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'Steve Jobs' Debuts in Select Theaters as First Full Scene Debuts Online
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It's a movie, and movies have other qualities other than how "realistic" it is. What about the script, the cinematography, the acting, and so forth? That seems much more important than those superficial qualities.
Of course. None of it is true. Sorkin has already said this repeatedly. He wasn't out to write an accurate biography; he simply wanted to make good drama. It just so happens the main character is Steve Jobs. It's pretty obvious that there's no adherence to truth when Rogen says that the Mac interface was stolen from Xerox; Jobs had negotiated with Xerox and got the rights to modify their GUI. This movie bends the truth to service dramatic scenes. That's probably why Cook isn't a fan of it. Well-acted dramatic scenes can make lies appear to be truth.
Watched it without sound. The mannerisms of Jobs is so totally off of anything I've ever seen in any of his interviews or anywhere else.
Sure, but if you can't relate to any of the characters then what's the point?
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It's a fairly rocky situation.
If by realistic you mean Kutcher looked like Jobs, then yes.
If by realistic you mean decent acting and believable dialogue, then heck no. The film was an absolute cringe-fest, it was painful to watch.
Plus the $200K he reportedly received. I wonder if he negotiated a percentage of the gate as well.
Regardless, I'd much prefer an accurate account of history, rather than a fictionalized story dramatized to sell tickets.
I assume your """reasoning""" is simply based on "I find apple stupid so this is how it must be"?
Anyway, like you say, not a lot of movies get this kind of ratings, just about 60. In 2015. So far.
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/top/bestofrt/?year=2015
Why in the world would Apple pay for a movie to get high ratings when they had nothing to do with the production of the movie and have no ownership of it? In fact it was Jobs' wife that was trying to get the movie either banned or some of the actors to remove themselves from the movie.
Get ready for your Android friends to bombard you with, "Why did Steve/Woz/Apple do this/that?"
We didn't really get much of Fassbender in this scene, but I thought Rogen did a really great job as Woz. I'm looking forward to it! 
I'm going to see it eventually because I try to watch every film I can get my hands on. I'm sure it's a good film, good acting, writing, excellent quality.
As a film about a person that lived and made a profound impact on our world along with thousands of other Apple Employees deserves much more than a 90 minute 3-parter from Hollywood.
I've watched / read every major work about Steve's life but having followed Apple and loved Apple and the people that made it happen for the last 20 years, everyone has done the story a major disservice.
That's just how this goes though. No biographer can capture everything.
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I attended every Steve Jobs announcement / major appearance since 2003 until his passing in 2011 sometimes on my own dime and sometimes w/ a media badge. I feel so incredibly lucky to be there at MWSF 2007 for the iPhone announcement. Everyone was there. Old friends, family and his extended family of colleagues for which Steve spent his life with. After the announcement, I usually walk up and just snap photos of various Apple employees and hang out for a bit before departing Moscone West Hall and there's Steve with his wife and John Lasseter and a few others. He hugs his wife for close to a minute and asks, "How did I do?" Another older woman was there and he's asking her, "Are they going to buy this thing? Do you think they get it? I really hope I captured it"
A few people were crying, lots of hugs, it was this moment I never thought I'd see. Steve, one of my heroes growing up asking for validation from his closest family..their acceptance that this cellular phone that he and his friends spent 10 years developing was good enough for them.
No one has captured that realness. I'll keep waiting for that to show up in a book.
As a film about a person that lived and made a profound impact on our world along with thousands of other Apple Employees deserves much more than a 90 minute 3-parter from Hollywood.
I've watched / read every major work about Steve's life but having followed Apple and loved Apple and the people that made it happen for the last 20 years, everyone has done the story a major disservice.
That's just how this goes though. No biographer can capture everything.
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I attended every Steve Jobs announcement / major appearance since 2003 until his passing in 2011 sometimes on my own dime and sometimes w/ a media badge. I feel so incredibly lucky to be there at MWSF 2007 for the iPhone announcement. Everyone was there. Old friends, family and his extended family of colleagues for which Steve spent his life with. After the announcement, I usually walk up and just snap photos of various Apple employees and hang out for a bit before departing Moscone West Hall and there's Steve with his wife and John Lasseter and a few others. He hugs his wife for close to a minute and asks, "How did I do?" Another older woman was there and he's asking her, "Are they going to buy this thing? Do you think they get it? I really hope I captured it"
A few people were crying, lots of hugs, it was this moment I never thought I'd see. Steve, one of my heroes growing up asking for validation from his closest family..their acceptance that this cellular phone that he and his friends spent 10 years developing was good enough for them.
No one has captured that realness. I'll keep waiting for that to show up in a book.
I think my favorite part will be where Woz and Catherine Heigl get loaded at the club and she ends up preg.....oops. Wrong flick.
Nice Sublime quote by the way, assuming that sig came from Ruca.
Oy vey, there's nothing superficial about it. If a movie is going to be made about a high-profile person's life not only should the movie have good substance but the actors should be of great likeness in acting abilities as well as looks, otherwise it's difficult for viewers familiar with the character to relate and identify with the character in question. By your logic Michael Jordan might as well play Steve. Oh but you might say Steve wasn't black? Well that's being "superficial" right?
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In the clip, where Woz was talking about the money it was going to cost to tack on all the extra options for the computer, all I could think of was all the complaints lately about the total cost of the iPad Pro after adding the keyboard and stylus.
This scene does seem a little unrealistic, but it's hard to judge the whole movie based on 2 minutes.
I find it hard to compare anything to that Ashton Kutcher movie. It was horrible, and I still can't get his abominable acting and his horrible characterization of Steve's body language and speaking style out of my head.
Pirates of Silicon Valley was way, way better in my opinion.
In regards to this movie... I generally really like Sorkin's productions but it feels like this one is mean-spirited. I'll still see it, though.
The only way to accurately portray Steve Jobs is to show him as an egotistical d-bag. The guy was as much of a monster as he was a marketing genius.
This movie, I might actually watch as opposed to the others that glorified him to prop up the apple $brand$.
This movie, I might actually watch as opposed to the others that glorified him to prop up the apple $brand$.
Apple hates this movie. I doubt they pushed it one way or the other, but if they did, I would guess that they pushed it down, not up.
This one scene makes me less interested in seeing the movie. It has been demoted in my mind from something I'll see in theaters to something I'll see via Redbox or Netflix.
