Please do. AppleCare is excellent, especially if you know what you're doing. My friend is a complete genius when it comes to maneuvering AppleCare. He had a third-party eSata device for his MBP 17". It turns out it was, over time, shocking his computer, so that his computer ran slowly and not at all on the 9600m. He kept taking it into Apple, they thought it was the hard drive, so they replaced it (he also got to keep the old, perfectly good one for free, because he complained about 'sensitive data'). After two more times of this, they finally just gave him a whole new MBP, upgrading both the processor to 3.06 and the ram to 8GB (!) because of the hassle. That part seemed a little too evil to me, but the point is they will make sure you're happy.
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Steve Jobs on 13-Inch MacBook Pro's Use of Intel Core 2 Duo Processors
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Please do. AppleCare is excellent, especially if you know what you're doing. My friend is a complete genius when it comes to maneuvering AppleCare. He had a third-party eSata device for his MBP 17". It turns out it was, over time, shocking his computer, so that his computer ran slowly and not at all on the 9600m. He kept taking it into Apple, they thought it was the hard drive, so they replaced it (he also got to keep the old, perfectly good one for free, because he complained about 'sensitive data'). After two more times of this, they finally just gave him a whole new MBP, upgrading both the processor to 3.06 and the ram to 8GB (!) because of the hassle. That part seemed a little too evil to me, but the point is they will make sure you're happy.
Ah, maybe you should read more. I want a 13" computer to replace my current 13" computer. I don't need and have no interest in a big laptop.
Why should I have to use a bigger form to access standard components that could just as easily go into their 13" form? This is a Macbook PRO, correct?
C2D isn't super slow, but it's also the same processor in my 2 year old computer. If I'm about to buy a new computer, I want to know I'm actually advancing in technology with my purchase. And if I don't care to have a mirror screen on my laptop, why can't the 13" have the same option for nonglare as the rest of the Pro laptop line?
Definately glad I waited. I'm going to be buying the 13" base model.
Initially I was thinking about the high end 15" for video editing and music production but I'll hold on off on it for now. I'll upgrade when the time is right, or when I have enough money too. lol. For now though, the 13" will do just fine.
Initially I was thinking about the high end 15" for video editing and music production but I'll hold on off on it for now. I'll upgrade when the time is right, or when I have enough money too. lol. For now though, the 13" will do just fine.
What's with the standard barrage of insults, again?
Doom 3 and Unreal Tournament 2004 are ancient. It's nearly impossible to get a hold of the original copies of the software as well. Why should I base my 2010 purchase on the benchmarks of 5-6 year old software? To make matters worse they're games.
That's much too idealistic.
I read it fine. I simply meant that what youre looking for doesnt exist at apple in that size, so there's no point in complaining about it. You'll have to put up with a 15" or go with another brand. End of story.
Yes it is. This was seen coming for a while. When Jobs says it was a choice between graphics (just how "killer" they are is a matter for debate) and an upgraded cpu, that's probably exactly correct. Because of space limitations on the 13" logic board it was a choice between Arrandale with its integrated graphics only, or a C2D spec bump + a new graphics chip. Either way Apple went, some people were going to howl.
Look at how thick that thing is. Apple is not willing to make the trade-offs required to have both Arrandale and a discrete gpu in the 13" MBP, like expanding the case or removing the optical drive.
Arrandale uses 2 dies, C2D only one.
that has always been the case with apple spec listings. they focus too much on visual stimulation
Then you're not offering any relevant information in response to my posts. Thank you.
I even went as far as to recover this image using Volume Shadow Copy before I remembered that I had attached it before.
That laptop cannot be compared to a mbp as far as fit and finish, the battery life is about 6HOURS less as well, that is A LOT! No backlit keyboard are just some things I noticed while glancing at it...
lol, yea I was really looking forward to buying my first mac. I don't game exclusively on my pc, but I would need a dedicated graphics card to enjoy myself when I do play. I can't justify spending the $ on a MBP just to have the apple logo on top. I'm sure OSX would have been awsome though.
I need advice.
I'm a Hackintosh user, without QE/CI, for about two months, and now that the MBPs have been refreshed, I would like to purchase one for real. I'm looking at using the MBP for iPhone development, occasionally Adobe Photostop/Illustrator, and even editing audios/videos, etc. I'm not a professional in all these areas, so it's more like a hobby.
Tell me, should I go for the 13" or the 15". Obviously, am tight on cash, but what will serve me well?
I'm using an HP EliteBook 8530W to suit my needs in terms of Adobe Photoshop/Illustrator and even editing audios/videos, and with a C2D in it, it's serving well, but I would like to hear from you!
Thank you!
I'm a Hackintosh user, without QE/CI, for about two months, and now that the MBPs have been refreshed, I would like to purchase one for real. I'm looking at using the MBP for iPhone development, occasionally Adobe Photostop/Illustrator, and even editing audios/videos, etc. I'm not a professional in all these areas, so it's more like a hobby.
Tell me, should I go for the 13" or the 15". Obviously, am tight on cash, but what will serve me well?
I'm using an HP EliteBook 8530W to suit my needs in terms of Adobe Photoshop/Illustrator and even editing audios/videos, and with a C2D in it, it's serving well, but I would like to hear from you!
Thank you!
Sorry, didn't realize my posts on your statement (which has been said 50 times before on this forum in different words) were irrelevant...anyway if i were you and i wanted a 13" screen with the things you mentioned, I'd get the Sony Vaio Z. Its probably the closest thing to a 13" macbook pro that you can get with the things you desire on your laptop. and if you want OSX on it you could just make it a hackintosh. Its a bit more expensive, but its your best alternative.
I'm assuming you meant the part where we'll be pleasantly surprised by the performance of the chip, because otherwise that sentence makes no sense.
It's a matter of debate, but I tend to believe in Apple. They usually deliver what they promise, even if it doesn't seem that way at first. My own computer was a minor update, but it performs extremely well and I am more than happy with my purchase, especially because I can only get OS X on Apple's own computers, and I think OS X is by far the strongest product Apple has out there.
As for the benchmarks, they may be old games, but they can still be used to show performance benefits, especially since those games were graphically intensive for their day and age. I have an old game on my Mac called Armagetron Advanced. My 9600m usually gets ~200FPS (obviously not displayable on my display), while my 9400m gets ~100FPS. The graphics are very easy to display, yet they can still be used to show a performance increase. I dunno why Apple doesn't use more modern games, but I can't think of any particular reason for them to do it either. Apple isn't saying "Oh look 60fps in Doom 3 this card is teh beast!!1!!11!1!111oneone." The important part is the comparison; if they showed that Doom 3 ran well on the card, then yeah, that would be questionable, but they're merely using Doom 3 as a tool to compare the power of the two cards.
This guy, he has an answer for everything.
I expected a "That's not big of a deal" or "Yep" from Jobs but he wrote such a "lengthy" reply. Is he afraid that the 13" will not sell well due to overwhelmed criticism of Apple's decision to use a 2-year-old CPU on a brand new machine from 2010?
Sorry, but not plugs everywhere. For people on the move like me, we really need portability, and 1 or 2 more hours of juice are just like gold.
I prefer the 4Gb standart RAM, plus the battery improvement, plus the better graphics, plus the same price over a marginal power gain of an i3.
As for you second paragraph, agree. I was very interested to see if Apple would include the same 13"in the MBP in the as the iPad (IPS). That's what wanted most because I expected a c2d.
As for the first paragraph, I'm trying to be the nice, and if you think you heard the hardest part you are fooling yourselves. It is just the beginning.
I can understand all of what you said except Blu-Ray. It's not the future therefore Jobs won't allow it. In Jobs' future it is downloadable content , which I agree with, but it's not here now.
I guess you don't understand what a rant is, and what a genuine question looks like.
And, given Apple's recent actions of actively blocking iPhone jailbreaking, and their act of removing the Atom processor from its supported processors to prevent Netbook hacks, I'd rather not sink thousands of dollars into a laptop and have to depend on a hack that Apple could override in a single OS software update.
Maybe they should start using Windows for those game benchmarks.
Reality isn't 2004 or 2005 anymore.
Which C2D do you have, how much RAM, and what video card? It would start by comparing your current system with either the 13" or 15" to get an idea of what you can expect for performance. If even the 13" is significantly faster than what you have and you're OK with your current performance, then performance won't be an issue on any of them (although faster is always better).
Then, it becomes a matter of preference - and you might want to spend some time in the AppleStore comparing them in real life - since no one really knows your preferences.
For me, 17" is a good size, 15" is acceptable, and 13" is too small, but you may be different.