Stainless for OS X | Leopard PowerPC

[rjcalifornia]

Anyone tried Stainless for Leopard? It is extremely fast! Like super fast for sites such as facebook or twitter.

Even a super heavy web design that we created, which loaded super slow in Aurorafox/Tenfourfoux, loaded extremely fast under Stainless

 

[Intell]

Doesn't Stainless use the extremely insecure native Leopard webkit?

 

[eyoungren]

Doesn't Stainless use the extremely insecure native Leopard webkit?

Stainless is webkit, yes. It's very fast, but other than being able to bookmark it's not really customizable.

 

[rjcalifornia]

Doesn't Stainless use the extremely insecure native Leopard webkit?

Really?

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Stainless is webkit, yes. It's very fast, but other than being able to bookmark it's not really customizable.

I know... The source is available, so anyone wants to join me and enhance it?

I can put it on GitHub

 

[Intell]

Stainless is webkit, yes. It's very fast, but other than being able to bookmark it's not really customizable.

But what version of Webkit. The outdated built in Leopard one or the Leopard WebKit by Tobais.

Really?

Yep: http://tenfourfox.blogspot.com/2013/02/id-like-to-embed-you-in-worst-way-plus.html

For example, Stainless, iCab (4 and up), Roccat, Safari, etc., all are just shells on the system WebKit and thus become vulnerable to any flaw that affects it.

 

[eyoungren]

Yep

I don't think you are going to find very many browsers other than the new Leopard Webkit itself that are using it.

Stainless, Sunrise, older versions of Roccat, Radon, Shira, Demeter and Fluid predate Leopard Webkit so naturally they'd be using the older system versions.

Just depends I guess what your comfort level is. I don't use Aurorfox/TenFourFox because they are secure (or as secure as can be made). I use them because of their expandibility. If Opera 10 was still able to render sites properly, I'd be using that, depsite it's insecurity, as I much prefer Opera.

 

[MrPilot]

Doesn't Stainless use the extremely insecure native Leopard webkit?

Hey, do you know where to find out exactly how insecure and in what ways webkit for leopard is?
thanks!

 

[Intell]

Hey, do you know where to find out exactly how insecure and in what ways webkit for leopard is?
thanks!

Go through Apple's security releases. Start with the ones for Snow Leopard. Look for fixes for Webkit. Also read security notices on Webkit's site.

 

[MrPilot]

Go through Apple's security releases. Start with the ones for Snow Leopard. Look for fixes for Webkit. Also read security notices on Webkit's site.

Ok, will do. However webkit2 is being implemented as we speak into webkit for leopard.

 

[Intell]

But it isn't going to replace Leopard's native Webkit, which Stainless and almost everything else uses.

 

[ihuman:D]

But you can use one of the scripts that comes with the download to set it as the systems default.

 

[Intell]

But you can use one of the scripts that comes with the download to set it as the systems default.

Then it breaks some of Leopard's things, most importantly Installer.

 

[B-G]

It will work fine if you install the stable release. At the moment it is 536.28.8.
Install is unstable only in series 537, which can still be used as a stand-alone
application.

As for Stainless, out of the box it uses the default and outdated Webkit framework that came with Safari 5.0.6.
But if you read the comments from the Cameron Kaiser's post linked above you will find this:

[...]There is one thing about Stainless that I never see mentioned, though. It is very easy to use it in conjunction with Leopard Webkit. You only need to select "Load frameworks from Webkit nightly build" in its preferences, and you'll be able to use the updated frameworks from LW.[...]

So as long as the Leopard Webkit stand-alone application is present on your system, even if it has _not_ been installed as system default using the shell script, you'll be able to use the updated framework in Stainless.

 

[B-G]

By the way, you can do something similar with most Webkit based applications, if you use the right Terminal commands. I attached three Automator actions that can be used to launch iCab, PlainView and Roccat with the updated L-W framework, _without_ installing L-W as system default first.
I'm assuming that the browser you want to use and the L-W application are both in your Applications folder (this can be easily changed by opening the launchers in Automator).

 

[rjcalifornia]

It will work fine if you install the stable release. At the moment this is 536.28.8.
Install is unstable only in series 537, which can still be used as a stand-alone
application.

As for Stainless, out of the box it uses the default and outdated Webkit framework that came with Safari 5.0.6.
But if you read the comments from the Cameron Kaiser's post linked above you will find this:



So as long as the Leopard Webkit stand-alone application is present on your system, even if it has _not_ been installed as system default using the shell script, you'll be able to use the updated framework in Stainless.

Cool, how do I do that?

 

[tevion5]

Anyone tried Stainless for Leopard? It is extremely fast! Like super fast for sites such as facebook or twitter.

Even a super heavy web design that we created, which loaded super slow in Aurorafox/Tenfourfoux, loaded extremely fast under Stainless

Second! I found it the fastest by far of all PowerPC browsers. It's essentially a wrapped Chrome if I'm not mistaken?
It might not be the most secure, but I don't keep my CIA mission files on my G5

 

[rjcalifornia]

Second! I found it the fastest by far of all PowerPC browsers. It's essentially a wrapped Chrome if I'm not mistaken?
It might not be the most secure, but I don't keep my CIA mission files on my G5

hahahaha you shouldn't post that. Remember there's a man behind that curtain watching everything we post on internet...



And if I were to keep such secrets, I would keep it on a PowerPC Mac, because the CIA has Intel Only spy apps lol

 

[B-G]

Cool, how do I do that?

Stainless preferences > Advanced > Load frameworks from Webkit nightly build

Now go here:
http://www.useragentstring.com/
Under "Web Kit build" you should see the same version number of the L-W release you have on your system. Another test is trying to go fullscreen when using html5 players. It should work perfectly now.

 

[eyoungren]

hahahaha you shouldn't post that. Remember there's a man behind that curtain watching everything we post on internet...



And if I were to keep such secrets, I would keep it on a PowerPC Mac, because the CIA has Intel Only spy apps lol

That's why we have the Tor Project!

 

[Nameci]

Hey, anybody care to pass me a free vpn here in China? Most of the sites that I want and need to go to are blocked.

 

[skinniezinho]

It will work fine if you install the stable release. At the moment it is 536.28.8.
Install is unstable only in series 537, which can still be used as a stand-alone
application.

As for Stainless, out of the box it uses the default and outdated Webkit framework that came with Safari 5.0.6.
But if you read the comments from the Cameron Kaiser's post linked above you will find this:



So as long as the Leopard Webkit stand-alone application is present on your system, even if it has _not_ been installed as system default using the shell script, you'll be able to use the updated framework in Stainless.

Thanks for this.
I installed Webkit 536 as system default, no problems at all.
Then download leopard webkit 537 and made stainless use, very very fast =)

anyway of importing bookmarks from tenfourfox?

 

[ihuman:D]

Second! I found it the fastest by far of all PowerPC browsers. It's essentially a wrapped Chrome if I'm not mistaken?
It might not be the most secure, but I don't keep my CIA mission files on my G5

Nope, most of Chrome's code is Intel only like the JavaScript engine.

 

[RedCroissant]

But you can use one of the scripts that comes with the download to set it as the systems default.

Don't do it. Just.......don't do it.

 

[skinniezinho]

Don't do it. Just.......don't do it.

Why? Done it with 536 and so far so good

 

[RedCroissant]

Why? Done it with 536 and so far so good

I did it with 537.10 and it screwed up my system. Dashboard, Safari, Mail, Dictionary, and iChat were all broken. even after running the uninstaller script, I couldn't fix it and had to reinstall the OS.