Allright, we have heard this now many times. Can you back that up and still be of that opinion once you have read the many arguments in this thread?
In addition... What "else" is coming?
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Steve Jobs Almost Entirely Focused on Tablet Project?
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Allright, we have heard this now many times. Can you back that up and still be of that opinion once you have read the many arguments in this thread?
In addition... What "else" is coming?
It's true that the current tablet offerings are too expensive and lack innovation, particularly on the software front. I'm personally hoping that Apple can introduce some innovation in the table or ultra-portable space. I love my iPhone, but I would love having something with a slightly larger screen too. On the other hand, I can't really imagine myself carrying around a tablet sized device.
There are certainly a lot of rumors circulating; Apple is definitely planning something exciting.
I believe the product that Jobs is focused on is not a telecomputephonoid at all, but a revolutionary transport device. So revolutionary, in fact, that entire cities-- perhaps even entire countries or planets-- will be redesigned around it. And, in contrast to previous super-revolutionary transport devices that should have effected massive geosociopolitical realignment, you will actually look cool utilizing it.
Exactly, he wont let it out the door under his watch unless its beyond what anyone could have thought of or believed
I still believe a tablet is a bad idea. Apple needs to focus on current products (Both hardware & software) I just seems Apple keeps dropping the ball on "Pro" level products and focuses too much time and junk consumer products.
Gawd, I hope not.
Our current web tablets seem more sophisticated than the PADDs. And LCARS? Impossible to read digits and pastels.
Using touch to control a starship that often lurches from side to side, causing people to grab the panels for dear life, is just dumb design.
Chest-pinned communicators? Oh yeah, nothing like a room full of people talking out loud while having to listen to everyone else.
Oh yeah, and if Star Trek had Apple/ATT style devices, you'd only be able to view remote videos over planetwide WiFi while in orbit... but not over 3G subspace comms while under warp drive. Those apps would be blocked.
Rush for a Change of Atmosphere
Usually when someone is supposed to be in a rush they are trying to complete the project by a particular date...
The emphasis appears to be on marketing... suggest product is ready.
Usually when someone is supposed to be in a rush they are trying to complete the project by a particular date...
The emphasis appears to be on marketing... suggest product is ready.
Snow Leopard + Touch Tablet =
Ok, I'm new to this. My first Mac was a 11e and now I have an orchard in my small post prod business.
My view on all of this is simple...follow the bread crumbs...
QUOTE:
"New core technologies in Snow Leopard unleash the power of today's advanced hardware technology and prepare Mac OS X for future innovation."
When someone dumps a loaf of bread at your door (my INBOX) with statements like that, you have to read between the lines.
So it's simple.
FACT: Snow Leopard is out in 2 days.
FACT: Snow Leopard is half the size of Leopard, one of the challenges facing anyone entering this space was always going to be how to build a small device with limited memory but a turbo-charged OS that delivers a compelling experience!
FACT: SJ is pushing this new PROJECT to the max which means it WILL be revolutionary.
FACT: An iTouch Tablet will launch for Xmas, otherwise APPLE stands to lose not only holiday revenue, but share price.
FACT: It will be everything you dreamed of and more...why?... because it will run every app you own and more.
It doesn't take anything more than common sense to work this out.
Laugh at me if I'm wrong... Big Up me if I'm right.
Chur to the Chur yous fullas!
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Ok, I'm new to this. My first Mac was a 11e and now I have an orchard in my small post prod business.
My view on all of this is simple...follow the bread crumbs...
QUOTE:
"New core technologies in Snow Leopard unleash the power of today's advanced hardware technology and prepare Mac OS X for future innovation."
When someone dumps a loaf of bread at your door (my INBOX) with statements like that, you have to read between the lines.
So it's simple.
FACT: Snow Leopard is out in 2 days.
FACT: Snow Leopard is half the size of Leopard, one of the challenges facing anyone entering this space was always going to be how to build a small device with limited memory but a turbo-charged OS that delivers a compelling experience!
FACT: SJ is pushing this new PROJECT to the max which means it WILL be revolutionary.
FACT: An iTouch Tablet will launch for Xmas, otherwise APPLE stands to lose not only holiday revenue, but share price.
FACT: It will be everything you dreamed of and more...why?... because it will run every app you own and more.
It doesn't take anything more than common sense to work this out.
Laugh at me if I'm wrong... Big Up me if I'm right.
Chur to the Chur yous fullas!
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I'll give you that one..
True
Rumors and deductions..
Rumor, and if apple will not introduce a tablet, it will lower the shareprice for a short time, but iPhone, iMac, laptop and iTunes sales will fix that.
Rumor
I'm not laughing at you, but you could use some explanation of the meaning of the word "fact"
But that date could be arbitrarily set just to "motivate" people...
Not really. That depends on exactly what part of 'marketing' is being worked on. Marketing starts well before a product is anywhere near completion. At least as early as the first prototypes, most likely even before that (how did we even know to build it?)
I just can't wait for the howling when everyone finds out it won't run OSX. The boards will be dripping with venom
Wrong. That's what you want. That's not what Apple "needs". As a publicly listed company, what it needs is to maximise profits. Apple have hit on a winning formula with the iPod, and whereever they see the potential, they will try to replicate it again.
Closed ecosystem that just works. Ever shinier and sexier 'must have' products.
I've been having some second (third, fourth, etc.) thoughts about what this new Tablet device might be like and cost. With the new rumor yesterday of a redesign of the MB and perhaps lowering of it's cost and also with the rumors that SJ is taking a personal hand in the design and details of the Tablet; I'm beginning to wonder if the new Tablet will be more of a mid to high end portable product rather than a lower price Touch/NetBook type device. Why would Apple redesign and lower the price of the MB if there is another product being designed that it would directly compete with? I think the MB redesign is in response to the Netbook craze and even though Apple won't call it a NetBook or even acknowledge that they are in the NetBook market, this will be Apple's NetBook. I've got a feeling that doing this redesign is a recent decision made in light of market conditions (and of course the Microsoft TV ads).
On the other hand I see the new Tablet as being a whole new ballgame that has been in development for several years. It will be sleek, will run full OS X and basically it will be a MBA but in Tablet form. I also predict a $1200+ price.
Just my latest (always changing) opinion.
On the other hand I see the new Tablet as being a whole new ballgame that has been in development for several years. It will be sleek, will run full OS X and basically it will be a MBA but in Tablet form. I also predict a $1200+ price.
Just my latest (always changing) opinion.
This is a stretch. Your argument seems to go that a good slice of the (majority) who have not switched to an iPhone for some reason, will be enticed into data contracts by a large tablet device? I think that set of people is fairly small.
For many, the reason would be cost. The tablet won't address that, 4G or 3G.
For others, it's the size or seeming complexity of the iPhone ("I just want a phone"). OK so they might be thinking "I just want a phone but I wouldn't mind being able to watch movies on the go if the screen is big enough, and I don't mind spending $700 + $50 a month to do it on top of my voice phone, which is thankfully quite cheap". Again, seems a stretch. There is no obvious connection there with those concepts.
Or did you mean something else?
Because the tablet will be on a data contract and subsidised like the iphone. It will be cheaper than the MB by a long way, even if the MB is reduced in price.
And secondly because, as deconstruct60 pointed out, the differentiation will be that it won't run OSX. Price is irrelevant with that distinction. Of course people will be willing to pay less for a non general computing device.
I agree with the last sentence but that does not require the earlier claim of it being essentially a netbook being true. Not that you're wrong, either of course.
Well I don't know how well the MBA sells. If poorly, then you could be right. Otherwise, no. But does anyone really, really, seriously, think that Apple could have "perfected" a touch screen only version of OSX? Won't your hands get tired moving that mouse pointer around? Is the pointer going to be just above your finger so you can see where it is? Can you really type properly for long periods on a virtual keyboard? Seems like a bag of hurt to me. Why not just re-use the touch OS already developed? All the intended uses (ie. netbook stuff) can be accomodated with the iPhone OS, just with a bigger screen. Maybe a little more computing grunt to allow developers to add real office apps with decent usability.
Why on earth do you need a pointer on a touch screen device?
There is no pointer on the iPhone if I remember correctly
Kind of destroys the idea of touch screen in my opinion. You wouldn't want to be dragging your finger around the screen the whole time trying to move a cursor. You just hit what you want, when you want.
Actually we don't know that at all. I just have a feeling this is going to be a high end device and with all of the head butting between Apple and AT&T over the iPhone, I don't see SJ getting into another agreement like that for the Tablet. Apple likes to control all aspects of it's products. The phone connection for the iPhone is a necessary evil in Apple's eyes. But I don't see them getting into another situation like that unless they absolutely have to. Think MBA with no keyboard or mouse. That's what I see it being and I also see it replacing the MBA in the product lineup. Time will tell though. I could be completely wrong.
stream TV from Apple TV?
I bet this thing will stream TV from an Apple TV unit. Has that already been discussed? I bet also that a few other gizmos could be made compatible with it... where you can control your home's thermostat with it... stream wirelessly to your home speakers and play music throughout the house... while you surf the net. Probably have video conferencing capabilities... turn lights on and off inside your house (there's an app for that! LOL!)... where it's not just a "digital" hub but your home's hub as well.
The possibilities are as endless as what the iPHone could do for its size... this could do even more.
They're probably going to give it capabilities none of us have thought of yet... they put out revolutionary products. Everybody else does evolutionary products... everyone else merely takes the next step. Apple thinks three steps ahead...
I bet this thing will stream TV from an Apple TV unit. Has that already been discussed? I bet also that a few other gizmos could be made compatible with it... where you can control your home's thermostat with it... stream wirelessly to your home speakers and play music throughout the house... while you surf the net. Probably have video conferencing capabilities... turn lights on and off inside your house (there's an app for that! LOL!)... where it's not just a "digital" hub but your home's hub as well.
The possibilities are as endless as what the iPHone could do for its size... this could do even more.
They're probably going to give it capabilities none of us have thought of yet... they put out revolutionary products. Everybody else does evolutionary products... everyone else merely takes the next step. Apple thinks three steps ahead...
Yep, a touch tablet.
I can see dozens of dozens of applications where this would be used where a laptop or desktop or even iPhone isn't suitable.
Doctors, nurses, walking around with it to input or check patient data on the go which ties to a central server or network. Retailers (stores, outdoor nurseries etc) checking inventory. Linesmen. Teachers. Journalists. Police. Heck, even waiters tapping in food and drink orders.
Mount it in a car and straight away you put all the current single-purpose in-car (video, GPS etc) systems on the back foot like the iPhone did with regular mobiles.
Basically, every single place where a computer can be held in one hand like a notepad while standing up and walking around. There is not a single fully-featured product currently filling that vast market right now. True mobile computing. Laptops just don't cut it for that role - laptops are 'mobile' but they are not mobile computing in the true sense, ie you have to sit down to use one or hold it awkwardly if standing up. Smart phones are just too small. Couriers use basic Newton-style devices to collect signatures etc, but it's no potential Apple iPad.
Thinking of it as just a larger iPhone/iPod game or video player or ebook reader is very limiting imagination in regards to the hundreds if not thousands of potential uses for it, where there is no current competition for it. But there will be once its released once everyone else realises and starts copying it, it'll be a whole new category of computing.