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It's still weird that the like/dislike system is buried in the music player now. I miss the days where it was accessible in control center as well as the lock screen. The new version is a step backwards imo.
Is there a dislike option in iOS 10's Apple Music? I'm on 9 and only have the option to like. Telling Apple Music I genuinely don't like a song or artist would be great.
 
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iOS is slowly becoming a house full of switches. Not sure if that's good thing or a bad thing...

Oh it's definitely a bad thing. ios has felt messy since ios 7 was released to the point where I definitely find Android or more efficient operating system to navigate and action (Notifications especially). It now feels slapped together. How many time do I accidentally bring up the camera to action a lock screen notification and once I action it on the lock screen why doesn't it disappear from the notification pull down?

So sloppy and inefficient.
[doublepost=1478014906][/doublepost]Now bring back the quick add and love options on the lock screen and pull up widgets please and let me share song links with more third party apps again like whatsapp. Why take away these options to begin with?

Bad Apple!
 
Music rating is the only reason I use iTunes for Mac. Glad to know its back on iOS.
BTW, I don't know why people hate on the like/dislike function. It works well in conjunction with the rating feature. I might have some songs I disliked, but I would still give it a 4/5 star because I appreciate what the artist have created.
Music management is so personal, and it involves many metrics. Having another metric does make it complicated, but at least you have options.
 
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Even if you hide Apple Music, the app is so packed full of crap that it's almost unusable on the iPhone. WHy do I have to select "Downladed Music" every time I want to switch between albums and playlists when Apple Music is disabled? Why is the bottom dock so limited when it used to have 5/6 items in iOS 6 and 7!?

"Downloaded" was the wrong word anyway. Why inject such a computery word into our musical enjoyment? It's also less descriptive than "On this iPhone" would have been.
 
Apple Music in iOS 10 is just a mess (I am using iOS 10.2 beta 1):

1. Star ratings aren't showing for me in settings.

2. If I search for an artist and look at their songs, I can't press forward to the next song nor does it play the next song automatically. I have to manually choose the next song. If I choose an album, I can skip to the next song. This wasn't an issue in iOS 9's version.

3. Not sure if this is a Mazda (2016 Mazda6 - latest infotainment software) infotainment issue or not, but each song I choose puts the system into the repeat option. I have to manually turn it off for each new album or song I choose. iOS 9 didn't do this.

4. If I go into an album I have on my phone, the same song is duplicated in the list with the cloud option.

Such annoyances.
 
Who said they changed course? When software is re-designed, often times things are pulled out with the intention of them being put back in later. They are not a development priority, so they are not designed, coded, or implemented. The Music App was entirely redesigned.

The Star Ratings was a low priority which was put off to 10.2. It's also possible that if there wasn't enough demand to bring them back, it would have been axed instead, but that's not what ultimately happened.

I don't expect most forum members to understand this because most of them have never designed software or worked for a software company. They will make up their own anti-Apple nonsense as they always do.
Making it sound like you understand how software is designed isn't much better.

Suggesting that the star rating system was something that was always intended to be there but didn't make the cut for the initial redesign is nothing more than a flight of fancy. There is no indication that was the case.

If development resources and timeframe were so tight as to not include a star rating system but develop another rating system as a stop-gap, then that was very short-sighted and a waste of time.

And we're not talking about some ground-breaking feature. The star rating system has been around from the beginning. The issues related to such a system are well known.

Based on what happened, Apple tried the heart/no-heart rating system, received feedback, and changed direction.
 
Yes! This was keeping me on 9.3.5 & had me actively researching Android phones to switch to, but it looks like I will be an iPhone user for a bit longer :)

I did send them my feedback that the love / dislike rating system was inadequate for managing my 20,000 track library, hopefully others did too and this reflects them actually listening :eek:
Android phones that would integrate with your antique iTunes Star ratings? LOL.
Making it sound like you understand how software is designed isn't much better.

Suggesting that the star rating system was something that was always intended to be there but didn't make the cut for the initial redesign is nothing more than a flight of fancy. There is no indication that was the case.

If development resources and timeframe were so tight as to not include a star rating system but develop another rating system as a stop-gap, then that was very short-sighted and a waste of time.

And we're not talking about some ground-breaking feature. The star rating system has been around from the beginning. The issues related to such a system are well known.

Based on what happened, Apple tried the heart/no-heart rating system, received feedback, and changed direction.
You have absolutely no idea how development works. All you know how to do is post uninformed nonsense on a forum.

Doesn't matter how long the feature has been around. In a re-design, both visual and functional (aka new code), features and coding are prioritized...when this became one of the lowest priorities, it didn't make the cutoff for the initial release.

Sorry, I don't subscribe to usual uniformed banter that takes place, where the crazies invent their own explanations for things, about which they know positively nothing, and then proceed to pass that as reality.

The result is a bunch of people who live entirely in their own self-created reality, which is anything but.
 
I wish Apple would stop making it so hard to carry out simple tasks.

I used to be able to tap on the stars and that was it: rated. Now, it takes multiple steps? What the hell, Apple? How can this possibly be an improvement? I just don't understand why Apple is making so many things so complicated, I really don't. It baffles, saddens and depresses me. What has happened to the prime selling point of Apple: ease of use?

It's almost as though Apple is wilfully trying to spite its customers. I know that's silly, but that's what it feels like.

Colour me gloomy and getting gloomier. :(
 
I'm so glad they listened to user feedback and added them back. I'm not even exaggerating when I say that this is the best Apple news I've read in years. Can't wait for the public beta so I can use them again.

Looks like the public for 10.2 just came out:)
 
Apple Music should "learn what you like" based on listening habits and stars, not a separate rating system. It's so convoluted right now. All of us have been rating our music in iTunes for 15 years, yet the Apple Music designers come in and decide it's unimportant? They need to see how actual customers interact with music instead of dictating new behavior.
 
I used to be able to tap on the stars and that was it: rated. Now, it takes multiple steps? What the hell, Apple? How can this possibly be an improvement? I just don't understand why Apple is making so many things so complicated, I really don't. It baffles, saddens and depresses me. What has happened to the prime selling point of Apple: ease of use?

Apparently, iTunes has always been a separate project at Apple, developed by a different team. They never followed the Human Interface Guidelines or Aqua design principles to the letter and they still do not. Remember the ‘marble’ scrollbar handles or the vertical window buttons? I suspect with Apple’s and particularly Cue’s obvious infatuation with the Beats team, that they have pretty much taken over that department now and are influencing Apple from the inside in other areas, which you can see in the new Maps and News apps as well. When you compare Apple Music to the old Beats app, you can easily make that conclusion. All these redesigns seem to fall under the responsibility of Cue and Alan Dye (the UI chief), both of which have been at the helm during the worst software designs at Apple in recent years. I think the problem is at the top, there is no one there that invokes the kind of confidence about this that Jobs, Greg Christie and Scott Forstall did.
 
"Downloaded" was the wrong word anyway. Why inject such a computery word into our musical enjoyment? It's also less descriptive than "On this iPhone" would have been.
I believe it used to be that way. I just don't get why it's even there if you disable Apple Music. The only music you could have is Apple Music.

I just don't understand how you mess up a music app this bad. I'm a default app person. For me to switch to a 3rd party app means the default had to be completely horrid. I could live with iOS 9, iOS 10 just ruined it.
 
It works for me! So glad this is back as using Siri to rate songs just sucked (especially if in public). In addition, I could never confirm what rating I already had on a song (for example, if I wanted to upgrade or downgrade it from what I originally rated it).
 
Has anyone tried the beta with CarPlay? I'm wondering if they added the ability to rate with stars through CarPlay when they added it back to the iOS Music app?
 
I'm very glad song ratings are back but think it's poorly done. It's too much of a hassle just to view if a song is rated, let alone what that rating might be.

If I'm driving, or at the gym, I don't want to have to click a few times to rate a song or simply view its rating.

I'd love it if the UI more more dynamic and we could turn on meta data so we could see it on the Now Playing screen. Rating, Year Released, etc.

I didn't know about this option till today but there is a widget in the App Store that brings ratings to the widget screen, Music Rating Widget.
 
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Rdio and even Spotify seemed better than Apple Music at learning what type of music I like. I think it's heavily influenced by my iTunes Library. But here's the problem: I don't have a very big iTunes library, and it's mainly songs from when I was a kid and I don't care much for many of them. I've been using various streaming services for many years and I wish I could just import all of that into Apple Music somehow. Pandora, Spotify, Rdio, then Rdio shut down during the Apple Music Trial.

I have the exact opposite experience. Apple Music's "Favorites" auto-generated playlist routinely surprises me with great songs I really do love, and the "New Music" playlist is fabulous for finding new music out each week. Much better luck than I ever had on Pandora or Spotify (although honestly I never put the time into the latter).

I have tens of thousands of songs in my library, which I had cultivated with 100% rating, smart playlists, etc. Really miss not being able to differentiate between a song I didn't really like, one that was okay, one that was the highlight of its album, and one that was an all-time classic. Dislike / No Opinion / Love just isn't enough. So, glad to see that coming back. Don't see the logic in those ratings not being used by Apple Music, but, as I said, Apple Music seems to be doing pretty damned well with the data it has already.
 
I'm very glad song ratings are back but think it's poorly done. It's too much of a hassle just to view if a song is rated, let alone what that rating might be.

If I'm driving, or at the gym, I don't want to have to click a few times to rate a song or simply view its rating.

I'd love it if the UI more more dynamic and we could turn on meta data so we could see it on the Now Playing screen. Rating, Year Released, etc.

I didn't know about this option till today but there is a widget in the App Store that brings ratings to the widget screen, Music Rating Widget.
nice widget, thx for the link. but it says in the description that it only works if you sync your itunes library manually. That's a no-go for me. wish there was a similar one that works with the icloud music library.
 
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