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'Steve Jobs' Becomes Amazon's Best-Selling Book of 2011

the8thark said:
Dead people can donate money?

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If the US fell, where I am from Australis would be just fine. The US is not part of our world economically speaking. For us it's more China plus other asia and who they trade with that affects us the most.

And another point. The credit ratings of European countries are taking a nose dive and they have billions in debt. But the US on the other hand have something like 15 Trillion in debt. And their credit rating went down one measly point. Something is not right there.


http://www.brillig.com/debt_clock/
$15,088,915,920,398.07 of US debt as of right now to be exact.
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Dream on. It's a global, interconnected economy. China buys resources and sells to the US and Europe. Europe sells to the US, and so on. The US is a huge driver of demand. You think you live on an island disconnected from the trouble, more like living in a dream.

The RBA reduced interest rates recently. Do you think that was because of China? LOL!

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arkitect said:
Please educate yourself about how the modern world works.

The US and the rest of the West is fast becoming irrelevant.

Look towards the East… and India.

There will be no return to glory for you. Less-regulated or otherwise.
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Yes, please educate yourself about how the world works. The US is the engine of the world economy and Europe, all together, is the largest market and economy. Just because they've had a bit of a stumble you write them off. You nominate India (which doesn't even have a proper road system or other key infrustructure) and the East, which I guess you mean China as saviours. They haven't got a hope since they are deeply corrupt and lack innovation, and because they rely on the West for growth.
 
Opinions

acidfast7 said:
I found that Biography quite good. A quick read actually as the text is quite large.

However, a movie would be totally crappy.

Guaranteed.

Also, George Clooney has really gone down the crapper since Syriana :(
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Opinions are like Aho1es everybody's got one.
 
acidfast7 said:
I found that Biography quite good. A quick read actually as the text is quite large.

However, a movie would be totally crappy.

Guaranteed.

Also, George Clooney has really gone down the crapper since Syriana :(
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Let's hope it's like the Social Network, now that was a good movie.
 
people are just using Steve name to earn big money.

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nutjob said:
Dream on. It's a global, interconnected economy. China buys resources and sells to the US and Europe. Europe sells to the US, and so on. The US is a huge driver of demand. You think you live on an island disconnected from the trouble, more like living in a dream.

The RBA reduced interest rates recently. Do you think that was because of China? LOL!

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Yes, please educate yourself about how the world works. The US is the engine of the world economy and Europe, all together, is the largest market and economy. Just because they've had a bit of a stumble you write them off. You nominate India (which doesn't even have a proper road system or other key infrustructure) and the East, which I guess you mean China as saviours. They haven't got a hope since they are deeply corrupt and lack innovation, and because they rely on the West for growth.
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You know nothing. 井底之蛙
 
sigma8 said:
It's a shame Isaacson is being so richly rewarded for a book that is getting poor reviews as having not really shown us anything we didn't already know about Steve.
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Probably because of sites like this one and others that leaked the entire book with each new story that was posted. With that being said I love this site and the book was a good read.
 
acidfast7 said:
I found that Biography quite good. A quick read actually as the text is quite large.

However, a movie would be totally crappy.
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I agree ... I enjoyed reading the book once but I was somewhat familiar with much of it. Thought the author did a good job of getting details in and also being honest in portraying some ugly old history.

A movie ... really?
 
Would be very interesting to see a movie like the social network but following steve and apple.
 
nutjob said:
Dream on. It's a global, interconnected economy. China buys resources and sells to the US and Europe. Europe sells to the US, and so on. The US is a huge driver of demand. You think you live on an island disconnected from the trouble, more like living in a dream.

The RBA reduced interest rates recently. Do you think that was because of China? LOL!
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It was because china and others have less trade from Europe now cause of their debt crisis. Thus meaning less asian demand for Australian raw materials. So in essence cause of Europe. Also cause the housing and retail sectors are down.

Yes the US affects us but not as much as we are led to believe. You need to study up a touch more on the facts. But hey I'm not gonna argue to you about it. You know the saying you can take a horde to the watery information source but if they don't want to drink up all that good knowledge, nothing anyone can do about it.

*****

Also you my other point about how in hell can the US try to bail out europe when they have the such an outrageous debt level themselves. It is insanity. But hey if it fixes things up I'm ok with it. I can't go to the bank and say hey I want to borrow even more money to pay off (or help deal with) my mates loan 10x (or more) less then mine. They would laugh me out of the bank. But this is exactly what the US is doing.

Maybe someone can explain how this all makes sense. Cause to me it just sounds crazy.
(Maybe the US are not borrowing to help europe. Maybe they are using their own money. I don't know. But shouldn't the world be saying pay off your own debts first?)
 
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i have found this book not well written. it is all about second coming, but mechanism of coming from a garage lab to a corporation is not described well. in fact, if i would not know the history of it before reading the book, i would be impossible to understand why apple became so popular so fast. all you get about apple rise from the book is steve being a smelly jerk with eating disorder. it is absolutely impossible to comprehend how these qualities helped him to build the most successful personal computers.

i am disappointed with the book, it is no biography of steve. i appreciate the cover though.

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arkitect said:
I agree.

For me it was definitely a below average book about an above average individual.
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Oh yes. Absolutely so. quite bellow average, I would say.
 
varera said:
i have found this book not well written. it is all about second coming, but mechanism of coming from a garage lab to a corporation is not described well. in fact, if i would not know the history of it before reading the book, i would be impossible to understand why apple became so popular so fast. all you get about apple rise from the book is steve being a smelly jerk with eating disorder. it is absolutely impossible to comprehend how these qualities helped him to build the most successful personal computers.

i am disappointed with the book, it is no biography of steve. i appreciate the cover though.

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Oh yes. Absolutely so. quite bellow average, I would say.
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You left out how much he liked to cry. And many times as a way to manipulate those around him.
 
I think it is a great read although I do agree with some of the criticisms said here.
I don't think of it as a biography, more like an extended interview where the author then interviews the people mentioned by Jobs.

But I grew up with this, I remember the Apple II, III, Lisa, and the Mac.

But I found it odd how he (author) glosses over his failures (I think he had more to do with the III and Lisa then he lets on).

And if you were not versed in the history, you would come away thinking Jobs invented everything.

The Amiga was so much more impressive then the Mac yet it isn't even mentioned.
The success of the Mac was as much a factor of Apple basically giving them away to colleges as the tech inside it.
Still a brilliant move.

It does confirm his colossal ****** status.

I do love the theme of how Jobs wanted to be viewed as a hippy yet needed a private plane, handicap parking, no license plate, specialized diet, huge stock options, etc.
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Meant to add:
I was shocked that there was no mention of the monumental task it was to get the cell phone companies to buy into the iPhone.
It was probably just as difficult as the music companies (which was explained in detail).
I think several carriers balked at what Jobs wanted and there were some last minute deals made/broken.
Wired had an excellent article about it a few years ago.
I would have loved to hear Job's insider views on all that and what he thinks of AT&T, etc.
I'm only at the iPad chapter but I doubt he goes back to cover that.
 
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I thought Steve was a cool guy before I read the book. Now I think he was a selfish weirdo, absolutely corny. His whole insistence on how important taking LSD was, his strange habits, his selfish personality, all the crying and whining. He was like a 13 year old girl who was good at manipulating and identifying trends. I wouldn't have wanted to hang out with him. He didn't even like fun.
 
eye said:
I thought Steve was a cool guy before I read the book. Now I think he was a selfish weirdo, absolutely corny. His whole insistence on how important taking LSD was, his strange habits, his selfish personality, all the crying and whining. He was like a 13 year old girl who was good at manipulating and identifying trends. I wouldn't have wanted to hang out with him. He didn't even like fun.
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Have you ever taken LSD? No? Than how would you know how important it was?
 
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