Spying Spouse?

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  1. buttercup123 macrumors newbie

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    It is possible to view websites after Safari has been reset? My spouse has said he can view every site I have been to even if Safari is reset? Is this possible? I browse with Private Browsing on and reset. While browsing today, after about 10 sites a window popped up with my history and then disappeared. I can not find it saved anywhere on the HD, but I am a relatively new Apple user. Is there a program that does this? Just curious.
     
  2. GoCubsGo macrumors Nehalem

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    I believe there are software programs designed to allow parents to keep track of what sites their children view. How it is incorporated into what appears to be a marriage lacking basic trust is beyond my scope of knowledge. However, the basic premise of the software applications are most likely not hindered by the age of the person being "spied" on.
     
  3. mkrishnan Moderator emeritus

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    Depending on the hardware you own, he can also typically configure the router to log a list of internet activity (including the websites you go to) and e-mail it to him periodically (which does not depend on the Mac's settings at all, really).

    As for the window that popped up on your screen, that part seems kind of odd to me. I would kind of think you may have triggered the Safari history window by mistake, e.g. from keyboard, although if you're in private mode it should be empty.

    Does sound like more of a marital therapy issue than an IT one, though... :( Why is your spouse monitoring your web travels?
     
  4. rdowns macrumors Penryn

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    Why would either of you need to hide web sites you visit? Sounds like a wonderful, trusting marriage and hubby installed some spying program.
     
  5. calebmedia macrumors member

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    He could be tracking you through the router. Even though you delete data from safari the ips and links have to travel through a router.
     
  6. buttercup123 thread starter macrumors newbie

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    Is there a way to see if the router is set up to do such a thing? Marital issues aside, I still want the IT information.

    I guess I'm wondering how to find out if I'm being "spied" on. How can I check?

    As for the history window that popped up, the text was larger than usual and not quite in the same spot. He has said he can see all that I see (exact pages and actually dictated a myspace message to me - from some stranger TRYING to be my friend, but I got who's that guy? - with these programs it saves a screen shot of every website?)

    This is the first time a history window has popped up though.

    Right now I just want to know how to see if anything like that is running.
     
  7. mkrishnan Moderator emeritus

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    Yeah, sure. Depending on the router, either point a web browser to the router (most router brands) or run the router configuration tool if you have such a router (e.g. Apple), and then it should be pretty easy to find.

    Here's an example of how Netgear's logging works:

    http://kbserver.netgear.com/kb_web_files/N101413.asp

    EDIT: FWIW, router logging does not save content -- like what was in your MySpace message. Neither do most of the "parental monitoring" type of web filters. The two major ways that people get that kind of information are... either keylogging (setting up a hidden program on the computer to monitor every keystroke) or getting one's password and then logging into their accounts themselves.
     
  8. buttercup123 thread starter macrumors newbie

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    How do I point a web browser to the router?
     
  9. MacDawg macrumors P6

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    Playing the IT game is a losers game. You cannot and will not win. If you are doing things you want to keep from your spouse and it involves technology of any kind (computer, cell phone, et. al.) you can be tracked/caught.

    You have two choices, go straight period or play the IT game clean at least
    Even then, if he wants to catch you, he will

    Woof, Woof - Dawg [​IMG]
     
  10. buttercup123 thread starter macrumors newbie

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    What about some sort of program? Don't they run in a sort of "stealth mode?"

    I don't want to keep things from him, but I do want to know if I'm being spied on. That'd be something big we would have to discuss.
     
  11. skunk macrumors G4

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    The only way to be sure of privacy is to get yourself an iPhone so you can access the web directly without going through the router.

    He's told you as much, hasn't he? What makes you think he won't see this conversation?
     
  12. akm3 macrumors 68020

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    My wife is a domestic violence perpetrator treatment provider.

    These kind of power and control issues almost always lead to abuse down the road! Good luck!
     
  13. nos macrumors member

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    Funny, to say the least… :p

    btw: I'm married
     
  14. buttercup123 thread starter macrumors newbie

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    I was simply told that there is a way to see actual sites after Safari has been reset. And yes, if this conversation is viewed, and is brought up, then that would be the perfect time to have the above mentioned discussion.
     
  15. redwarrior macrumors 603

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    There also are keyloggers that can be installed on the computer and will keep a log of keystrokes. This log can be accessed on the computer it's installed on, and there are some that can be set up to email the logs to an email address.

    These programs are very difficult to detect. However, there are also keylogger detection software programs that can run on your system and detect if there is a keylogger running.

    Some of these, keyloggers and keylogger detectors, are free. A simple search will show you plenty to choose from.
     
  16. skunk macrumors G4

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    As others have said, it would be easy enough to track your web visits through the router. Whatever you do to wipe the record from the Mac, the router record will not be affected.

    Best of luck with that discussion.
     
  17. buttercup123 thread starter macrumors newbie

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    I have never been hit at all. I suppose I deserve this. We were separated over the summer and I had a very close male friend that I did not tell him about. Because I hid this relationship I need to be watched. I have cut contact with this person. But that doesn't make me LIKE being spied on!

    Today I looked at friends' Halloween pictures on myspace. Which led me to other Halloween pictures on myspace (a friend, then the friend's friend's page, etc.) This would lead to "why were you on this guy's page?" I was looking at pix wouldn't fly, even though that was what I was doing.
     
  18. MacDawg macrumors P6

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    My heart goes out to you, truly
    I have too much of my own baggage to give advice here, so I will bow out

    Woof, Woof - Dawg [​IMG]
     
  19. zelmo macrumors 603

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    He could be using something like this, which can be configured to do a screen grab every few minutes or even seconds, depending on the level of paranoia.

    Good luck to you,
     
  20. buttercup123 thread starter macrumors newbie

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    Thanks Dawg. Wasn't trying to bring my "baggage" here. Sorry. :( But thanks for all the technical and mental support anyway. :)


    Wow. That stuff is over the top, but I guess everything has its place.

    Thanks.
     
  21. deriko100 macrumors 6502

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    If you have access to your router then you could reset it and then give it a new password and then you should be able to access the log and it should be reset so if anyones getting the log info it should stop when you reset your router.
     
  22. buttercup123 thread starter macrumors newbie

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    Do I necessarily have a router (tech-impaired)? We have Verizon DSL on one computer. I know there is a modem, router, too? I thought routers were for more than one computer (?) Boy do I feel dumb, and I don't like feeling dumb! :confused:
     
  23. Iscariot macrumors 68030

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    A router allows more than one device to access the internet at once. If you have wifi, you almost certainly have a router. If you have more than one computer hooked up at a given time, you almost certainly have a router. If you have a shared computer, then it could easily be software.

    Since you're asking for tech advice, I'll keep my nose out of the personal issues.
     
  24. deriko100 macrumors 6502

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    A router is used to broadcast the signal from the modem, some companys have modems some dont, I remember when I had Verizon Fios they had a modem/router so it was easyer, so I guess the one connected directly to the computer is either a modem or a router, if you could give me the model of the router/ or modem to check it online to see if its a modem or a router that would be great, or you could check your self on google so google something like MBP133LL/A and youll find some info, just a quick think before you check, are you using any wireless computer, or are you using the one connected directly to the verizon modem/or router, if your using it wirelessly check up top on the apple menu bar youll see some wireless signal those should mean your connected wireless, in that case do command space, type in system preferances click enter, then go to network then look for this under airport, AirPort 2 is connected to Blanks Network and has the IP address 192.168.1.150. If that works try typing in 192.168.1.1 in your web browser, it should ask you for your username and password, hope this helps, any problems respond.


    You could also try changing your internal IP address easily, if you want ill make a quick guide with pics.
     
  25. himansk macrumors regular

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    A lot easier method of spying could be through Apple's Remote Desktop.app, where your spouse would use the app to observe your screen without you knowing about it.
    By default, sharing the screen would add an icon to the menu bar, but that setting and permissions can be changed in System Preferences->Sharing->Remote Management <or> Screen Sharing
     

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