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State Of The Art 2003

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Couldn't resist snapping up this magazine from 2003 off ebay - I had it at the time and it planted the seed of wanting a Powerbook - which I got later in that year, the 1Ghz 12" model.
Also, note the Derrick May article proudly showing off his TiBook 667Mhz :)

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Imixmuan

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More delicious '03 goodness...


There's nothing like it, certainly not today. :)

Who the hell is this Omar character? I had that thought in 2003 when I first saw this, but never pursued it. Well, here is the answer. Apparently he introduced Oprah to the concept of email around 2000. Kinda late....

https://alchetron.com/Omar-Wasow

Cut to the chase, he's a professor at Princeton in 2019.
 
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z970mp

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Panther was a great OS. I used it for a little bit years ago. Tiger is better but panther isn't that far behind it IMO.
If I remember correctly it's the first version of Mac OS X that all the "old" mac users actually liked after OS 9.

It is still surprisingly usable with Opera 10.10, even on a G3. Especially with JavaScript turned off and the system fonts slimmed down.

Sent from above configuration (far more smoothly than you'd expect). ;)
 
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It is still surprisingly usable with Opera 10.10, even on a G3. Especially with JavaScript turned off and the system fonts slimmed down.

Sent from above configuration (far more smoothly than you'd expect). ;)
How does it compare to TFF on Tiger on the same machine?
 
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z970mp

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How does it compare to TFF on Tiger on the same machine?

TFF is (obviously) more "compatible" with a greater number of websites, but Opera on Panther is definitely much faster, and so far, I haven't found any real issues with actually visiting and accessing websites, even with Java off, JavaScript off, and plug-ins disabled.

The only downside is that I don't think you can change the user agent to something newer and more lightweight.

Otherwise, it bolsters my point that although the experience won't be (Western Digital :D) Caviar, you really could get by with a B&W, especially if you tried.

Now what sucks is that for the life of me, I cannot get a Linux CD, not even Debian 6, to boot on this thing. No TD mode, no USB booting, even CD booting can be hit or miss. So that's put a heavy dent on my hopes to get this sucker running as a secure file / media server.

...Therefore, Panther will have to do...
 
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The only downside is that I don't think you can change the user agent to something newer and more lightweight.

I've not checked myself, but can you modify the UA via opera:config (type in address bar)?
 
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TFF is (obviously) more "compatible" with a greater number of websites, but Opera on Panther is definitely much faster, and so far, I haven't found any real issues with actually visiting and accessing websites, even with Java off, JavaScript off, and plug-ins disabled.

The only downside is that I don't think you can change the user agent to something newer and more lightweight.

Otherwise, it bolsters my point that although the experience won't be (Western Digital :D) Caviar, you really could get by with a B&W, especially if you tried.

Now what sucks is that for the life of me, I cannot get a Linux CD, not even Debian 6, to boot on this thing. No TD mode, no USB booting, even CD booting can be hit or miss. So that's put a heavy dent on my hopes to get this sucker running as a secure file / media server.

...Therefore, Panther will have to do...
This is a B&W G3 you're trying to install linux on? I've not tried on a B&W but I've had mix luck with linux installation CDs. I installed ubuntu 16.04 on a 400MHz iMac G3 once (was not a pleasant experience) and the only installer I could get to boot was the net installer. Newer G4s I've had better luck.

My next question is if not linux, why panther? I'd use Tiger if the machine is actually used for anything other than novelty purposes. Upgrade the GPU from the lousy rage 128 and OS X becomes a much nicer experience too. I run Tiger, and Leopard on my B&W (550MHz G4) coupled with a Geforce FX 5200 PCI card I flashed. Leopard actually runs better than Tiger on it due to the fact that Tiger is ignoring all my attempts to enable QE/CI on the PCI bus; whereas Leopard did it all on its own (probably because it expects to just have an AGP or PCIe GPU installed).
 
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z970mp

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My next question is if not linux, why panther? I'd use Tiger if the machine is actually used for anything other than novelty purposes.

Well, if I'm forced to use OS X, I'd at least rather use a favored release.

Panther is faster than Tiger on stock config, file serving is confirmed working fine and showing up on the network, and I want to see how far I can push Panther for browsing purposes.

(And don't forget, it's delicious '03 goodness... :p)

I just repasted / replaced the Rage's heatsink with a larger one. I'll be using it for a while more now.
 
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