State of 3rd party keyboards on iOS

oodi

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So I tried fleksy on iOS 9.3 beta 4 (iPhone 6s plus). It was laggy as hell. Is it because of 3rd parties or is it Apple that should fix its support.

Is the situation any better iOS 9.2 or iPhone 6s?
 

Armen

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So I tried fleksy on iOS 9.3 beta 4 (iPhone 6s plus). It was laggy as hell. Is it because of 3rd parties or is it Apple that should fix its support.

Is the situation any better iOS 9.2 or iPhone 6s?
Swiftkey works just fine on 9.2.1 and 9.3 without screwing up. I even removed the regular keyboard so SwiftKey is the only keyboard on the list. It's auto correct is even better than Apple's native keyboard because it learns how you hit keys and adjusts for it.
 

ashindnile

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It's funny because I've used Fleksy since iOS 8.3.. I've found it works great. There is no lag whatsoever.. And with their latest update, the keyboard animates on open/close, so can you describe the problem?
iPad mini 2(And iPads have always been slower than iPhones)
 

oodi

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It's funny because I've used Fleksy since iOS 8.3.. I've found it works great. There is no lag whatsoever.. And with their latest update, the keyboard animates on open/close, so can you describe the problem?
iPad mini 2(And iPads have always been slower than iPhones)
Its opening closing animations stutters a lot. It has background image with some opacity. By the way its on ipgone 6s plus. Is yor device plus or smaller iphone?
 
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ashindnile

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Its opening closing animations stutters a lot. It has background image with some opacity. By the way its on ipgone 6s plus. Is yor device plus or smaller iphone?
When we discuss keyboard lag, it usually means when the letters you type don't instantly appear on the screen, or if it doesn't respond as expected. For some reason, third party keyboards have never animated properly on iOS(except iOS 9 beta 3 or 5).
Like I mentioned above, the device I'm talking about is iPad mini 2. But I also use an iPhone 6. It doesn't lag in either. But as you say, the open/close animations aren't perfect.
 

daleski75

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Tried a few 3rd party keyboards and as I have not been an iPhone user for a few years maybe someone more knowledgeable could answer this for me?

Why does it alternate between the 3rd party and stock keyboard depending on if you are entering text or passwords? I have given the 3rd party keyboard full access so expected it to be the default keyboard for all apps.

Running a iPhone 6S Plus with iOS 9.3 Beta 4
 

lagwagon

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Tried a few 3rd party keyboards and as I have not been an iPhone user for a few years maybe someone more knowledgeable could answer this for me?

Why does it alternate between the 3rd party and stock keyboard depending on if you are entering text or passwords? I have given the 3rd party keyboard full access so expected it to be the default keyboard for all apps.

Running a iPhone 6S Plus with iOS 9.3 Beta 4
I believe that's somewhat a security thing. Apple wants passwords to be entered by their keyboard and not something 3rd party.
 

oodi

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So upgraded to 9.3 beta 5 today have been using the device for more than an hour. I can clearly state that fleksy performance is much better on beta 5. Animations are much smoother. I hope final 9.3 release will be only better than this.
 
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phillytim

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Swiftkey has become downright pathetic. It was great when it was first released, and the perfect fit if you have a non-Plus iPhone.

But the Plus-sized phone feels a bit too big for quick swiping; and, the developer has left we iOS folks out in the cold without a thumb-oriented keyboard like the Android folks have, and we are left out in the cold without any of the many enhancements/updates that Android users get.

Swiftkey has become dead to me.
 

gaanee

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Microsoft bought swiftkey.. so now its upto Microsoft. Neither Swype, fleksy offer thumb-oriented design.
Which other well known keyboards offer thumb-oriented design?
Swiftkey has become downright pathetic. It was great when it was first released, and the perfect fit if you have a non-Plus iPhone.

But the Plus-sized phone feels a bit too big for quick swiping; and, the developer has left we iOS folks out in the cold without a thumb-oriented keyboard like the Android folks have, and we are left out in the cold without any of the many enhancements/updates that Android users get.

Swiftkey has become dead to me.
 

nordique

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I don't mind swiftkey. Works well for me. I like how it combines both English and French (or any other language) in one keyboard, whereas with the stock apple keyboard I need to add two separate keyboards and it can be annoying switching between the two at times

Swift key also seems to have better word detection. Plus, swiping to type is a very neat feature. I think swift key works better than swype In that regard.

I like the stock keyboard for simplicity though.

Haven't tried too many other third party keyboards though.
 

oodi

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The last update of fleksy made it even faster. So i guess it is not just Apple's fault. Keyboard developers too have to optimize the code.
 

Jessica Lares

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You're actually supposed to hold the phone with one hand and swipe the keyboard with the other. It's an alternative to pecking.

For those that are using the latest iOS beta... Has your keyboard disappeared at one point yet? I know that they were able to finally file a report to Apple recently with the steps needed to reproduce the problem.
 

HoustonSpurs

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Swiftkey still doesn't pop up sometimes on mine. This has been an issue for me since they allowed 3rd Party Keyboards. I find it incredible that after all this time they cannot fix that coding.
 

ashindnile

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Swiftkey still doesn't pop up sometimes on mine. This has been an issue for me since they allowed 3rd Party Keyboards. I find it incredible that after all this time they cannot fix that coding.
I think that's one of those RAM roadblocks. And apple won't admit that has anything to do with it. My friend's mini 1 has very frequent issues with third party keyboards reverting to stock. My mini 2 and iPhone 6 face the issue too, albeit not as frequently, but sometimes the keyboard completely disappears from the list and only a reboot fixes it.
So primarily it's apple's fault- but is it a software problem or hardware decision problem?

For the record, I haven't heard any 6s users complain.
 
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Sirious

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Been using a number of different keyboards since iOS 8 launched, but been using SwiftKey since the day it debuted. Its been working pretty good. Takes a second or so for it to appear, but overall very happy with it.

Can't live with the stock keyboard anymore :p
 

numberfour

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I'm quite happy with swiftkey. Use it mainly because I can type norwegian and English without switching keyboards which is a life saver as I'm switching all the time. It is annoying when it doesn't pop up though. Hoping for continuous improvement from Apple and developers side
 

Michael Goff

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Can somebody explain the popularity of SwiftKey to me? Can't seem to ever type right, keep hitting the wrong letters. Or is it just good for swiping?
 

nooaah

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Swiftkey works just fine on 9.2.1 and 9.3 without screwing up. I even removed the regular keyboard so SwiftKey is the only keyboard on the list. It's auto correct is even better than Apple's native keyboard because it learns how you hit keys and adjusts for it.
Still occasionally suppressed for me in Messages. Or the default keyboard will pop up first even though I have my keyboard ordered to SK - Emoticons - Default.
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I think that's one of those RAM roadblocks. And apple won't admit that has anything to do with it. My friend's mini 1 has very frequent issues with third party keyboards reverting to stock. My mini 2 and iPhone 6 face the issue too, albeit not as frequently, but sometimes the keyboard completely disappears from the list and only a reboot fixes it.
So primarily it's apple's fault- but is it a software problem or hardware decision problem?

For the record, I haven't heard any 6s users complain.
Here's your first complaint. 6s Plus.
 
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