SSD for "enhanced durability" only?

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  1. sir42 macrumors 6502

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    In the online Apple Store, Apple suggests that:

    I thought the SSD was supposed to offer increased speed as well as enhanced durability, no? Has Apple always used the "enhanced durability" line in their copy, or did they also mention increased speed when the Air first came out?
     
  2. CoffeeWarrior macrumors regular

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    They may have neglected the "Speed" word due to the downgrade to SATA I.

    I also don't think durability is the correct word since it has less read/write cycles then a platter drive, but is more robust in terms of vibration and shock
     
  3. nuckinfutz macrumors 603

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    Enhanced durability is probably more important to highlight for laptop drives.
     
  4. CoffeeWarrior macrumors regular

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    They could have also put in the Speed word in there.
     
  5. Unprocessed1 macrumors 65816

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    Again, the rumors that apple did this intentionally are unfounded since there is no benefit to doing it (including p.r., battery life, price, energy consumption, etc.)

    The hardware is there, let's just pressure them to correct the problem.
     
  6. CoffeeWarrior macrumors regular

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    I'm an engineer and I believe they may have gotten a price cut in a large batch or had a large batch of SATA I
     
  7. Unprocessed1 macrumors 65816

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    Well your theory isn't panning out since the MBA description w/ 3.0 gig is:

    The same chipset is in the MBP's as the previous model. Apple wouldn't destroy SSD potential to save a few bucks (literally) per customer, and have to deal with all the negative P.R. and unhappy customers.
     
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  9. mikes70mustang macrumors 68000

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    Your mixing up durability with longevity
     
  10. mkrishnan Moderator emeritus

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    FWIW, wouldn't the faster SSDs outperform the fastest HDDs even using SATA I? I thought that there were not really (magnetic) notebook drives at this point that can top out the SATA I architecture, whereas the SSDs (some of them) can exceed it. So even if it runs at the top of the SATA I performance window, it'll still be faster than any HDDs on the market, right?
     
  11. bcaslis macrumors 68020

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    Right, you are correct. Additionally even before the lastest MBP update, Apple only sold SSDs for durability. They have never touted the SSD for speed as a selling factor.
     
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  13. NovemberWhiskey macrumors 68030

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    Maybe because they use the old, slow, Toshiba drives.
     
  14. Salavat23 macrumors 6502

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    They are Samsung.
     
  15. bcaslis macrumors 68020

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    They used Samsung in October 2008. But since the UMP 17" in February they seem to be using slower Toshibas.
     
  16. CoffeeWarrior macrumors regular

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    Toshiba's make the best Laptop drives
     
  17. Unprocessed1 macrumors 65816

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    Well, they definitely don't make the best SSD's. Toshiba's are pretty much crap compared to competitors (not even talking about Intel X-25).
     
  18. NovemberWhiskey macrumors 68030

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    Not the 256 gb ssd (old version) they use in the MBP line.
     
  19. CoffeeWarrior macrumors regular

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    I was referring to the old platter drives not ssd
     
  20. NovemberWhiskey macrumors 68030

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    Well what was the point of that comment? We are all talking about SSDs here.
     
  21. CoffeeWarrior macrumors regular

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    I'm sorry
     
  22. adamjackson macrumors 65816

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    Here's my system profiler says (2.93Ghz w/ 256GB SSD) Purchased last month.



    Capacity: 233.76 GB
    Model: APPLE SSD TS256
    Revision: W010011b
    Serial Number: 039920003063
    Native Command Queuing: No
    Removable Media: No
    Detachable Drive: No
    BSD Name: disk0
    Mac OS 9 Drivers: No
    Partition Map Type: GPT (GUID Partition Table)
    S.M.A.R.T. status: Verified
    Volumes:
    Macintosh HD:
    Capacity: 233.44 GB
    Available: 69.09 GB
    Writable: Yes
    File System: Journaled HFS+
    BSD Name: disk0s2
    Mount Point: /
     
  23. CoffeeWarrior macrumors regular

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    What are you trying to show ?
     
  24. adamjackson macrumors 65816

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    There was this "argument" between Toshiba or Samsung. I don't know what I have. I'm guessing it's Toshiba cause of the "t"
     
  25. CoffeeWarrior macrumors regular

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    In the same menu you were at, just click on the left side Seriel-ATA
     

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