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The issues I meant were the saturation/call quality, data, and text messaging speed. I've noticed that my T-Mobile phone doesn't seem to experience the issues my CDMA phone does.

Ah, it was a really good move for Softbank then. No compatibility issues. Are their frequencies the same as ours here?
 
The issues I meant were the saturation/call quality, data, and text messaging speed. I've noticed that my T-Mobile phone doesn't seem to experience the issues my CDMA phone does.

Ah, it was a really good move for Softbank then. No compatibility issues. Are their frequencies the same as ours here?
I think, like anything it depends on the network. We (my wife and I) have been fortunate in our area that calls/messaging weren't really affected by the whole Sprint LTE rollout. But Sprint had great 3G coverage when we moved to Phoenix in 2000. So, all of that was already here to cover a major city of 5 million plus people. Call quality was one of the reasons we chose Sprint in 1999 and it's also one of the reasons we stayed. With my wife getting her iPhone 5 in September, the call quality has even been better.

But calls/messages are actually done over 1xRTT on Sprint and not 3G and THAT network is even MORE developed than 3G.

However, lots of places in the country where people are having lots of issues and that's because Sprint has got everything in a mess right now. Once NV is built out that's all expected to resolve itself. Almost every tower that Sprint is replacing equipment on will have LTE as well as the towers it got from Clearwire. Softbank's money allowed Sprint to go ahead and make the plans to upgrade the Clear towers when it had not originally been in the plan.

Doing that is going to take a lot of congestion/saturation off the 3G parts of each tower (which will be also connected via fiber optic backhaul now and not the old copper). That should speed things up considerably.

Your T-Mobile phone is probably not experiencing the same issues because that network has already been set up. In town anyway Go rural and you will probably drop to EDGE.

No idea on the frequencies in Japan, but a cursory Google search says no.
 
I seem to get great speeds and service so far.
Lte of course
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I seem to get great speeds and service so far.
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Yeah, it's been decently useable. Sprint will never win over the others in speed of course, except maybe in a Spark area, but that speed is more than enough to stream music and use the internet.

This is at work this morning. Nothing to write home about, but considering that LTE at work has been about a third of this speed I'll take it. I'm also getting this speed from the tower closest to work now, which went live with LTE just last night. Upload speed sucks, but oh well.

At home I'm getting about 12-15mbps down.
 

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Last week Sprint finally announced my area for LTE coverage almost a full year after it was supposed to be launched - The NV rollout has been like watching paint dry / glad I took my business somewhere else 18 months ago. My Verizon service has been awesome

Once it is completed I am sure the unlimited plans will go bye bye except for the guaranteed for life plans / hopefully they won't make a bone head move like the $ 10 premium data fee or the $4.99 ASL fee and alienate some more customers during the transition but make a plan change required after an upgrade or contract end

I think it's time for a change in the US carriers are holding our wallet hostage with data while carriers in other countries have better offers - I can't wait to see if tmobile continues that carrier stir up in the US
 
Once it is completed I am sure the unlimited plans will go bye bye except for the guaranteed for life plans / hopefully they won't make a bone head move like the $ 10 premium data fee or the $4.99 ASL fee and alienate some more customers during the transition but make a plan change required after an upgrade or contract end
Dan Hesse has said he has no intention of getting rid of unlimited. I don't know how true that statement ultimately is, but right now it should hold for a few years.

The new All-In and My Way plans have this "guarantee" of course, but the old Everything Data plans, of which I am on, were all marketed as unlimited. The only thing Sprint can do with this is force us on to the new plans (which are more expensive for fewer lines). They can't take away the unlimited. Oh they could of course, because there is no "guarantee" but there will be a fight over it.

I'm not moving off my ED plan until my hand is forced.

As to the premium data fee. Originally, and no matter how hard Sprint tries to deny it retroactively, that fee was a 4G fee only for the HTC Evo. Then in late 2010 they applied it to all of us. I didn't have to pay because I had two grandathered HTC Touch Pro's then. But I am paying now, because my wife's iPhone and mine are not grandfathered. However, we don't pay TEP, so that's only increased our bill by $4.

The new plans do NOT have the data fee. It's rolled into the base price of the plan. If you want unlimited you simply pay $30 per line. No more arguing about a fee.

They should have done this a long time ago and just made the data fee part of the base cost of the ED plans. But Sprint has never been known for doing things in a smart manner.

Anyway, the Everything Data plans are now dead. You can only get the All-In and My Way plans now. So, I've got a grandfathered plan.

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Dan Hesse has said he has no intention of getting rid of unlimited. I don't know how true that statement ultimately is, but right now it should hold for a few years.

The new All-In and My Way plans have this "guarantee" of course, but the old Everything Data plans, of which I am on, were all marketed as unlimited. The only thing Sprint can do with this is force us on to the new plans (which are more expensive for fewer lines). They can't take away the unlimited. Oh they could of course, because there is no "guarantee" but there will be a fight over it.

I'm not moving off my ED plan until my hand is forced.

As to the premium data fee. Originally, and no matter how hard Sprint tries to deny it retroactively, that fee was a 4G fee only for the HTC Evo. Then in late 2010 they applied it to all of us. I didn't have to pay because I had two grandathered HTC Touch Pro's then. But I am paying now, because my wife's iPhone and mine are not grandfathered. However, we don't pay TEP, so that's only increased our bill by $4.

The new plans do NOT have the data fee. It's rolled into the base price of the plan. If you want unlimited you simply pay $30 per line. No more arguing about a fee.

They should have done this a long time ago and just made the data fee part of the base cost of the ED plans. But Sprint has never been known for doing things in a smart manner.

Anyway, the Everything Data plans are now dead. You can only get the All-In and My Way plans now. So, I've got a grandfathered plan.

I definitely think that simplifying the plans and not throwing around fees is easier to understand. Now I do think they've bundled in a few fees/base costs they shouldn't even be charging for. Though most consumers only just see the rate without knowing what's included. Fine print is getting smaller every year (or maybe I need new glasses).

I also think they are priced a tiny bit too high ($100-$110) as T-Mobile is at $70 unlimited everything. Since Sprint changed their plans, I'm not perfectly up to date. Do they still include free hotspot? With T-Mobile it's 2.5 GB then you get their upsell page but no overages. I think Sprint used to be 5 GB? I do think that T-Mobile should sell an "everything data plan" with little to no minutes and/or text. Though I can understand keeping it simple...
 
I definitely think that simplifying the plans and not throwing around fees is easier to understand. Now I do think they've bundled in a few fees/base costs they shouldn't even be charging for. Though most consumers only just see the rate without knowing what's included. Fine print is getting smaller every year (or maybe I need new glasses).

I also think they are priced a tiny bit too high ($100-$110) as T-Mobile is at $70 unlimited everything. Since Sprint changed their plans, I'm not perfectly up to date. Do they still include free hotspot? With T-Mobile it's 2.5 GB then you get their upsell page but no overages. I think Sprint used to be 5 GB? I do think that T-Mobile should sell an "everything data plan" with little to no minutes and/or text. Though I can understand keeping it simple...
Well, the new Unlimited My Way plans, which is what I'd have to get as those are multiple lines (All In is not) start with a base price, charge additional for every line and if you want unlimited data it's $30 per line.

You get 1GB of tethering for $10 and I think it's 6GB for $60 or something like that.

It wasn't advertised, but with the iPhone before the new plans you could get a 2GB hotspot for $20 and a 5GB hotspot for $40. I don't think those options are available now.

Also, with the new plans Sprint "optimizes" video at 1GB. Meaning, anything after 1GB is low quality.

You get a "guarantee" with the new plans that it's unlimited for life, and as long as you pay the $30 per line it's unlimited data. The rest is unlimited talk and unlimted text.

Compare to the old Everything Data plans which already have unlimited text and data. Of course you only get a set number of minutes, but with free nights and weekends, free Mobile to Mobile and Anytime Minutes AND add in Apple's new Facetime Audio calling (on iOS 7 devices) you aren't using any of those minutes for talk really. We have 1500 minutes. We hardly use them.

Even though we are paying the premium data fee because we are on the old plan, I still pay $20 less than I would if I was on one of the new plans.

As to the old 5GB hotspot, I'm not sure if they still have that. They cut off the "unlimited" a few years back and people weren't happy about that. It was 5GB, but since Sprint couldn't detect overage it was essentially being used as an unlimited hotspot. Until Sprint managed to install something that allowed them to detect overage.
 
http://www.forbes.com/sites/joanlap...print-management-in-2012-13/?partner=yahootix

The Five Top 'Fibs' Told By Sprint Management In 2012-13
1. We are not interested in buying Clearwire.

“One of the first things Son and Hesse announced at the time they announced their deal was the irrelevance to their merged activities of Clearwire. Not a soul on this planet ever believed that. So after crushing Clearwire in every way it could think of, Sprint made a bid for Clearwire not long later. The value of its spectrum was obvious to all. They pledged to not let Clearwire fail. There was no generosity there. It was because Son’s plan depended on the utilization of the 2.5Ghz spectrum that Son had used to good advantage to offer the fastest system available in Japan. It was my view in “Buy One Get One Free” that what Son wanted all along was Clearwire but he had to control Sprint to get it.” Joan Lappin Forbes.com 6/26/13

2. We don’t need all that Clearwire spectrum. It is irrelevant to us.

That was the best joke of all. Masayoshi Son got nothing much with Sprint except an ill run dog that spent years crashing from 70 to 2. Not all of that collapse was on Hesse’s watch but the last drop from 15 to 2 was. Son has already exploited 2.5 Ghz in Japan to build the fastest system there for voice and data. He knows how to compete with an excellent product. The only appeal to Sprint was its 50ish% ownership of Clearwire which , surprise surpise, owns a ton of 2.5 GHz spectrum.

3. We are staying in Kansas.

Before he even closed on the deal, Son procured office space in San Francisco near where he attended UC Berkeley. For sure, he didn’t want to be traveling to Kansas when California would do, especially for attracting top talent for his efforts to offer a truly excellent service to Americans, something about which Sprint knew little. Somehow, the Midwest is nice but it’s hard to explain why Overland just doesn’t pull the same quality people as SF. Maybe Hesse was telling the truth on this one but Son wanted no part of it.

As reported by Bloomberg on May 12, 2013,

“SoftBank Corp. bidding to take over Sprint Nextel Corp. (S) in a $20.1 billion deal, is planning a new Silicon Valley office for the U.S. carrier that would employ as many as 1,000 people.

‘Executives have already started holding monthly meetings in the California technology hub, which is partway between Softbank’s Tokyo headquarters and Sprint’s offices in Kansas. Masayoshi Son, president of the Japanese carrier, said he’s looking to inject more of an inventive spirit into Sprint and be an active chairman of the company.

“I’d like to bring Silicon Valley into the mix,” Son said in an interview last week. “We’re bringing SoftBank capital, our know-how and myself to this.”

‘Son, 55, also owns a mansion in Silicon Valley. He bought a 9-acre (3.6 hectare) estate in the suburb Woodside for $117.5 million cash in November 2012, a person with knowledge of the transaction has said. During his meetings last week, he pulled up to the Rosewood Hotel in Menlo Park in a gray Rolls-Royce.

“Silicon Valley is more convenient for me,” Son said.”
4. We are never paying more than the $2.90 we offered to pay for Clearwire on 12/13/2012

That was until shortly thereafter when they raised their bid to $2.97. Then there was Charlie Ergen and his DISH and his bid at $3.30 which Sprint had to match. Then there was Jamal Daniel, his Crest Financial, and other holders refusing to tender. Then there was a brief chink in the Clearwire armor when its special committee, supposedly independent but never much acting like it, favored an outside bid. Then there was the final bid at $5 when some of the short term hedgies folded their cards to take their short term gains. To be frank, that was far less than Clearwire holders should have received but it was a lot better than the price under $1 to which it fell when Sprint stupidly thought it could force Clearwire into bankruptcy and actually grab the spectrum. That final bid put Clearwire as a triple in 2013 making us glad we hung with it through thick and thin.

5. Expect to see us at the H block auctions…

Oh well, no we won’t be bidding after all. We have all that Clearwire spectrum and we don’t need to bid in the H block auctions at the FCC.

Rumors now are that Sprint and TMobile will consolidate. Three years ago my dream was three large, viable competitors in the United States so consumers would really have a viable alternative to ATT and Verizon. Against all odds, the FCC came down on my side of the anti-competitive argument that ATT should not be allowed to buy T Mobile. Perhaps 2014 will be the year in which we finally come to a triopoly from which consumers can chose. Rumors are rife now that Son is out trying to line up financing to buy T Mobile to bulk up his U.S. positions.

We own Sprint because the short guy who is very long on brains is running the show. The tall one is emoting on ethics and doing what he is told by a higher power. That’s good for shareholders.

It’s Christmas time. Hesse won some best CEO award this year. Maybe he will decide that being Pinocchio just doesn’t fit with his epistles on ethics or being some macher in the telecom industry. (for those who don’t live in NY or know any Yiddish a macher is a big deal.) For now, he is a tall man with a long nose. Maybe there is a patent medicine cure for this disease although ARoid certainly doesn’t know it. Maybe they used to sell it at Balcor but they are out of business now.
 

I saw that earlier.
And now, if that is possible, my opinion of s4gru.com has considerably gone downhill.

Lately there have been sexist remarks (from management no less) with no visible action taken by the administrator. You'll note that the thread I link to takes a tasteless turn into sex toys. Rather than rebut the points of the article it descends into this.

Probably attacking the author of the article (who is a woman) is the only thing they can do because she is correct on every point. They can't argue that what she said is NOT true.

Shame. But when the admins do nothing when an admin himself makes a base and tasteless comment to a female user (in another thread) then the users think it's ok to make their own comments, especially in light that the female user is not liked by the male users because of her opinions. Just wrong.

It was one thing not to like this site because I had a difference of opinion. But it's entirely another when you consider that comments such as this are allowed to stand without comment or reprimand.
 
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I saw that earlier.
And now, if that is possible, my opinion of s4gru.com has considerably gone downhill.

Yeah, that's where I got the article from. It's pathetic that they decide to attack the author, especially when she's right.

Those guys are truly delusional. Even worse than the T-Mobile apologists here and around the web.

I remember a few years ago when S4G first went up. They were proudly claiming that NV will be done at the end of 2013 and it would be a VZW-killer. So how'd that turn out guys?
 
Yeah, that's where I got the article from. It's pathetic that they decide to attack the author, especially when she's right.

Those guys are truly delusional. Even worse than the T-Mobile apologists here and around the web.

I remember a few years ago when S4G first went up. They were proudly claiming that NV will be done at the end of 2013 and it would be a VZW-killer. So how'd that turn out guys?
It doesn't help them that the company they support doesn't follow their script.

Something they should know, being Sprint users, but one of the fundamental things they always seem to forget. Sprint will always snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. Sprint is the Arizona Cardinals of cell carriers and no matter what promise they show, or promises they make, Sprint always has some way to f it up. Not recognizing that and worse, denying anything was ever said or done (or not done) is crazy!
 
Sprint LTE has made its way down the street and is sustainable in my house. Where as I could only get 3G before! Makes me excited for the rest of the expansion!
 
Yeah, that's where I got the article from. It's pathetic that they decide to attack the author, especially when she's right.

Those guys are truly delusional. Even worse than the T-Mobile apologists here and around the web.

I remember a few years ago when S4G first went up. They were proudly claiming that NV will be done at the end of 2013 and it would be a VZW-killer. So how'd that turn out guys?

I always read you bashing on tmobile, just out of curiosity, what's your carrier?
 
Sprint LTE has made its way down the street and is sustainable in my house. Where as I could only get 3G before! Makes me excited for the rest of the expansion!
Awesome! About time, but glad to see you finally got it!
 
Sprint LTE has made its way down the street and is sustainable in my house. Where as I could only get 3G before! Makes me excited for the rest of the expansion!

Awesome! I think they are improving in a lot of places. I think Softbank is really pushing them to do better. =)
 
I always read you bashing on tmobile, just out of curiosity, what's your carrier?

My personal line is AT&T. Work line is VZW. I also subscribe to TMobile service for my car, so my "bashing" isn't baseless. I speak from experience. They are truly junk in the Northeast.
 
Sprint get's his ire too, so he's an equal opportunity offender. :D

:D

Sprint is better than T-Mobile. I'm willing to make that claim.

I just checked sensorly, Sprint is filling in (albeit, slowly) LTE in Northern New England (NH and Maine.) T-Mobile is pretty much all EDGE up there.
 
My personal line is AT&T. Work line is VZW. I also subscribe to TMobile service for my car, so my "bashing" isn't baseless. I speak from experience. They are truly junk in the Northeast.
LOL….you are crying in the Sprint thread about T-Mobile too?
You have T-Mobile in your car?
You really do relish being the "debbie downer" in threads……negative….negative……negative. Stating personal opinions as fact…...
 
LOL….you are crying in the Sprint thread about T-Mobile too?
You have T-Mobile in your car?
You really do relish being the "debbie downer" in threads……negative….negative……negative. Stating personal opinions as fact…...

Grow up. You're detailing the thread with your BS agenda.
 
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Looks like GinaDee will be banned quite soon. :rolleyes:
I'm surprised she hasn't been already. Robert's already threatened to do that in not so many words in a different thread. Mainly because she was mentioning true but negative things about Sprint.

Doesn't matter if it's true over there. If it's "negative" it's a bannable offense!

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Looks like GinaDee will be banned quite soon. :rolleyes:
Oh, you may find this interesting. About a month ago or so. :rolleyes:
 
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