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SSD intel g2 - upgrade problem

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ramirezzz

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Nov 28, 2007
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Hi ther
i have a intel g2 ssd (80mb)
so im been on the intel www and download upgrade for my ssd.
After upgrade check write speed on the AJA SYSTEM TEST and write speed is the same then before upgrade (about 80 mb/s)
Where is the problem?
why my ssd after upgrade no 100 mb/s write?
 
From Intel's performance PDF:
Intel® X18-M/X25-M SATA Solid State Drive -
34 nm Product Line
Model Codes: SSDSA1M080G2XX, SSDSA2M080G2XX, SSDSA1M160G2XX, SSDSA2M160G2XX Product Codes: SSDSA2MH080G2XX, SSDSA1MH080G2XX, SSDSA2MH160G2XX, SSDSA1MH160G2XX
 Available in 1.8” and 2.5” Form Factors  Capacity: 80 GB and 160 GB
 Uses Intel NAND flash memory Multi-Level Cell (MLC) components
 Read and Write IOPS Specifications (Iometer* Queue Depth 32)
— Random 4 KB Reads: Up to 35 K IOPS
— Random 4 KB Writes: 80GB - Upto6.6KIOPS
160GB - Upto8.6KIOPS
 Bandwidth Performance Specifications
— Sustained Sequential Read: Up to 250 MB/s
— Sustained Sequential Write: — 80GB - Upto70MB/s
-160GB-Upto100MB/s
 Latency Specifications:
— Read: 65 μs
— Write: 85 μs  Compatibility
— Intel® SSD ToolBox Intel® SSD Optimizer
— Intel® Matrix Storage Manager — SATA Revision 2.6 compliant, compatible with SATA 1.5 Gb/s and 3 Gb/s interface
rates
— ATA/ATAPI-7 Compliant
— SSD Enhanced S.M.A.R.T. ATA feature set
— Native Command Queuing (NCQ) command set
 Certifications and Declarations — UL*
— CE* — C-Tick* — BSMI* — KCC* — Microsoft* WHQL — VCCI* — SATA-
 
BillB50 said:
From Intel's performance PDF:
Intel® X18-M/X25-M SATA Solid State Drive -
34 nm Product Line
Model Codes: SSDSA1M080G2XX, SSDSA2M080G2XX, SSDSA1M160G2XX, SSDSA2M160G2XX Product Codes: SSDSA2MH080G2XX, SSDSA1MH080G2XX, SSDSA2MH160G2XX, SSDSA1MH160G2XX
 Available in 1.8” and 2.5” Form Factors  Capacity: 80 GB and 160 GB
 Uses Intel NAND flash memory Multi-Level Cell (MLC) components
 Read and Write IOPS Specifications (Iometer* Queue Depth 32)
— Random 4 KB Reads: Up to 35 K IOPS
— Random 4 KB Writes: 80GB - Upto6.6KIOPS
160GB - Upto8.6KIOPS
 Bandwidth Performance Specifications
— Sustained Sequential Read: Up to 250 MB/s
— Sustained Sequential Write: — 80GB - Upto70MB/s
-160GB-Upto100MB/s
 Latency Specifications:
— Read: 65 μs
— Write: 85 μs  Compatibility
— Intel® SSD ToolBox Intel® SSD Optimizer
— Intel® Matrix Storage Manager — SATA Revision 2.6 compliant, compatible with SATA 1.5 Gb/s and 3 Gb/s interface
rates
— ATA/ATAPI-7 Compliant
— SSD Enhanced S.M.A.R.T. ATA feature set
— Native Command Queuing (NCQ) command set
 Certifications and Declarations — UL*
— CE* — C-Tick* — BSMI* — KCC* — Microsoft* WHQL — VCCI* — SATA-
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hmm ok thanks...
 
ildondeigiocchi said:
Highly unlikely. That must be your read speed. No 80GB versions have been able to get 100MB/s write. That's only possible with a 160Gb version ;)
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no read i have 265 kb/s write 83 kb/s but im thinking (earlier) after upgrade it's is a 100 kb/s.

I have 4 this ssd drive and im stripe iin the raid...
 
ramirezzz said:
no read i have 265 kb/s write 83 kb/s but im thinking (earlier) after upgrade it's is a 100 kb/s.

I have 4 this ssd drive and im stripe iin the raid...
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Wait a sec... Are you saying that you have of these SSDs in Raid 0? :eek: If that's the case then it's very plausible that you get 100MB/S write... for 4 SSDs that's even little:cool:
 
ildondeigiocchi said:
Wait a sec... Are you saying that you have of these SSDs in Raid 0? :eek: If that's the case then it's very plausible that you get 100MB/S write... for 4 SSDs that's even little:cool:
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hehe i now that ;)
now im done the test with aja system and 4 ssd in soft raid 0 give me
WRITE: 312 MB/s
READ: 586.2 MB/s
butt im thinking all the time this g2 80gb has a 100 mb/s write ...
 
ramirezzz said:
hehe i now that ;)
now im done the test with aja system and 4 ssd in soft raid 0 give me
WRITE: 312 MB/s
READ: 586.2 MB/s
butt im thinking all the time this g2 80gb has a 100 mb/s write ...
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Your write speeds are what's expected for 4x 80GB G2 Intels in a stripe set (78MB/s * 4). The read however, are not (works out to 146.55 MB/s per drive). Granted, the ICH will throttle before you see what the drives are capable of (i.e. ICH9 & 10 families hit ~660MB/s max), so something's off IMO.

What exact system are you using?
(interested in the ICH model)
 
nanofrog said:
Your write speeds are what's expected for 4x 80GB G2 Intels in a stripe set (78MB/s * 4). The read however, are not (works out to 146.55 MB/s per drive). Granted, the ICH will throttle before you see what the drives are capable of (i.e. ICH9 & 10 families hit ~660MB/s max), so something's off IMO.

What exact system are you using?
(interested in the ICH model)
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OSX 10.6 - it's any matters about 10.5 ?
 
nanofrog said:
Your write speeds are what's expected for 4x 80GB G2 Intels in a stripe set (78MB/s * 4). The read however, are not (works out to 146.55 MB/s per drive). Granted, the ICH will throttle before you see what the drives are capable of (i.e. ICH9 & 10 families hit ~660MB/s max), so something's off IMO.

What exact system are you using?
(interested in the ICH model)
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In my MAC PRO 3.1 are ICH9 ?
 
nanofrog said:
Your write speeds are what's expected for 4x 80GB G2 Intels in a stripe set (78MB/s * 4). The read however, are not (works out to 146.55 MB/s per drive). Granted, the ICH will throttle before you see what the drives are capable of (i.e. ICH9 & 10 families hit ~660MB/s max), so something's off IMO.

What exact system are you using?
(interested in the ICH model)
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My 3x80GB SSD's max out at about 620MB/s. It's odd that a 4 drive stripe is maxing out at 586MB/s but it could be the test or it could be the ICH is getting so over-saturated that it's bogging down or something?!

@ramirezzz, here's my AJA test... run the same test (1920x1080p 10-bit 1GB) and post your results.
 

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ramirezzz said:
how turn it on ?
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Assuming it didn't activate automatically when you installed (clean) the OS, then check under Disk Utility.

VirtualRain said:
My 3x80GB SSD's max out at about 620MB/s. It's odd that a 4 drive stripe is maxing out at 586MB/s but it could be the test or it could be the ICH is getting so over-saturated that it's bogging down or something?!

@ramirezzz, here's my AJA test... run the same test (1920x1080p 10-bit 1GB) and post your results.
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The 4x vs. 3x performance issue is really weird but as you've seen, it's real. 3x drives give an additional ~34MB/s faster. We know that OS X isn't optimized for SSD yet, and seems to be causing latency issues (saturates, throttles back, recovers,... in a cycle = "bogged down" as you describe).

We'd need a 4x port PCIe SATA card to test that one (3.0Gb/s spec, and the same OS version). RAID cards aren't optimized either, and some combinations work well together, while others don't. The SATA card test would eliminate the additional components (system does the work, as it would on the ICH).
 
nanofrog said:
Assuming it didn't activate automatically when you installed (clean) the OS, then check under Disk Utility.

how i can check this ? i don't see anything under DU to check this...
and how i can turn it on ? (im install clean system and nothing better)
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VirtualRain said:
My 3x80GB SSD's max out at about 620MB/s. It's odd that a 4 drive stripe is maxing out at 586MB/s but it could be the test or it could be the ICH is getting so over-saturated that it's bogging down or something?!

@ramirezzz, here's my AJA test... run the same test (1920x1080p 10-bit 1GB) and post your results.
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Yes it's very strange ! im getting now a 3 ssd in stripe and have a 710 mb/s !!!
and 4 was a 580 !!!
it's fuc... strange...
Now then im gonna sold my one ssd...
 
VirtualRain said:
Nice.... and you only get 580MB/s with 4?

If that's the case, then try a few more tests to make sure that it's not just this particular benchmark that likes or dislikes your configuration. Some AJA test turn out bizarre results with SSD's.
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Windows to run HD Tach might help here, but I'd try pulling one of the drives, and test out 3x SSD's as you did.

I think it will make an improvement as it did with your system. ;)
 
VirtualRain said:
Nice.... and you only get 580MB/s with 4?

If that's the case, then try a few more tests to make sure that it's not just this particular benchmark that likes or dislikes your configuration. Some AJA test turn out bizarre results with SSD's.
Click to expand...

i think this aja system it's not a good test for a speed, or maybee it's not a similar speed with some aplications (photoshop etc.)
 
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