had AT&T/Cingular the whole time with no issues. Watertown, Waltham, Natick, Framingham, Shrewsbury, Worcester, Brookline, Cambridge, Brighton, etc all were great for me. I honestly can't recall any serious dead spots, except deep into the Target in Watertown Mall. Maybe it's the phone you used?


All that is official is "multi-year," which could mean 2, 3, 4, or even 6 (SIX!!) years, yes. But USA Today reported five years and other sources have said three. The deal may only preclude Apple developing a CDMA iPhone, or perhaps a CDMA iPhone for 5-6 years, but not necessarily offering a GSM iPhone on another carrier (*cough*T-Mo*cough*) in a lesser timeframe. Nobody really knows, so we're all just theorizing. I've not heard six years until this thread, so take it with a grain of salt.

Anyway, it'll be at least 2-3 years, I'm sure. :)

T-Mobile is TINY as far as coverage and subscribers. Unless T-Mobile Germany leans heavily on Apple, there's no incentive for them to go to T-Mobile, they've already got a sweetheart deal with AT&T.


Just so everyone is reading this correctly, they have an exclusivity deal with cingular for the iphone...this does not mean they cant make an iphone 2 or make a whole new version of the iphone and name it something else for another carrier. I don't think that they made as much money on the phone as they had hoped and will probably end up switching to another carrier or multiple carriers. This would definitely be a great move on their part seeing all the built up hype amongst the other carriers, it would sell like mad; not to mention all of the cingular users that already spent a bundle on their original iPhones, how many people do they think will buy the second one, or can even afford the new one after they have spent an exorbitant amount of money not only on the phone, itself, but the service as well.

Um...while you might be right, I really doubt AT&T's lawyers agreed to a 5 year exclusivity on ONE version of a product. Can you name any other cellular phone that has been on the market for 5 years? It's highly unlikely the exclusivity would stretch that far without ongoing generational guarantees.
 
im not saying they will stop production and the generations of the iphone for at&t, but it would be a smart move for them to come out with another phone for other carriers due to the increased amount of hype, they are missing out on a lot of sales. it doesnt even have to look like the iphone, just leaving it out there, so you see there are always ways around that stuff :)
 
im not saying they will stop production and the generations of the iphone for at&t, but it would be a smart move for them to come out with another phone for other carriers due to the increased amount of hype, they are missing out on a lot of sales. it doesnt even have to look like the iphone, just leaving it out there, so you see there are always ways around that stuff :)

I get what you're saying, but I still think AT&T had a phalanx of lawyers go over every loophole, and I really doubt Apple is giving all that revenue to AT&T unless AT&T is getting a whole lot for it.
 
I ported over from Sprint this weekend. I am (was?) in a contract with Sprint, and obviously will need to pay a cancellation fee.

Well, the porting was easy, called an 800 #, it was complete an hour later.

I just tried to log onto my Sprint plan online, and it doesn't exist.

So my question is: Is cancelling automatically done as the port transfer is completed? Or do I have to call Sprint and cancel myself? I guess if it's automatic, I just sit and wait on Sprint to send the final bill....yikes.

I did the same thing when I got my iPhone. When I called Sprint to cancel, they told me it was already canceled automatically once I ported out. I'd call to be safe - that way, you'll get to experience that award-winning Sprint customer support one last time!
 
As for the porting question, once you port your number to another carrier it automatically cancels out the number on the old carrier. Your number can only be on one account at a time, no matter what carrier you are on, you activate it on one account, the system sees that it was activated more recently on the new carrier to it automatically cancels out. I would expect your sprint bill to be your bill (prorated) + 200 for early termination (if still in contract) and it will come whenever your bill normally comes in. If you do not receive a bill please do not assume that they forgot to charge you, because trust me, they didnt :)
 
5 years...


Call me weird but if someone gave me a FREE iPhone I'd probably not use it. I rely on my phone to speak to customers - the Cingular network in jolly old Beantown just does not cut it.

Those of you who have good service with Cingular should consider yourselves lucky.

Well, I guess I consider myself lucky. I had Sprint since 1997- when the network went live in November in LA and Orange county. It was cool to have a small digital cell phone back then, and that was the leap for me. But after trying the iphone, it was the same leap over having any previous cell phone from no phone at all. I broke my sprint agreement in the middle of contract after renewign four times for ne wphones, and have never looked back. Att's network has been phenomenal- at least as good as Sprint's. Maybe the phones you were using to test Att's network just sucked.
 
Just so everyone is reading this correctly, they have an exclusivity deal with cingular for the iphone...this does not mean they cant make an iphone 2 or make a whole new version of the iphone and name it something else for another carrier. I don't think that they made as much money on the phone as they had hoped and will probably end up switching to another carrier or multiple carriers. This would definitely be a great move on their part seeing all the built up hype amongst the other carriers, it would sell like mad; not to mention all of the cingular users that already spent a bundle on their original iPhones, how many people do they think will buy the second one, or can even afford the new one after they have spent an exorbitant amount of money not only on the phone, itself, but the service as well.

Yeah.. :rolleyes: I highly doubt Apple's lawyers slipped in the loophole that tacking on a 2 to the end of the iphone name will get them out of exclusivity with ATT.

The fact that most people here are missing is that they got a phenomenal deal with ATT. They are revenue sharing off of every single plan that attaches to an iphone- you buy a used iphone off of ebay when the 3g iphone comes out this year and activate it on ATT- guess what? Apple is getting a share of that revenue. that's why they don't like the unlocked phones on other carriers, that's why they want to stay with ATT- because Apple negotiated a sweet deal with ATT, and as part of the deal ATT said that they needed exclusivity for 5 years- it was mentioned up above- the exclusivity is 5 years, not six or 4 or 3. that was a sticking point with negotiations with Verizon, who was originally approached about the iphone.

The iphone is a poison pill to any of these carriers. Never before has a device been so compelling as to cause this many people to switch out of their contracts and pay a cancellation fee just to use a device. The razor came close, so did the blackbery, but neither touched the iphone.

The fact is, apple could have leased networks or bought minutes like other small carriers, sold their own device, and pulled subscribers away from other carriers if no one would give them their terms. It is that good. It is a poison pill because these carriers are either going to pay now or later. The iphone is so popular that even if exclusivity ended tomorrow with ATT, they could force other carriers to revenue share with them or not release the phone for their networks. For Att, it was simply a matter of paying Apple a share of their revenue stream now, or paying part of their revenue stream later by losing subscribers.
 
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