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I don't think it's their official reply to this request, but I did overhear a server once tell a gentleman that regular coffee people such as himself "who don't enjoy the third place atmosphere and value the importance of sharing an experience with other members of their community are more than free to buy one of their coffee brewers and pick up some Starbucks coffee from their local grocer."

'third place' ? Whiskey Tango Foxtrot.

/Wanders off to google
//Remembers on of the reasons he hates people
/Wanders back

I guess they are saying if you don't appreciate the cult at least send us money from afar, so buy our hideously over priced paraphernalia and go back to your trailer park or ghetto and make room for more of the beautiful people.
 
I don't like coffee and their hot chocolate is tasteless. Pity one is two minutes away from me. :/
I've never heard of that training ritual. It sounds almost cruel.
 
So Im sitting here at Starbucks having a drink and surfing the net when two people sit down at the table right next to me. Im not really paying attention to them too much but notice they are doing some sort of interview or something. Then, one person pulls out 4 dice and rolls them on the table. They say things like "double" and "decaf" and whatnot. Then the second person has to tell the first one how to make that specific drink. She hasnt been doing too well. Out of 4 rolls she hasnt gotten one right yet and the dice roller isnt being too understanding. I didnt know Starbucks was so hardcore with their training. Anyone here work at Starbucks or ever have similar training?

I worked at Starbucks from 2002-2004. I'm familiar with the die, although I can't say they got much use. Practices may have changed since then. The only difficult part of the job is memorizing drink recipes. Working full time it should only take a few weeks for a normal person to memorize them all.
 
The girl had that huge binder with her, too. Anyone else ever seen the dice thing though?

I saw it on some Food Network special once...looked slightly intimidating if you're not quick on your feet :)

Spending about 40 weeks a year living in hotels and the vile crap that passes for coffee in them, I seriously jones for Starbucks for a plain, strong coffee. Verona works wonders for my attitude. But, what I hate is waiting in line after a half-dozen folks ordering "mocha half-caf double-shot vanilla with a strawberry spurt and a no-fat whip" or some such nonsense, then I finally get up there and order just a medium coffee (emphasis on the medium. They can take the tall/grande/venti idiocy and pack it). You can hear a pin drop. It's like I stepped on a kitten or dropped a turd right there.

They need separate lines for coffee and foo-foo.

QFT. The looks I get when I order just a straight-up grande coffee are remarkable. You want the fastest, cheapest way in and out of *$? Order a tall coffee. In and out in less than a minute (depending on the line).

Isn't Starbucks one of the few of these outfits that offers a decent health plan?

I've always heard they have a pretty decent health care plan, even for people who don't work full-time. I think you need to work a 20hr week to get benefits? Is that true?
 
Isn't Starbucks one of the few of these outfits that offers a decent health plan?

Yep. Even part timers get benefits. You must work 20 hrs/week and qualify after 90 days. I love the 2 lbs of free coffee the sister in law gets, because she doesn't drink coffee :)

starbucks is in like the top 10 best places to work for, last year.

29th

But, what I hate is waiting in line after a half-dozen folks ordering "mocha half-caf double-shot vanilla with a strawberry spurt and a no-fat whip" or some such nonsense,

This is why it is so important new hires know how to make drinks in their sleep. Lines will move quicker and people will be happy.
 
I worked at Starbucks from 2002-2004. I'm familiar with the die, although I can't say they got much use. Practices may have changed since then. The only difficult part of the job is memorizing drink recipes. Working full time it should only take a few weeks for a normal person to memorize them all. However, the job attracts many people who don't fall under the umbrella of "normal."

I've had horrible experience with their management. Unprofessional at best. I went through four store managers and two district managers in two years (none of which left voluntarily). One got canned for ebaying merchandise; a district manager got fired for trying to screw his way through the corporate ladder. The others were given no explanation. They ask you to make strong connections with the customer while burning bridges with their own baristas. Most of their concern for you is whether all edges of your tattoos are covered and you have the requisite minimum number of piercings.

I don't intend to speak for all baristas, but that's my experience.

I worked at Starbucks in 2005, and your par normal comment is fairly true, but there were some really great people to work with as well. My management, unlike yours, was very smart, strong and stable. It was a great place to work.

As far as perks-- 20 hours/week gets you health, vision and dental insurance (great policies as well). 1 lb. free coffee per week, and while your working basically all the free coffee drinks you want. After working for a year (I think) you start getting stock options -- even as a barista.

As far as the training, it's about the most extensive training I've ever seen for any coffee shop. The dice were just for that, random drinks and you have to mark cups or tell the recipe. That stuff all comes pretty easy after a few weeks. The harder part was all the info on all the different processes , for drying beans, roasting beans, making coffee etc...I knew way too many factoids back in the day.:eek:
 
I think it is funny that people would go into Starbucks and get mad that people in line ahead of them are ordering a crazy drink with a title 15 words long. That is like going to the grocery store and getting mad because the person in line in front of you has a cart full of groceries. :)
 
While we're on the starbucks subject here is the Starbucks chairman Howard Schultz internal memo to CEO Jim Donald.

From: Howard Schultz
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 10:39 AM Pacific Standard Time
To: Jim Donald
Cc: Anne Saunders; Dave Pace; Dorothy Kim; Gerry Lopez; Jim Alling; Ken Lombard; Martin Coles; Michael Casey; Michelle Gass; Paula Boggs; Sandra Taylor

Subject: The Commoditization of the Starbucks Experience

As you prepare for the FY 08 strategic planning process, I want to share some of my thoughts with you.

Over the past ten years, in order to achieve the growth, development, and scale necessary to go from less than 1,000 stores to 13,000 stores and beyond, we have had to make a series of decisions that, in retrospect, have lead to the watering down of the Starbucks experience, and, what some might call the commoditization of our brand.

Many of these decisions were probably right at the time, and on their own merit would not have created the dilution of the experience; ... For example, when we went to automatic espresso machines, we solved a major problem in terms of speed of service and efficiency. At the same time, we overlooked the fact that we would remove much of the romance and theatre... This specific decision became even more damaging when the height of the machines... blocked the visual sight line the customer previously had to watch the drink being made, and for the intimate experience with the barista.

We achieved fresh roasted bagged coffee, but at what cost? The loss of aroma -- perhaps the most powerful non-verbal signal we had in our stores; the loss of our people scooping fresh coffee from the bins and grinding it fresh in front of the customer, and once again stripping the store of tradition and our heritage? Then we moved to store design. Clearly we have had to streamline store design to gain efficiencies... However, one of the results has been stores that no longer have the soul of the past and reflect a chain of stores vs. the warm feeling of a neighborhood store. Some people even call our stores sterile, cookie cutter, no longer reflecting the passion our partners feel about our coffee... Some stores don't have coffee grinders, French presses from Bodum, or even coffee filters.

...realize it's time to get back to the core and make the changes necessary to evoke the heritage, the tradition, and the passion that we all have for the true Starbucks experience. While the current state of affairs for the most part is self induced, that has lead to competitors of all kinds...to position themselves in a way that creates awareness, trial and loyalty of people who previously have been Starbucks customers. This must be eradicated.

I have said for 20 years that our success is not an entitlement and now it's proving to be a reality. Let's be smarter about how we are spending our time, money and resources. Let's get back to the core. Push for innovation and do the things necessary to once again differentiate Starbucks from all others. We source and buy the highest quality coffee. We have built the most trusted brand in coffee in the world, and we have an enormous responsibility to both the people who have come before us and the 150,000 partners and their families who are relying on our stewardship.
 
They ask you to make strong connections with the customer while burning bridges with their own baristas.

I HATE THAT!!!!

It's a coffee shop for gawd's sake! A nice hello is just fine but trying to engage me as though I'm some rare species of human is disgusting. I can't tell you how many times I've wanted to slap the tall blonde at the Starbucks nearest me.

The coffee's good, they have a nice patio, the music isn't half bad, the chairs are comfortable but please stop that phony bs! I don't care if the barista is told to "engage the customer" If I'm frowning, that means the last thing I want is more bs from someone who really doesn't care.
 
I must be weird, as I don't really care for Starbucks' coffee. I prefer a light-ish roast from the Coffee Exchange.

:confused: You do realized Starbucks has light roasts right? Are you talking about the espresso roast? Because nobody roasts their espresso beans more than starbucks. But the light roasts -- all the latinamerican coffees -- are some of the lightest roasts out there. Starbucks really hits the extremes. Sorry to throw propaganda out there, it's just embedded in me now:eek:
 
for those of you that have worked there, how come starbucks doesn't have something like white chocolate dream (coffee bean)? :(
 
for those of you that have worked there, how come starbucks doesn't have something like white chocolate dream (coffee bean)? :(

To put things simple, Starbucks doesn't want to bastardize their coffee beans. They prefer the real taste of coffee blah blah blah... If you want flavored coffee at Starbucks just ask for some syrups mixed in with it (in this case perhaps a pump of almond and 1/2 pump of white chocolate). And if you want it at home, buy some syrups for your home blah blah blah blah blah.
 
My roommate has been working at Starbucks over a year now. Sometimes management and can be a bit unprofessional or should I say not fitted to be managers.

Otherwise other than the training (Which did involve the dice) she likes the job and had the opportunity to meet and network with so many people (works in NYC).

She also gets health benefits which is amazing for a part time job, not too mention food/drink discounts, 1 free bag of coffee a week, discounts at the Apple store, free iTunes and other goodies.
 
I think it is funny that people would go into Starbucks and get mad that people in line ahead of them are ordering a crazy drink with a title 15 words long. That is like going to the grocery store and getting mad because the person in line in front of you has a cart full of groceries. :)

Heh, that is funny.

I'm afraid I've only actually been inside a starbucks a few times, and on those occasions, I've ordered hot chocolate. It was winter, and here in Boston, it get get pretty cold come January. Their Hot chocolate really hits the spot.

As for coffee, I switched to decaf for health reasons some time ago, so I wouldn't even know what to order.
 
i usually get an extra-hot-extra-two-shots-venti-half-caff-skim-latte-extra-foam, but if it's busy ill just order a tall coffee and come back later. ;)
 
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